[00:00:01] >> [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK. [1. WORKSHOP: To discuss current and future County budgetary needs in anticipation of the upcoming FY 2023 budgeting process.] WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT BUDGET WORKSHOP TO ORDER ON THE 26TH DAY OF APRIL 2022, AT 11:45 A.M. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SKIP THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND? >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON 2ND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THEN MOTION CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS COMMISSIONERS? >> NO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS. >> NO CITIZENS COMMENTS. >> OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM ONE, WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS CURRENT AND FUTURE COUNTY BUDGET NEEDS AND ANTICIPATION OF UPCOMING FY 2023 BUDGETING PROCESS. COMMISSIONERS, WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST SESSION, TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE JUST WENT AROUND THE HORN ONE AT A TIME, GAVE OUR PRIORITIES AND IF SOME OF THEM COALESCED AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THE TOP ONES. GO AHEAD. >> HOW THE JOY OF BEING ONE [LAUGHTER]. MY PRIMARY PRIORITY THAT I'VE NOTICED AND I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DUPLICATED, IS SAYING WHAT WE CAN CHANGE OR COME UP WITH ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AS FAR AS OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, HOW WE HANDLE THAT GOING FORWARD, ANYTHING FROM THE CURRENT STATUS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I THINK NEEDS SOME CHANGES AND HOW THAT LOOKS GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE DEALING WITH WHAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY JUST BE EVER QUICKENING PACE [OVERLAPPING] SO TO SPEAK. THAT'S FIRST PRIORITY. ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT I HAVE OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TOUCHED ON THIS IN SEVERAL MEETINGS BEFORE, BUT FURTHER COMMITMENT INTO UNIT ROAD TO MAYBE SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ON MAYBE ACCELERATING SIMILAR PAVING SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO GET THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD SO TO SPEAK. JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THAT NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS HERE AS OF LATE AND I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST SPEND SOME TIME FOCUSING ON THAT. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S MY BIG TWO, AND I'LL PASS ON FROM THERE. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER SILVIA. >> THANKS. ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES FOR THIS COUNTY AND HAS BEEN FOR THE THREE AND HALF YEARS I'VE SET UP HERE, AND I'VE SAID IT OVER AND OVER, I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD ENTERTAIN LOOKING FOR A HIRED ENGINEER BECAUSE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT STATUS WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY. WE ARE PUTTING OUT A LOT OF MONEY TO DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO PAY FOR THINGS WE DO IN DEVELOPMENT THAT AN ENGINEER COULD COVER. AN ENGINEER COULD ALSO ASSIST IN THE ROAD UNIT, AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WESS MORE IN THAN THAT WE PUT SOME FOCUS IN OUR ROADS AND GET THEM BETTER. BUT I THINK AN ENGINEER WOULD BE AN ALL AROUND PERSON TO HELP ASSIST IN WHAT WE NEED. I HAVE 50 PERCENT OF THIS COUNTY, THE SOUTHERN PART AND I HAVE NEVER ONCE ASKED EWEAC TO HELP ME WITH ANYTHING WITH TEXT DOT. I'VE DONE IT ALL MYSELF. I CALL THEM, I TALKED TO THEM, AND THEY'VE ADDRESSED EVERY ISSUE THAT I'VE CALLED. I KNOW THAT HE'S PROBABLY HELPED A LOT IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON UP THERE. