Jun 14, 2022 Commissioners Court

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS CALL, THIS MEETING TO ORDER TUESDAY, 14TH DAY OF JUNE 20, 22 AT 9 A.M..

COMMISSIONER ROLAND, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION, PLEASE? YES. YES, SIR.

OUR FATHER.

WHICH ART IN HEAVEN? THE FATHER OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

JESUS THE CHRIST FATHER IS ONCE AGAIN AT THIS WEEKEND.

HUMBLE SERVANT OF YOURS IS STANDING HERE WITH MY MIND STEAD ON YOU A LOT.

I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US ALL.

LORD, I PRAY FOR RAIN RIGHT NOW YOU REALLY NEED RAIN IS JUST SO DRY.

EVERY TIME I WATCH TV I TURN ON THE NEWS TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO RAIN.

BUT LORD, I KNOW THAT YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO IS FOR GOOD.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US RAIN.

THESE IN OUR BLESSING.

I PRAY IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME.

AMEN. AMEN TO THE LIFE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE THIS FLAG.

I PRAY WITH YOU TO SEE THE TEXAS ONE SAY UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.

NOW IT'S LIKE YAWNING.

IT'S CONTAGIOUS.

[Announcements]

DO YOU HAVE I'M CERTAIN WE HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO HOPE OR TO SAY THAT WAS GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AT CHISHOLM TRAIL ROUNDUP THIS PAST WEEKEND.

AND LOCKHART, I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD TIME, HAD A HAD A PRETTY SAFE WEEKEND.

AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER AND EVERYBODY ENJOYED THEMSELVES IN A IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, OBVIOUSLY, THE THUMP IS IN TWO WEEKS.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL OF YOU OUT THERE AT THEIR FESTIVAL, TOO.

AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY, MR. SHELTON. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THE CHISHOLM TRAIL. ROUND UP.

IT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF VOLUNTEER HOURS TO GET THAT DONE.

AND IT'S A BIG TASK.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE DISPOSAL OF THE IN-SERVICE UNSERVICEABLE FLAG CEREMONY WILL BE HELD AT THE AMERICAN LEGION TONIGHT AT 7:00 PM.

THE BOY SCOUTS DOES THIS, AND IT IS JUST A FANTASTIC, VERY TOUCHING EVENT, AS WELL AS THE MCMAHON COMMUNITY WILL BE HAVING THEIR JULY 4TH CELEBRATION ON JULY 2ND.

ON SATURDAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARADE STARTING AT 5:00 PM AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIREWORKS DISPLAY.

IT IS A FABULOUS FIREWORKS DISPLAY AND THERE'LL BE FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE.

AND IT'S JUST TO HELP THE MCMAHON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER RAISE FUNDS. AND A LOT OF THIS IS DONATED BY WIZARD HALL.

SO THEY'RE A VERY BIG CONTRIBUTOR TO HELPING THAT COMMUNITY STAY ALIVE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TERRIO ECHOED THE THANKS FOR THE VOLUNTEERS AND FOLKS THAT PUT ON THE SHOW. THE CELEBRATION IS GREAT.

WE KEEP THEM OFF. THE MAIN CARD COMMITS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY, GREAT.

MR. ROWAN? YES? I'M BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ATTENDED MY 33RD CHILDREN TRIAL.

AND I JUST THANK GOD FOR ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS HE STORED UPON US ON ME.

AND ALSO, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW, LIKE, AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, LIKE, WE'RE HAVING JUNETEENTH. THIS IS A VERY, VERY BUSY MONTH IN JUNE.

BUT WHEN I WAS LITTLE, JUST RIGHT AFTER JUNETEENTH, WE'D GO TO SINTON, TEXAS, TO PULL COTTON. SO I JUST SOMETIMES I JUST SIT UP AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE MANY THINGS THAT I HAD TO DO WHEN WE WERE YOUNG.

BUT THROUGH IT ALL, GOD BROUGHT US THROUGH IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO ALL THE CONGRATULATIONS FOR KTR.

WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, I'VE GOT A BROKEN FOOT AND MY WIFE HAD FOOT SURGERY AND UNTIL LAST WEEK WAS NOT ABLE TO PUT ANY PRESSURE ON HER FOOT.

