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>> ALL RIGHT, FOLKS. IT'S OKAY.

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WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP TO ORDER AUGUST 24TH, 2021 AND THE TIME IS NOW 9:54.

COMMISSIONERS, COULD I GET A MOTION TO SKIP THE INVOCATION PLEDGE FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP?

>> SO MOVE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> OPPOSE NONE. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COURT AND STAFF? SEEING NONE WE'LL MOVE TO CITIZENS COMMENTS.

ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?

>> NO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

>> ALL RIGHT, IN THAT CASE, WE WILL GET INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY.

WE HAVE ONE LITTLE ITEM,

[1. WORKSHOP: To Discuss Proposed Budget FY 2022]

YOU GUYS WERE PASSED OUT THIS HANDOUT.

WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, FOR INSTANCE, ON ELECTED OFFICIAL CLERICAL ANALYSIS.

>> IT'S EVERYBODY.

>> WE'VE GOT, LET ME BACK UP, THIS 27 PAY PERIOD THIS YEAR.

JUST IT'S ANOMALY, OCCURS EVERY SEVEN YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST BUDGET FOR THAT 27 PAY PERIOD.

INITIALLY, WE HAD THAT AMOUNT 5476 ROLLED UP INTO THE SALARIES AND WE DECIDED TO SEPARATE THAT AS A SEPARATE PAYMENT TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SNAP SO THAT NOBODY WAS UNDER THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THEY GOT A BIGGER RAISE THAN THEY REALLY DID.

GOING FORWARD AFTER THIS YEAR WE'LL BE BACK TO THESE NUMBERS UNDER THE CHANGE HERE.

THAT CLEARS THIS MATTER.

DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT?

>> I'M ASSUMING FOR A MOMENT.

>> EXACTLY MY POINT.

[LAUGHTER].

THAT WE DECIDED JUST BACK THAT OUT, SHOW IT AS A SEPARATE ITEM SO THAT IT WAS CLEAR TO EVERYONE.

I KEEP FOR SOME REASON WANT TO SAY FACULTY AND STAFF TODAY TO ELECT OFFICIALS AND STAFF.

THAT'S JUST A ONETIME DEAL AND NO ONE EXPECT TO SEE THAT GOING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONERS? JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD IN CASE YOU GET QUESTIONED ABOUT THAT.

THEN I THINK THE NEXT BIG TICKET ITEM IS TO ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY BRINGING SOME PROJECTS IN.

I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT IN THE INTERIM, I'VE HAD SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CAPCOG AND MARTIN RICHY.

VERY MUCH ENCOURAGING US TO ALLOCATE THAT LAST PORTION TOWARDS BROADBAND INTERNET AND THEN WHENEVER WE NEED FROM THE NEXT TRANCHE OF MONEY TO BROADBAND INTERNET AND THEN USING THE BALANCE THAT'S LEFT, IT WON'T TAKE THE NEXT 4.3 MILLION TO DO THIS, BUT TO ALLOCATE THAT FOR THAT SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH CONNECTED NATIONS AND OTHERS TO IDENTIFY NUMBER 1, WHAT WE DO NEEDS FOR INSTANCE, ON OUR RADIO TOWERS, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED IN 15 YEARS.

WE HAVE TWO TOWERS, IRON MOUNTAIN AND THE ONE IN THE CITY OF LACOMBE THAT NEED NEW MICROWAVES.

WE BOUGHT ONE.

TRYING TO SET UP MEETINGS WITH CAPCOG AND CITY OF LACOMBE AND CITY OF LUMBY TO DISCUSS THEM TAKEN ON A PORTION OF THE FINAL MICROWAVE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND THE TOWER EITHER REPAIRS WITH BRUCE HART AND THEN THEY WOULD RECIPROCATE IN SOME WAY BY GIVING US FREE RENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT.

RATHER, TAKE THIS MONEY AND BUILD OUR OWN TOWER SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY RUNNING THESE TOWERS FROM THESE GUYS AND THAT THE MAINTENANCE GETS DONE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MAINTENANCE HASN'T BEEN DONE ON THOSE TWO TOWERS AND NOW THEY WON'T PASS IN INSPECTION SO THAT WE CAN HANG A NEW MICROWAVE ON.

BRUCE HART HAS TO FIX THOSE OR WE BUILD A NEW TOWER.

THAT'S TWO TOWERS REALLY THAT WE NEED TO BUILD.

WE HAVE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY AND THAT WE COULD BUILD ONE OF THE TOWERS ON.

WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY A SITE TO BUILD THE OTHER TOWER ON SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

DURING THE COURSE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS DISCUSSED ALSO POSSIBLY BUILD ONE IN VALLE HIGH AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR BACKBONE FOR NOT ONLY YOUR EMERGENCY RADIOS, BUT YOUR INTERNET AND THEN SMALLER TOWERS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WERE SET UP BY A LOCKHART BUILDING ISD, WOULD BE PLACED WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE PLACED TO FINISH CLOSE ENOUGH THOSE GAPS.

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THAT WHOLE PROJECT PROBABLY LOOKING AT $3 MILLION.

IT WOULD TAKE UP THE REST OF THIS 1.3 AND A COUPLE OF MILLION OF NEXT YEAR'S PRONTO MONEY THAT'S COMING DOWN.

BUT MARTIN FEELS VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY CHANCE THAT WE HAVE AS A CANNON TO GET THIS DONE AND IF WE COLLABORATIVE BETWEEN CAPCOG AND OF COURSE, THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING MOST OF THE BILL FOR THAT WITH OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONEY.

ONCE ALL THAT IS IN PLACE, THEN YOU'D IDENTIFY PROVIDER OR PROVIDERS TO PUT THEIR EQUIPMENT ON ALL OF THOSE TOWERS AND THERE'S SOME REAL ADVANTAGES TO DOING IT.

OF COURSE, THE FIRST ADVANTAGE, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AS WE CONTINUE TO BE IN THE PANDEMIC AND WHO KNOWS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO REMOTE LEARNING OR NOT, OR IF IT'LL BE GIVEN AS THE OPTION.

BUT WE NEED JUST MAKE SURE THAT CHILDREN OF THIS COUNTY HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO INTERNET AS KIDS IN THE CITIES DO.

SECOND OPTION IS SAFETY.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH OUR RADIOS TRUNCATING ON THE EMERGENCY RADIO TOWERS AND THAT'S GETTING TO BE A PRESSING ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

DURING THE WINTER STORM MY RADIO WAS TRUNCATING, AND MY PHONE WASN'T WORKING SO I HAD TO DRIVE DRIVE OUT AND FIND EVERYBODY THAT I NEEDED TO TALK TO AND IT WAS BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT ON IRON MOUNTAIN IS JUST OLD AND WE HAVE THE REPAIRED AFTER THE STORM.

THAT BEING SAID, THAT BEING MY REQUEST THAT COMMISSIONERS IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU ALL THAT WE ALLOCATE THAT LAST PORTION FOR THAT AND THEN A PORTION OF THE NEXT TRANCHE OF MONEY AND GET THIS THING UNDERWAY AND DONE START TAKING BIDS AND FINDING OUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO GET SOME HARD NUMBERS PUT TOGETHER.

BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS TOO.

I JUST WANTED TO THROW MINE OUT THERE.

>> I'M WITH YOU ON THAT THE TOWER SITUATION BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS AN INSTANCE IN 2018.

>> YEAH.

>> WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.

>> IT'S TIME.

>> WE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE TIME.

>> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT ADVANTAGEOUS REASONS TO SOLVE THAT DILEMMA.

CERTAINLY THE MAINTENANCE IS SUCH THAT IT'S GOING TO KEEP BEING PROBLEMATIC MORE THAN LIKELY IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT.

>> PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS, ALL OF OUR OTHER ILA'S, OUR ILA ON THIS RADIO TOWER WAS DONE 15 YEARS AGO.

I'VE READ THROUGH A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I CAN FIND NOWHERE WHERE IT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WITH REGARDS TO MAINTENANCE.

IT TALKS ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WITH REGARDS TO SO MUCH FOR RADIO AND THAT THING.

IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ALL THIS, I VERY MUCH WANT TO REVIEW OUR ILA [NOISE] SO THAT IT'S CLEAR WHICH ENTITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT MAINTENANCE.

SO 15 YEARS FROM NOW ON WHEN I'M HOPEFULLY RETIRED, WHOEVER'S ON THIS COURT WILL NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

THE MAINTENANCE WILL BE PERFORMED AND THE TOWERS WILL STILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE OR THOUGHTS? [BACKGROUND] WELL, JUST MORE DOWN TOWARDS WHERE IRON MOUNTAIN IS NOW.

IT'S RIGHT THERE TO THE EAST, A LITTLE BIT OF LOOMING JUST ON THE GONZALES COUNTY LINE.

IT WOULD NEED TO BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SOMEWHERE TO GIVE US THAT COVERAGE.

THE WAY THIS THING WILL WORK IS LIKE A CONCENTRIC RING.