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S NOT BEEN. BUT IF WE HAD A HIRED ENGINEER, THEN THAT WOULD ALSO TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT BACK INTO AN ENGINEER'S BUDGET. I FEEL THAT'S MY VERY TOP NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS THIS COUNTY NEEDS AN ENGINEER. MY SECOND ONE IS IN THE INNER DEVELOPMENT WITH CASEY, I FEEL THAT IN HER DEPARTMENT SHE WEARS ABOUT SIX HATS AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY DID NOT KNOW THE HAT SHE WEARS. I THINK SHE NEEDS MORE STAFF BECAUSE SHE HAS AN OVERLOAD. SHE'S PROBABLY GOING TO NEED A PLACE BIGGER TO GO TO TO PUT WHAT SHE HAS. OUR GROWTH IS HERE, WE'RE SEEING IT IN IT IS NOT SLOWING DOWN FOLKS, IT'S COMMON. THAT'S WHERE MY TOP THREE PRIORITY, WOULD BE AN ENGINEER FOR THE COUNTY, HELP FOR CASEY MORE THAN ONCE SHE'S ALLOTTED SO SHE CAN PUT DUTIES OUT TO THOSE, AND ALSO OUR ROAD UNIT [00:05:02] AND MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE GET OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE PROPOSED TO US, THAT WE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, TAKE OUR TIME, WE READ IT, AND UNDERSTAND IT, AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT CORRECTLY. >> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER TEREOS. >> I FULLY AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP. NEEDS A LOT OF ATTENTION THIS YEAR. I'VE ALWAYS AGREED ABOUT HAVING AN ENGINEER ON STAFF. WE TRIED THAT BACK IN 2016, BUT I THINK PART OF THE FAILURE OF THAT WAS THE PERSONNEL WE HIRED AND THEN THE CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION AS TO THE DUTIES AND OVERSIGHT OF THAT PERSON. NOW ALL OF THE STAFF NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOING IN SO THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION AS TO WHAT THAT PERSON DOES AND DOESN'T DO. WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THAT, SO THAT THE CONFLICTS THAT HAPPENED IN 2017 DON'T START RE-ARISING. >> OKAY. >> I FULLY AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE'VE MADE HUGE STRIDES ON GETTING ROADS PAVED AND GETTING THEM IN BETTER CONDITION IN THE COUNTY AND CREDIT TO DONALD AND HIS STAFF ON THAT. I'D LIKE TO PUT MORE RESOURCES TO THAT IF POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF OUR CORE DUTIES AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I'D LIKE TO SEE US WORK WITH MIKE AND HIS FOLKS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ON SOME OF THE NOISE AND NUISANCE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE COUNTY AND WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH MIKE IF WE NEED TO FIND ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS TO HELP IN THAT AREA. I'D LIKE THAT TO BE ON THE RADAR. THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL TASK FORCE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL DEPARTMENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAS STARTED. IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN ROOTING FOR THE SUCCESS OF THAT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AS TO WHAT IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO IMPROVE OR ALLOCATE TOWARD THAT TO HELP THEM DO THEIR JOB. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S MY MAIN FOUR. >> OKAY. ON THAT LAST NOTE, I SPOKE TO FRED YESTERDAY AND HE WANTS TO HAVE A SIT DOWN AND WE MAY ASK HIM TO COME IN HERE TOO, ALONG WITH ME AND MR. LUNA. THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S WORKED, WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN, AND REFINE HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT PART IN THAT DEPARTMENT. I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THEM, FOR INSTANCE, AND MICHAEL, THEY ISSUE A WARRANT FOR AN ARREST, BUT THEN THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR TRANSPORT [LAUGHTER]. THEY'VE GOT A COORDINATE WITH ISO, "WE NEED YOU TO GO PICK SOMEBODY UP." THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND THAT'S A FRUSTRATION FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND SO THAT MAYBE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. ACTUALLY GIVING THEM A WAY TO GO AND SERVE THEIR WARRANT WHEN THEY ARREST THAT PERSON AND TAKE HIM TO THE JAIL. THEY DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. MIKE'S GUYS, AS WE ALL KNOW ARE SUPER BUSY AND SO THOSE THINGS HAPPEN WHEN THEY HAPPEN AND SO THEY HAVE TO COORDINATE. I'M GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY AND GIVE THIS GUY, I NEED YOU TO HAVE A UNIT ON STANDBY. THAT'S NOT AN EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THAT AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO YOUR DEPARTMENT. THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO. >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> YES, SIR. [NOISE] I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE STONE AGES. [LAUGHTER] THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS A CELL PHONE. TECHNOLOGY WAS FAR AWAY