SO AND SHE'S NOW STILL GETTING AROUND WITH CRUTCHES.

BUT FROM WHAT I COULD TELL, IT LOOKED VERY SUCCESSFUL AND ONE OF THE SPECIALLY THANKED VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE THERE.

THAT CAN SOMETIMES BE KIND OF A THANKLESS JOB AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH WORK IT

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AND AND THOSE FOLKS ARE OUT THERE DOING THAT OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART AND FOR NO OTHER REASON. SO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL THOSE PEOPLE, TOO.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? HELLO. HELLO.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY ON KRISTINA'S BEHALF THAT CYBERSECURITY TRAINING IS DUE. WE HAVE TO FINISH BY AUGUST THE 31ST.

WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 90% COMPLIANCE.

FAILURE TO DO SO WILL TAKE WILL AFFECT OUR GRANT STATUS AND ABILITY TO TO GET GRANTS OR TO POSSIBLY PAY SOME MONEY BACK.

SO PLEASE, EVERYBODY, DEPARTMENT HEADS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE HAVE FINISHED THE CYBERSECURITY TRAINING.

SO IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY NEED TO GIVE US A CALL.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING.

JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AT LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING YOU ALL TABLE TAKING ACTION ON A GRANT REQUEST, DONATION REQUEST FROM THE CARTES PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF SEEING IF THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOUNDATION COULD TAKE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT GRANT.

LAST THURSDAY, THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOUNDATION BOARD MET AND WE AMENDED OUR BYLAWS TO OPEN UP THE ELIGIBILITY FOR GRANTS TO MORE THAN JUST 500 183 ORGANIZATIONS. WE OPENED IT UP TO INCLUDE SEE FOUR, SIX, EIGHT, TEN, 12 AND 19 TAX GROUPS AS WELL AS STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT BODIES.

SO OUR FOUNDATION IS NOW ELIGIBLE TO CONSIDER FUNDING THE CARTES DONATION REQUEST THAT YOU RECEIVE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST AT YOUR NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING, YOU PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA THAT ITEM AND THAT YOU DENY FUNDING IT AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT THROUGH THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOUNDATION.

ALSO, I WANT TO REPORT TO YOU ABOUT OUR TIRE ONLY COLLECTION EVENT THAT WE CONDUCTED IN MAXWELL THIS LAST SATURDAY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DELAY IN GETTING OUR CONTRACTS APPROVED FROM THE TCU.

WE FINALLY GOT THOSE LIKE EIGHT DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT WAS TO HAPPEN.

A LOT OF LOGISTICAL WORK HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

WE HAD TO LINE UP WORKER VOLUNTEERS.

WE HAD TO CONTRACT WITH RELIANT TIRE DISPOSAL COMPANY OUT OF BURN IT TO GET FOUR SEMI-TRUCK TRAILERS DELIVERED.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BEAR WITH ME, BECAUSE IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.

AND I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME SOME FOLKS FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.

KEEP IN MIND, LAST SATURDAY, IT WAS 105 DEGREES OUTSIDE AT THE TOWER EVENT.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE FOLLOWING GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

THE CALDWELL COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT HAD FIVE VOLUNTEERS THERE NEAL, ALBERTO, TONI, JAMES AND LISA.

SOME OF THEM ARE STATIONED OVER HERE.

THEY DON'T LOOK TOO HAGGARD FOR THE DAY THAT WE PUT IN OUT THERE.

UNIT ROAD PROVIDED MIKE CHEATHAM AND A LOADER AND A BUCKET TO HELP LOAD UP LOAD THE TIRES. HAYS COUNTY PROVIDED 11 VOLUNTEERS AND THAT WAS COORDINATED BY THE HAYS COUNTY GRANTS DEPARTMENT. LINDSEY MCALOON AND AND SIMON CAPRI.

PEGASUS SCHOOLS SENT 14 VOLUNTEER WORKERS.

THEY SENT A CREW OF SIX.

AND BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND THAT WE HAD, THEY CALL IT A SECOND CREW IN AND HAD 14 WORKERS.