IF WE HAD THE FOURTH ONE IN DELHI WOULD EVEN BE MORE REDUNDANT.

BUT IF ONE LEG OF THAT GOES DOWN, THE OTHER TWO LEGS CAN [OVERLAPPING] COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND IT PICKS UP THAT LEG AND THEN IT'LL BACKHAUL TO AUSTIN.

WE'RE USING GATORS CURRENTLY.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE GATORS IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

THE OTHER THING BUILDING THESE OTHER TOWERS WILL DO THOUGH, IS IT WOULD GIVE US OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE ON WHO WE USE FOR OUR EMERGENCY RADIO.

WE COULD GO OUT FOR BID THEN IF WE WANTED TO, BUT THAT WOULD INVOLVE TAKING THE EQUIPMENT OFF FROM ONE VENDOR AND PUTTING THE OTHER VENDORS BACK ON AND TRANSITIONING RADIOS.

THAT'D BE A PROCESS TO SAY THE LEAST, BUT IT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND [NOISE] POSSIBLY HAVE

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OUR MONTHLY RENT ON OUR RADIOS CHEAPER GOING FORWARD.

THAT WOULD BE THE MAJOR ADVANTAGE TO IT.

ALSO, I WAS VISITING WITH A JUDGE FROM GUADALUPE COUNTY WHILE I WAS AT A LITTLE LCRA RETREAT AND THEY SOUGHT OUT AND GOT $17 MILLION OF GRANT MONEY THAT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO THEIR OWN RADIO SYSTEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY TO SET IT UP AND THEN JUST PAY THEIR OWN RADIO RENT.

THEY WON'T HAVE ANY RENTS.

I KNOW YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY THIS, BUT THIS IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION, THINGS SIMILAR TO THE ELECTRIFICATION OF RURAL TEXAS, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE SHIP PASS US BY, AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.

>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH IT?

>> I'M OKAY WITH IT.

>> SO WHAT THAT MEANS DENNIS, AND I'LL JUST TAKE THAT LAST PORTION OF THIS TRANCHE AND ALLOCATE IT TO THAT BROADBAND AND TURN THAT IN SO THAT WE'VE GOT IT ALLOCATED.

WE WERE WORKING ON THAT SUM YESTERDAY AND WE WERE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON THIS LAST BIT OF MONEY.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO THROW IT OPEN COMMISSIONERS.

[INAUDIBLE] I FORGOT TO BRING MY COPY OF THE BUDGET UP HERE.

YOU HAVE A COPY I CAN GO THROUGH? [NOISE] THROW IT OPEN.

WE CAN DISCUSS ANY OTHER THINGS IN THE BUDGET.

DONALD, YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED WHEN WE CORRECTED YOUR SALARY SITUATION.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE LOW INCREASE [OVERLAPPING] SALARIES.

DONALD [BACKGROUND] LOOKING A LITTLE LOW WONDERING IF WE CUT HIS BUDGET, [NOISE] BUT WE GOT THAT CORRECTED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SALARIES IN GENERAL WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS?

>> JUDGE, I KNOW WE'RE ABLE TO SEE BY DEPARTMENT OR FIND THE SALARY AMOUNTS, BUT COULD WE POSSIBLY SEE A LIST BY POSITION?

>> SURE.

>> TWO THINGS. ONE IS FOR NEW POSITIONS BEING CREATED, AND THEN JUST A REAL SHORT REASON, I GUESS, FOR THE CREATION.

THEN THE OTHER IS NON-ELECTED POSITIONS WHERE SALARIES ARE BEING INCREASED BEYOND.

WE'RE DOING 3 PERCENT?

>> 3 PERCENT.

>> 3 PERCENT AND THEN SHORT AND JUSTIFICATION ON THOSE.

>> OKAY, SURE. WE CAN DO THAT.

WE'RE WAY DOWN THE ROAD GIVEN IT'S PREPARED NOW.

HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL REVIEW THAT AND BE READY TO TALK ABOUT IT THE NEXT COURT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

>> JUST BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> I REALIZE THAT.

>> THAT'LL BE REALLY OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET AT THE NEXT COURT, BUT HAPPY TO DO THAT.

HAPPY TO GIVE THAT TO YOU ALL.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

> YEAH. [NOISE] ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I HAVE NO OTHER, NO CONCERNS.

>> NO? MR. [INAUDIBLE]

>>NO.

>> OKAY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. WE'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU.

PLEASE REVIEW IT. IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL STAFF IN CERTAIN AREAS AND SO I SUSPECT WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS.