FROM US WE DID EVERYTHING MOSTLY BY A PENCIL AND PAPER BUT ROADS IS CONSTANT. WHEN I GOT HERE, WE WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE ROADS AND ALL THESE 30-SOMETHING YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE ROADS, ROADS, THEY'RE CALLING ME ABOUT THE ROADS THIS, THE ROAD THIS. IT DIDN'T DO ME NO GOOD TO TELL THEM WE GOT A ROAD ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES DON'T DO THIS ANYMORE. BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER THEY KEPT ON DOING IT. [NOISE] I THINK THE OTHER TWO, [00:10:07] THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT I LIKED EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT. I OWE OSCAR VOGEL, I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO HIM. BECAUSE, AND I'VE BEEN ON A LOT OF GOOD COURTS AND WHEN YOU GUYS GOT ELECTED, HE SAID, "JOE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE YOU HAVE COMING TO THAT COURT." I SAID, "OH, MAN, I'VE SEEN ALL KIND OF INTELLIGENCE." BUT I NEED TO CALL OSCAR TO TELL HIM HE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU'RE ALL ARE SO WELL EDUCATED, SO WELL-VERSED IN ALL OF THIS STUFF. I'M JUST TELLING YOU ALL ON IT'S TRUE, I'M RIDING YOU GUYS. IT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. IT EVADES ME, WE DIDN'T GROW UP WITH IT. THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> CARRY ME ALONG WITH YOU. >> THAT WAS NICE. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET US TO BELIEVE IN OUR OWN PRESS CLIPPINGS. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU THINK WE COULD GET THEM TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING THOUGH. I KNOW IT'S OFF THE WORKSHOP, BUT [INAUDIBLE]. >> YEAH, I THINK THEY JUST DID HERE. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE GET AN UPDATE FROM THEM. >> HI, DEB. WHEN MIKE BEDNAR WAS HERE, HE WOULD TURN IN A MONTHLY REPORT, SO MAYBE IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YEAH. >> SIMILAR. >> THEY DID AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF CASES EVERY MONTH. WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS THEY CLOSE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF CASES. IT'S NOT JUST OPEN A CASE AND FORGET ABOUT IT, GO HANG A RED TAG ON THE GATE, THOSE DAYS ARE GONE. >> IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION NEIL HAS MENTIONED BEFORE THAT HE'S ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ALL TO TALK. >> YES. WE JUST NEED [LAUGHTER] TO CALL HIM ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SACK LUNCH THAT DAY. [LAUGHTER] MY PRIORITIES ARE VERY SIMILAR. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVING AN ENGINEER OR AT THE VERY LEAST A PLANNER TO HELP CASEY. [LAUGHTER] I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT. I KNOW THAT I GET EMAILS AND TEXTS FROM HER AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING AND EMAILS AND TEXTS FROM HER LATE INTO THE NIGHT A LOT. I KNOW THE KIND OF HOURS THAT SHE'S PUTTING IN AND HAS BEEN PUTTING IN AND THAT CAN'T GO ON FOREVER, SHE NEEDS TO HAVE SOME QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, IS THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT DEPARTMENT AND WORK WITH CASEY AND EITHER GET AN ENGINEER OR A PLANNER, EITHER ONE IS FINE WITH ME. IF WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T AFFORD AN ENGINEER THEN SURELY WE CAN AFFORD A PLANNER. THOUGH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD. UNIT ROAD IS A BIG ONE FOR ME THIS YEAR. WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE SO AND WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO THERE. NO DOUBT. MIKE AND I HAVE TALKED SOME ALREADY. BUT UNIT ROADS, WE HAVE GOT TO START REALLY GETTING FOCUSED ON GETTING OUR ROADS IN SHAPE AND GETTING THEM PAID. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH DONALD THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT HE NEEDS TO GET THAT DONE. ROADS ARE A PRIORITY THIS YEAR FOR ME AS WELL. THOSE ARE PROBABLY MY TWO BIGGEST AND YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE GREAT AND WE'LL ADDRESS THEM ALL AS WE GO FORWARD. BUT THIS WILL HELP ME ONCE WE BEGIN TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE MEETINGS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT TO GET FOCUSED ON WHERE YOUR ALL PRIORITIES ARE AND PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A BUDGET. THEN AS WE BRING THEM BACK TO YOU DURING WORKSHOPS, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL WEIGH IN AND SAY THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH OR WHERE WE NEED TO DO MORE OR MAYBE YOU WENT TOO FAR, [LAUGHTER] WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, [NOISE] AND GOING FORWARD. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO? >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT TO ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE STAFF THEY HAVE, PUT IT DOWN REALLY WELL AS TO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND JUSTIFY IT SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT SO WE DON'T COME UP WITH THE ISSUE OF, [00:15:04] "I FORGOT BUT," THAT WAY WE WON'T RUN INTO SOME OF THE LITTLE ISSUES WE DO ABOUT HELPING GET IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. THE COST OF LIVING IS GOING UP, FOLKS, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO BACK DOWN, FROM THE GROCERIES TO THE GAS BILLS AND WE'RE SEEING THAT ON THE COUNTY SIDE. OUR GAS BILLS FOR THE ROAD UNIT ARE EXPENSIVE BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT, WE HAVE TO USE IT. WE REALLY WILL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT NEED IN YOUR DEPARTMENTS? ARE YOU GOING TO NEED ANOTHER ROAD UNIT, [INAUDIBLE] HELP YOU WITH ALL THE EXTRA ROADS WE GOT COMING IN? THE SHERIFF GOING TO NEED SOME MORE DEPUTIES BECAUSE OF THE CRIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION GROWTH. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF POPULATION GROWTH AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CRIME, WE'RE SEEING A LOT THAN WE [NOISE] HEAR ON THE NEWS. I JUST WANT ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEIR STAFF BELOW THEM OR ANYBODY THAT HAS STAFF BELOW THEM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT. GIVE US A REALLY GOOD DESCRIPTION AS TO WHY? JUSTIFY WHY YOU FEEL THAT'S NECESSARY SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN FIND THAT MONEY. >> SARAH, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> YEAH. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. >> JUDGE, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO US AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO INVITE EACH OF YOU TO COME OUT AND SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR, 14, 16 MONTHS, TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH YOUR HELP. I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO COME OUT, OBVIOUSLY, ONE OR TWO AT A TIME BEFORE THE BUDGET CYCLE STARTS. THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT AS I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT PRETTY MINIMAL BECAUSE I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THE UNIT ROAD. BUT I DO HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU ALL ABOUT. I'LL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE? GO ON AND TALK. [LAUGHTER] >> I JUST WANT TO ADD ON, I KNOW COMMISSIONER SHELTON EMPHASIZED ON IT. BUT AS THE COUNTY IS GROWING AND WE'RE GETTING ALL THAT, PEOPLE MOVING IN FROM CALIFORNIA, AUSTIN, SAN MARCOS, CAROL BERMUDA IT'S GROWING HERE, BUT WE ALSO NEED THE STAFF TO GROW, AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOWHERE TO HOUSE ANYBODY. WE'RE SERIOUSLY RUNNING OUT. I MEAN, POOR MILES, HE'S IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUILDING EVERY TIME I SEE HIM. BUT JUST FOR SOME INFRASTRUCTURE TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT COMES UP FOR LEASE SALE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IF WE WANT TO CONSIDER BUILDING ANYWHERE ANY PROPERTY SO. >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHERIFF AND I DISCUSSED A LITTLE YESTERDAY. THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUILDING OUT IN PRECINCT FALL. IT'S THE COLONIAL BUILDING IN THE VERY PRELIMINARY PHASES, BUT IF THAT WERE AVAILABLE, THAT CAN HOUSE PRECINCT FOR COSTCO. THAT COULD BE YOUR SATELLITE OFFICE. THAT CAN HOUSE THE PRECINCT FOR JP, WHICH LOOK PRETTY MUCH EMPTY OUT A WHOLE BUILDING FOR US HERE IN POUND FOR MORE STAFF. WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING. THERE'S ANOTHER POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY WHERE PRECINCT 3 IS THAT PROPERTY MAY BE FOR SALE AND MAYBE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY ENTERTAINS JUST PURCHASING BECAUSE IT'S THREE ACRES AND IT'S JUST GOT ONE SMALL BUILDING ON IT SO THAT COULD GIVE US SOME EXPANSION ROOM AS WELL. THE TAXPAYERS IS SEEN AND HEARD, ARE NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T BLAME THEM ON TAXPAYER TO GET YOUR TAX BILL AND WHEN WE PICK YOURSELF BACK UP OFF THE FLOOR. YOU GO AND DEAL WITH IT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO WORK WITH AND WE HAD LAST YEAR. I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE MORE DEMANDS ON THAT EXTRA MONEY THEN [LAUGHTER] WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY AS USUAL. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE WISE WITH IT, THEN WE CAN GET THE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE, ACCOMPLISHED AND DO A LOT, DO A BETTER JOB OF SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO SERVE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT. SO WITH THAT, I'M DONE. I'M OFF MY SOAPBOX. HAS ANYBODY ELSE [LAUGHTER] GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? >> NO, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING. I DO THINK DANNY'S CORRECT THE COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF, [00:20:04] NOT NECESSARILY THE OUT OF THE GENERAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BECOME A PRIORITY AS STAFFING COMMITMENTS GROW AND HOW WE HOUSE THEM, WHERE WE HOUSE THEM AND THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES ARE GOING TO COME TO THE FOREFRONT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN WE EVEN ANTICIPATE, BUT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST ON THE RADAR, I WOULD SAY ALL THE TIME. >> ONE THING BEAR IN MIND, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS AND CEOS OR A MONOMIAL FOR BUILDINGS. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BUILD, IT'S GOT TO COME WITH PROBABLY WITH ANOTHER BIG WORD. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT EVEN A SMALL OFFICE SPACE GOING TO BE EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. WE LUCKILY HAVE THE PROPERTY THAT WE CAN PUT A SMALL OFFICE SPACE ON THE JUDICIAL STANDARD, BUT YOU'D PROBABLY BE I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO DO IT. ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING, GOING OUT FOR BID, GETTING THE BID, GETTING A BILL. YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY EASILY $300 A SQUARE FOOT OR MORE. THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A BOND AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH APPETITE AREAS RIGHT NOW AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE VOTING FOR THAT BOND TO PAY FOR A BOND. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. JUST BEAR THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING IT. >> JUST TO EMPHASIZE OR TAIL END ON THAT. IT IS A TRICKLE EFFECT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE IF WE DO A LOT FOR THOSE BONDS, WE DO HAVE A BOND RATING. IT'S UP TO SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY TAKE THEIR DUTIES, THEIR STATUTORY DUTY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LACKING ON EFFECTS THAT BOND RATING. ANYTHING FROM GRANT MANAGEMENT, MY OFFICE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THAT ALL PLAYS A BIG PART ON WHETHER WE GET THOSE BONDS OR NOT. >> YEAH, AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP OUR WRITING. I MEAN, THIS THING THAT WE ARE JUST ABLE TO JOHNSON CONTROL, THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WIND UP SAVING US MONEY OVER THE LONG HAUL. WE WERE ABLE TO GET A REALLY LOW INTEREST RATE BECAUSE WE HAD A GOOD BOND RATING AND WE JUST, BY PURE DUMB LUCK HIT THE MARKET AT THE PERFECT TIME AND GOT TO LESS THAN TWO PERCENT, ENTER SPRAY ON THAT. WE'RE IN THE WORLD OF MORTGAGE INTEREST IS OVER FIVE PERCENT NOW THE DAYS OF BRIEFERS THAT ARE GONE. JUST WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, WHEN WE'RE FACTORING INTO WHETHER WE'RE IN HERE EVERY BUDGET TALKS. JUST REMEMBER THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOLDING, SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE ONEROUS THAN IT WOULD BE TO MAYBE FIND SOMETHING AND BUY IT. WE MIGHT NOT BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO DO THAT. JUST BE THINKING IN THOSE TERMS IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 2, MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION WAGER. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE. HERE THEN MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 12:08. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.