ALSO, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE PROVIDED FANS AND A GENERATOR SO THAT WE COULD PUT THOSE FANS INSIDE THOSE TRACTOR TRAILER RIGS TO MAKE IT SOMEWHAT BEARABLE TO LOAD TIRES. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT ALL FOUR TRACTOR TRAILERS WERE FILLED BY 2 P.M.

AND WE COLLECTED MORE THAN 2000 TIRES SATURDAY.

THE VALUE OF THAT, IN MY EYES, IS EVERY TIRE WE COLLECTED IS ONE LAST TIRE THAT'S GOING TO END UP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR IN A CREEK BED OR THE RIVER.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR RESIDENTS IN HAYS AND CALDWELL COUNTY.

WE HAD 116 INDIVIDUAL DONORS FROM CALDWELL COUNTY 19 FROM HAYS COUNTY.

AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, WE HAD ONE YOUNG MAN DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM VIEW TO TURN IN ONE TIRE, HAD IT IN HIS BACK SEAT OF HIS CAR, BUT HE WAS JUST ECOLOGICALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY MINDED AND SAID, I JUST WANTED TO GET RID OF MY TIRE IN A SAFE AND A SAFE MANNER. BUT WE COLLECTED MORE THAN 2000 TIRES.

RELIANT TIRE WILL NOTIFY US A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WITH THE EXACT COUNT, BUT IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY TO COLLECT THAT MANY TIRES.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I JUST RECOGNIZED.

AND AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT THIS TO YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ANY QUESTIONS ON CONSENT IF NOT FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

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ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, I WAS HERE, AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL SKIP OVER THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANOTHER 5 MINUTES AND GO ON TO THE PRESENTATION BY VIEWPOINT ENGINEERING.

HOW LONG IS THIS PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN? IS IT 20 MINUTES? WE MAY. DO YOU MIND WAITING? BECAUSE WE GOT TO START THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 915.

I APOLOGIZE. I WAS HOPING WE WOULD WE WOULD GOBBLE UP THAT FIRST 15 MINUTES THAT WE HAVE IT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO BURN BAN DISCUSSION ACTION REGARDING BURN BAN ITEM

[8. Discussion/Action regarding the burn ban.]

THEY ARE AT TRAINING, HOWEVER CBEEBIES AND THE HIGH 600 SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LEAVE THE BURN BAN ON.

WE ENACTED AN EMERGENCY BURN BAN LAST WEEK BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO LEAVE THE BURN BAN ON.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO LEAVE THE BURN BAN ON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

I OPPOSE HEARING NON MOTION CARRIES ITEM NINE DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER ADOPTING

[9. Discussion/Action to consider adopting an order permitting the sale of fireworks during the 41h of July fireworks period. (Part 1 of 2)]

THIS IS THE USUAL STICKS AND FINS RESOLUTION.

COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T CHASE.

DO I NEED TO READ THAT? IT'S THE SAME RESOLUTION WE'VE READ EVERY HOLIDAY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THE ONLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT IS FOR THE JULY 4TH AND NOT MEMORIAL DAY OR ANY OF THE OTHER HOLIDAYS. OKAY.

SO IT'S RESOLUTION FOR JULY 4TH.

STICKS AND FANS ONLY JUDGE WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW.

SHOULD SHOULD WE WE WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO CONSIDER NO FIREWORKS AT LEAST NEXT MEETING REVISIT IT, MAYBE.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE GOT A DEADLINE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT NOW.

SO THE ORDER DOES ALLOW FOR WELL, THE ORDER HINGES ON THE DECLARATION OF A BURN BAN.

IF A BURN BAN IS ENACTED, THEN THE ORDER JUST DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT.

AND IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDER ITSELF.

BUT WE SO THE ORDER NOW IS FOR STICKS AND FINS, THOUGH.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER TERRIO SUGGESTION IS NO FIREWORKS.

OH, I'M SORRY. NO, NO FIREWORKS, PERIOD.

OR NO STICKS? I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. AT LEAST IF IT GETS HARD AND YEAH, IT GETS HARD IF YOU GET PAST STICKS AND PANS, IT'S NOT THAT THE REST OF THEM EITHER.

EITHER SAY, YOU KNOW, FIREWORKS OR STICKS AND FINS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

I AGREE.

SO THEY SENT THEY SENT SOMETHING OVER TO ME JUST JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

AND IT WAS THE VDI INDEXES FOR THE LAST PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS.