WITH THOSE EXTRA REQUESTS THEY DID SEND IN JUSTIFICATION WITH THEM.

IF YOU LOOK, IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LOT EASIER JUST TO COME BY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL THOSE AND IN A FORMAT THAT JUST COME BY AND LOOK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR ONE.

>> THAT'D BE FINE YEAH. IF WE CAN JUST GET A LIST OF THEM.

>> YEAH. IT'LL BE OBVIOUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'LL BE THREE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF TWO LIKE LAST YEAR, IN SOME DEPARTMENTS.

YOU CAN LOOK THAT OVER, AND IF YOU NEED TO SEE THE JUSTIFICATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST COME BY THE OFFICE BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM AND IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER IN A PACKET.

YOU COULD LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON OR ADDITIONAL PERSON OR WHATEVER.

IT'LL HAVE THEIR JUSTIFICATIONS, AND THEIR SUBMITTAL THAT WE WENT THROUGH DURING THE WORKSHOPS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT.

>> BUT WE CAN GET A LIST?

>> WELL, WE GAVE YOU A LIST OF THE BREAKDOWN OF EVERYBODY.

>> YEAH.

>> YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU GET THAT IF THERE'S AN EXTRA PERSON.

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>> OKAY.

>> THEN IF YOU'RE [NOISE] QUESTIONING WHY THE EXTRA PERSON, THEN YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE OFFICE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR REQUEST WITHIN THEIR SUBMISSION.

OR JUST CALL AND LET US KNOW I'M QUESTIONING THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON, AND WE CAN GET THAT ONE SUBMITTAL.

>> GOT YOU.

>> RATHER THAN TRY TO PULL THEM ALL TOGETHER.

>> OKAY. [BACKGROUND]

>> WE GET YOU THE LIST OF SALARIES TODAY PROBABLY OR TOMORROW AT THE LATEST.

>> AS HE KEEP MAINTAINS A LIST AND WHAT WE DO BETWEEN OUR OFFICES IS WE RECONCILE THEN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING DOES RECONCILE.

SHE MAINTAINS THE LIST AND THEN WE GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING RECONCILES WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AS FAR AS THE SENSORY ACCOUNTS, THE RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY BUT SHE MAINTAINS THE LIST FOR THE BUDGET OFFICER IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT HE WOULD LIKE THOSE SALARIES TO INCREASES AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

THEN SHE VERIFIES IT AGAINST THE CURRENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES PERSONNEL FILES.

WE WORK WITH THAT OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECONCILIATIONS ARE CORRECT.

>> MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, THEY'VE ASKED FOR THAT LIST, THE BREAKDOWN OF IT RATHER THAN THE SUMMARY AND SO WE'RE SHARING THAT BREAKDOWN WITH THIS DEPARTMENT AS THEY REQUESTED TO. NOT A BIG DEAL.

>> JUDGE HAYDEN ALSO THE JUVENILE PROBATION, THAT WAS ANOTHER BUDGET THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED SO THAT WAS JUST ADD IN. [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S BEING PUT IN.

IT WAS PRETTY BIASED, SAME OLD, EXCEPT FOR THEIR THREE PERCENT RAISE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTION? WE'LL GET THAT LIST.

WE'LL GET THAT BREAKDOWN OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOU SAID HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT AND IN IDENTIFYING QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> I DEFINITELY COMMEND YOU AND ALL OF THOSE STAFF ON GREAT JOB PUTTING ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.

>> I THINK IT'S MOSTLY BARBRA'S GROUP.

THEY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS THING. WE ALL HAVE.

WE LITERALLY SIT DOWN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS DONE BEFORE, BUT AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE SIT DOWN WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND GO THROUGH EVERY LINE IN THE BUDGET AND THEN THEIR JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE EXTRA POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THEIR JUSTIFICATION FOR THE EXTRA MONEY FOR A PARTICULAR STAFF MEMBER IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.

WE DO SAY NO SOMETIMES IN THOSE MEETINGS AND SO IT DOESN'T EVER EVEN MAKE IT THIS FAR OR THEY'LL COME IN AND AS HAPPENED IN PAST YEARS AND THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IF WE DO SAY NO IN THOSE MEETINGS, THEN THEY'LL COME INTO COURT AND PLEAD THEIR CASE IN COURT AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED MUCH THIS YEAR, SO THAT'S GOOD.

I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENED AT ALL SO FAR.