AND THE THE THING WE'VE ALWAYS DONE STEAKS AND FINS ON THESE DRY YEARS.

HOWEVER, THIS YEAR IT'S IT'S AT 695 K VDI AND THE PAST YEAR THE WORST YEAR WAS LIKE FOR FOUR OR FIVE FOR 5500 I THINK.

SO IT'S IT'S AS DRY AS IT'S EVER BEEN AT THE 4TH OF JULY.

SO EXCEPT IF YOU HAVE TO GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2011 TO FIND A DRIER YEAR.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I THINK HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BE SAFE WITH STICKS AND FINS.

BUT IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT THAT WE SAY NO FIREWORK SALES, YOU CAN DO THAT.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK I'M READY TO DO THAT YET.

BUT AND REMEMBER WHAT THE DEADLINE IS ON THE ON THE DATE TO ACT ON THIS BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL COMMISSIONERS COURT IF WE WAIT.

BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE BY JUNE THE 15TH.

OKAY. SO YEAH.

WHAT'S THE TIME FOR THAT. YEAH, JUST WE LITERALLY COULDN'T POST IT.

SO, SO, SO WE'LL EITHER GO WITH STICKS AND FINS OR NO FIREWORKS AT ALL RIGHT NOW.

AND AGAIN, JUST IF THE COURT BY JULY 4TH KEEPS THE BURN BAN ON, THEN THIS ORDER HAS NO EFFECT BECAUSE THE THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDER STATES THAT IF THERE IS A BURN BAN, THEN THERE AREN'T FIREWORK SALES.

THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE IF WE GET SOME FREE REIN THAT ALLOWS THE COURT TO TAKE IT OFF, THEN FIREWORK SALES WILL BE THAT WAY.

SO WHAT ABOUT COMMERCIAL? COMMERCIAL FIREWORKS STICKS AND FINS? I THINK YOU CAN STILL HAVE IT.

I'M NOT EVEN DURING A BIRDMAN.

SO THE THE I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDER ITSELF AND GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO DO THAT. YEAH, TO DO WHAT? I WRITE IT. SORRY.

1/2. THAT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN DO IS IT'S 915, SO I CAN WE CAN TABLE THAT FOR A FEW MINUTES AND AND

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LET THESE GENTLEMEN GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE.

[PUBLIC HEARING 9:15]

SORRY, NOT PRESENTATION.

YOU OKAY WITH THAT, CHASE? OF COURSE. WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 915 PROPOSED CALDWELL COUNTY PACE PROGRAM.

THIS IS WHERE THE COURT IS CONSIDERING IMPLEMENTING THE PACE PROGRAM.

AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS INTENDED TO GIVE THE CITIZENS OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THAT IF THEY CHOOSE.

SO WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR 5 MINUTES AND GIVE FOLKS A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THAT IF THEY WISH.

COME ON UP. MY NAME IS CHARLENE HOTTINGER.

I'M PRESIDENT OF TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY.

WE ARE EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COUNTY.

YOU'VE HEARD A WORKSHOP PRESENTATION FOR ME BEFORE.

IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I THINK WE FINALLY ALL UNDERSTAND IT.

SO YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME.

IN CASE I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 918 AND MOVE TO THE

[ViewPoint Engineering Presentation]

COMING UP. THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU.

SO AS I DON'T SHOW THAT WE HAVE ANY SORT, ANYTHING WORKING.

IT'S UP HERE. IT'S THE PROBLEMS UP HERE.

OH, HOLD ON. WE HAVE HANDOUTS, THOUGH, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START.

OKAY, GREAT.

AS EVERYONE DOING TODAY. THANKS FOR HAVING US.

I'M TOM STOPPARD, THE MANAGING PARTNER OF VIEWPOINT ENGINEERING.

WE'RE BASED OUT OF SOUTH AUSTIN, TEXAS.

TODAY WITH ME, I HAVE MY DIRECTOR OF RESIDENTIAL PLANNING, LUKE CARRAWAY, WHO IS CURRENTLY WITH KIMLEY-HORN. BUT COMING OVER TO A VIEWPOINT HERE IN A FEW WEEKS, ERIC BEALS, WHO RUNS COMMERCIAL AND VERTICAL DESIGN.

WE ARE ALSO BUILDING A GOVERNMENT DIVISION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

ON THE PHONE, I HAVE KEVIN WARE FROM CG OUT OF DALLAS.

HE HAS AN IMMENSE EXPERIENCE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, GOVERNMENT AND ALL SORTS OF SCHOOL BOARDS. ADDITIONALLY OUT OF COLORADO, OUR DIRECTOR OF PM, NICOLE HANN FROM THE AIR FORCE, SHE IS THE MAIN PERSON WHO RUNS A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS.

AND DAN ROSS OVER HERE, WHO IS THE VP OF OPERATIONS FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE COMPANY AS WELL. AND SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES.

AND I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY IS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS WHERE MANY CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE MOVING TO. AND SO I THINK YOU'LL HOPEFULLY FIND THERE'S SOME VALUE

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ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PROPOSAL? OKAY. LET'S GET TO IT.

SO FOR YOU THAT CAN'T SEE.

BYE. BY DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE 23 PEOPLE ON OUR STAFF AND OUR OUR GOVERNMENT DIVISION ALONE WILL HAVE SEVEN EMPLOYEES SUPPORTING A VARIETY OF THINGS, WHETHER IT BE PUBLIC WORKS. HERE YOU GO.

THE PLANNING OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WE WE'RE BRINGING ON MORE PEOPLE TO DERIVE ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH COST ANALYSIS, ACCOUNTING AND REALLY A WAY TO SCALE UP OUR DIVISION FOR ALL COUNTIES AND CITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN TALKS WITH A FEW COUNTIES ON THIS PROPOSAL, AND IT'S GETTING A LOT OF TRACTION.

AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS EVERYONE KNOWS THE SMALL STATES, IN PARTICULAR TEXAS, IS BOOMING.

RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND COMING FROM THE COUNTIES AND CITIES.

CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE UNDERSTAFFED.

AND THE THE MODEL OF THE OLD OF CHARGING THE CITY COST TO DO THE SERVICE DOESN'T WORK.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU A PROPOSAL THAT REDUCES ALL COST AND IN FACT, WILL CREATE REVENUE FOR THE FOR THE COUNTY AND CITIES.

SO AGAIN, OUR TEAM HERE, THESE ARE THE MAIN PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN.

AND WE HAVE A BIG STAFF THAT ARE GROWING BENEATH US.

AND SO WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT WE ARE OBSESSED ABOUT CONTROL SYSTEMS, ACCURACY AND PROCESS. AND SO THAT IS ONE ELEMENT TO OUR TEAM THAT WILL REALLY ELEVATE THE COUNTY HERE. AS YOU SEE, MORE AND MORE PROJECTS COME TO YOUR TABLE, YOU'LL GET A TEAM THAT REALLY HAS THIS THING BUTTONED UP AND NO MORE DELAYS IN OUR SUBMITTALS.

NO MORE ERRORS IN THE SUBMITTALS.

YOU'LL HAVE A CRISP PACKAGE FOR FAST REVIEWS, RIGHT? I THINK TODAY WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DELAYS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES, A LOT OF COUNTIES TELL YOU RIGHT NOW LOCKHART IS RUNNING 18 MONTHS IN ENTITLEMENTS, WHICH IS IT'S I MEAN, IT'S UNREASONABLE FOR WHAT IS NEEDED FROM HOUSING AND SCHOOLS AND COMMERCIALS.

SO DEFINITELY A PAIN POINT TO ADDRESS.

AGAIN, THIS IS OUR OUR SERVICES.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A WIDE ARRAY OF SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

AND THIS IS REALLY BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN 80 YEARS OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE AT OUR COMPANY.

SO AGAIN, AND WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE NEEDED, WE HAVE THIRD PARTY VENDORS TO HELP US OUT, SUCH AS KIMLEY-HORN KGI IN MY STATE OF SAN ANTONIO, I THINK I WANT TO HIT ON A FEW REASONS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, I THINK POOR CASEY OVER HERE GETS INUNDATED WITH REQUESTS ALL THE TIME LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTER, TRYING TO COLLECT CHECKS, THE SUBMITTAL PROCESS FOR CONTENT AND INFORMATION. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT MAKES IT A A HARD DAY FOR HER AND THE TEAM.