>> JUDGE, IF WE DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND SEE IF THE COURT WANTS TO CHANGE IT OR WHATEVER, WILL WE HAVE AN HOUR WHERE LIKE YOU SAID DOWN WITH THE WIRE.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, I ASSUME, FOR ADOPTION, RIGHT?

>> YEAH. I'LL PUT IT ON THERE FOR ADOPTION, BUT IF WE DECIDE TO MAKE CHANGES, WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE ABLE TO ADOPT UNTIL THE 20, BUT IS IT THE LAST ONE. 24.

>> IT WOULD KICK US BACK THREE WEEKS.

>> ALL I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST OF THIS, IF ANY MODIFICATIONS WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM THEN IF WE COULD MEET IN A WORKSHOP OR SOME [OVERLAPPING] OUR NEXT AGENDA.

>> WE COULD AND WE COULD EVEN HAVE IT WORK.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A REAL PROBLEM BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SO THEY CAN COME IN AT THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP AND TALK TO YOU ALL AND JUSTIFY THEIR POSITION AGAIN.

I THINK THAT IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> I THINK IT'S A GOOD BUDGET BECAUSE NOT ONE EMPLOYEE HAS CALLED ME TO THE SIDE AND COMPLAIN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S GOOD AND I THINK THAT, AS A CORE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY GENEROUS WITH THE RAISES LAST COUPLE YEARS AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE AND STILL BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

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THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT WE DID NOT ALLOCATE A LITTLE MORE MONEY TOO BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SEE THEIR JUSTIFICATION, BUT I HOPE YOU AGREE THAT THEY'RE WELL-WORTH IT.

WHAT WE'VE TRIED VERY HARD TO DO IS THOSE PEOPLE HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB PRIOR TO.

WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM A RAISE AND THEN HOPE THEY DID WHAT THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT'S EXEMPLARY, OR ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY.

SOMEONE THAT NOBODY'S INDISPENSABLE WE ALL ARE, BUT SOMEBODY WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO REPLACE, SHOULD WE LOSE THEM AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU OUT EVENTUALLY, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTY GO TO MERIT BASED PACES AND REVIEWS IN OTHER PLACES THAT I'VE WORKED WHERE YOU HAVE A SET GOALS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET, YOU HAVE A SIX MONTH REVIEW, SEE HOW WE'RE DOING, AND THEN YOU GET TO THE END OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

YOU HAVE FINAL REVIEW SO THAT IT COMES AS NO SURPRISE TO SOMEONE THAT THEY GOT NO RAISE, A MINIMAL RAISE, OR A BIG RAISE DEPENDING ON THEIR PERFORMANCE.

>> I'VE DONE THAT FOR MANY YEARS IN VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND I SEE THE ADVANTAGES TO IT.

ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO REWARD GOOD EMPLOYEES.

>> IT'S PAINFUL.

>> IT'S PAINFUL AND JOE, YOU TALK ABOUT GETTING CALLS FROM EMPLOYEES.

[LAUGHTER].

>> YOU'LL BE OVERLOADED.

>> IT'S INCREDIBLY PAINFUL AND MANAGERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS HATE IT.

>> MANAGERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS GOOD AT VARIOUS LEVELS, SOME TAKE IT SERIOUS.

>> YEAH. SOME DON'T AND SO EXACTLY RIGHT.

THAT IS FRAUGHT WITH PERIL ON THAT SIDE TOO BUT FOR ME IT'S JUST I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THE SAME THING NO MATTER HOW WELL OR HOW POORLY YOU PERFORM [OVERLAPPING] AND PRETTY SOON EVERYBODY PERFORMING POORLY AND THERE'S A HANDFUL THERE CARRYING THE BURDEN FOR THE REST.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH AND THE THING THAT I'VE ALWAYS LIKED ABOUT IT IS [INAUDIBLE] IS NO SURPRISE.

IF YOU DID A SIX-MONTH REVIEW AND NO GOALS WERE MET AND THEN YOU GET TO THE END AND NO GOALS WERE MET.

>> YOU HAVE TO BE HONEST DISAGREEMENTS ON WHETHER GOALS WERE MET.

>> EXACTLY RIGHT AND TYPICALLY ARE SOMETIMES AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THE MANAGER WHO USUALLY WINS THOSE ARGUMENTS.

ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT BASE YEAR FOR SURE.

WAY TOO LATE FOR THAT BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK THEM OVER.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO QUESTION, LET US KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD COME IN AND JUSTIFY TO YOU GUYS THEIR REASON FOR THAT.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 10:17.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BE ADJOURNED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> THOSE NONE. MOTION CARRIES.

[BACKGROUND]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.