THE ONE BENEFIT THAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT THIS IS GOING FORWARD, ALL DEVELOPERS, ALL SUBMITTALS WILL HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT.

IT WILL BE THROUGH A PLATFORM.

SO IT'S CONTROLLED UPFRONT, RIGHT? WE'LL HAVE A DATABASE OF ALL THE CONTENT FOR THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT FULL TRANSPARENCY ON THE BACKLOG AND WHAT IS COMING, WHICH WILL HELP YOU ALL AGAIN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE PIPELINE. ADDITIONALLY, AGAIN, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS IN A SECOND, BUT THIS IS A MODEL THAT THE CITY OF BUDA IS NOW DOING, AND LUKE CARRAWAY IS LEADING THAT ENTIRE INITIATIVE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS HERE SHORTLY.

BUT A SECOND PIECE OF THIS MODEL IS, AGAIN, IT GOES FROM A MODEL WHERE THE COUNTY IS BEING CHARGED FOR THE SERVICES TO A MODEL WHERE THEY'RE MAKING REVENUE OFF OF IT.

AND HOW THAT WORKS IS DEVELOPERS AND THOSE THAT SUBMIT THEIR REVIEWS WILL PAY AN UPFRONT FEE TO THE FIRM THAT IS THROUGH THE BANK OF CHASE.

WE WILL GIVE FULL VISIBILITY TO THE COUNTY TO SEE ALL THOSE FEES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS COMING IN TO THE TO THE ACCOUNT AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT WE SHARE BACK 15% OF ALL THOSE FEES.

AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO ENGINEERING STAFF TO HANDLE OR NEED TO PAY FOR THOSE OR PAY OUT OF THOSE FEES. SO AGAIN, IT GOES FROM A COST MODEL TO A REVENUE MODEL FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK WHEN WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS HOW FAST WE GET THESE PROJECTS UP AND GOING RIGHT, INCREASING THE TAX BASIS, MAKING THE COMMUNITY GROW FOR THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED AGAIN, SCHOOLS, MEDICAL OFFICES, HOMES, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED THAT IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE CURRENT MODEL, IT'LL END UP BEING LIKE A LA CARTE 18 TO 24 MONTH PERIODS OF ENTITLEMENTS.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT.

SO. ACTUALLY ON THIS POINT, LUKE, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE CITY OF BUDA FOR EFFICIENCIES GAINED AND WHAT YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, TOM.

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IT ACTUALLY WAS STARTED OFF AS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN SUN FIELD MUD AND THE CITY OF BUDA, AND IT WAS IMPLEMENTED AS A WAY TO JUST, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THE CITY HANDLE THE WORKLOAD THAT WAS CREATED BY A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S AS BIG AS SUN FIELD.

YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING ROUGHLY ABOUT 1000 LOTS PER YEAR. AND AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, THAT CREATES JUST A HEAVY AMOUNT OF WORKLOAD FOR CITY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE.

SO CAME UP WITH THIS WITH THIS SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THAT IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPER DRIVEN FROM A FROM A FEE STANDPOINT.

SO THE DEVELOPER PUTS UP AN ESCROW USUALLY THE THE THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING FIRM DOES LIKE A LEVEL OF EFFORT ESTIMATE DETERMINES HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO PERFORM THE REVIEW.

AND THEN THE DEVELOPER PUTS UP THAT ESCROW SEPARATELY TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT REVIEW.

I CAN TELL YOU ALL, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, YOU KNOW, CITY, AS YOU EXPECT, I MEAN, CITY OF BUDA IS EXTREMELY BUSY AND VERY FAST GROWING CITY, NOT JUST WITH SUN FIELD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO SUN FIELD.

SO JUST REALLY PUTS A HEAVY BURDEN ON STAFF AND AVERAGE TIMELINE FOR CITY REVIEW.

WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THIS PROGRAM WAS ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

IT TOOK ME A YEAR TO GET A PRELIMINARY PLOT APPROVED AND TEN MONTHS OF THAT.

WAS IT BEING IN REVIEW WITH THE CITY? I ONLY IT WAS ONLY IN MY COURT FOR TWO MONTHS OUT OF THAT, OUT OF THAT PERIOD.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS REALLY A BIG STRUGGLE THERE.

SO WE IMPLEMENTED THIS PROGRAM.

IT WAS IT WAS BASICALLY CENTERED AROUND, YOU KNOW, A COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO PROVIDE ONE MONTH REVIEW ON THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN ALL SUBSEQUENT ROUNDS TO WEEK REVIEWS.

I CAN SAY THE RESULTS FROM THAT WAS, WAS BASICALLY CUTTING OUR PERMITTING TIMELINES IN HALF. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET IT DONE IN ABOUT PROBABLY ROUGHLY ABOUT 5 TO 6 MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS THERE IS IS GOING TO BE QUALITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT REVIEWS ARE ARE AT A HIGH LEVEL.

I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN DEFINITELY REASSURE YOU THERE THAT THE THIRD PARTY ENGINEERS THAT I DEALT WITH WERE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET APPROVALS FROM THE CITY STAFF.

SO THERE DEFINITELY WAS, IF ANYTHING, IF ANYTHING, AN INCREASED SCRUTINY AROUND QUALITY OF PLANS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A REALLY SOLID PRODUCT TO GO OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION ON ANY ANY KIND OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

SO YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW, WAS WAS A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

NOW THE CITY HAS IMPLEMENTED IT WITH ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, SO IT'S AVAILABLE TO ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARY OF BUDA.

AND I HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, I CURRENTLY HAVE EIGHT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF BUDA AND EVERY DEVELOPER HAS ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, TIME IS MONEY. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S JUST A THERE'S A REALLY BIG INCENTIVE THERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO TO PARTICIPATE.

AND I THINK IT'S A SYSTEM THAT REALLY KIND OF RELEASES THE BURDEN ON CITY COUNTY STAFF.

THEY'RE STILL INVOLVED.

THERE'S STILL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THE PROGRAM TO AN EXTENT.

COMMENTS COME BACK AND GET REVIEWED BY CITY ENGINEERING STAFF.

SO THERE'S STILL THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL THAT AUTHORITY AND THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT STEP PROCESS.

SO IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, WE'RE THEY'RE INVOLVED IN MEETINGS.

WE'RE DEALING WITH BOTH CITY STAFF AND THE EXPEDITED REVIEWER.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WANT TO REITERATE, IT HASN'T BEEN A WAY TO JUST CIRCUMNAVIGATE.

THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

IT'S REALLY JUST A WAY THAT HELPS YOU SPEED UP THOSE REVIEW TIMELINES, YOU KNOW, WHICH,

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APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

SO THAT SAID. HERE WE GO AGAIN.

UM, SIX FOOT SEVEN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, FIVE FOOT NINE.

SO ANYWAYS, YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SO LUKE BRINGS THAT EXPERTIZE.

KEVIN ON THE PHONE HERE FROM CG IS HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF CG.

AND AGAIN, THEY'RE HEAVILY FOCUSED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS IN THE, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SPACE.

AND SO BETWEEN THEM AND OUR TEAM OUT OF SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE A LARGE ARRAY OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS SPACE. OKAY.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO ON TO THE THE BRASS TACKS I HAVE.

SURE. COUPLE THIS FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS.

SO SO THIS IS FOR JUST COMMERCIAL REVIEW PLANNING ONLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ON INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL PER MEETING AT ALL.

WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PERMIT TOO FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BUILD, FOR INSTANCE, JUST A HOME ON SOME ACREAGE.

SO THIS WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON THAT.

YEAH. SO WE WE ARE STILL ABLE TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS FOR REVIEW OF REALLY ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED REVIEWS ON.

RIGHT. WHAT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND GET THAT STREAMLINED FOR YOU.

BUT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO USE US, WE'RE HERE TO DO THAT.

THIS. I THINK THIS IS MORE OF FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THE INDIVIDUAL HOME THAT'S I THOUGHT SO MORE OF JUST THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS LIKE SHORT FORM PLOTS AND SO ON FROM THAT LEVEL.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THE GUN THAT THAT THE DATABASE OF SUBMITTALS, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE BANK ACCOUNT TO TO TO SEE ALL THE FEES COMING IN AND COMING OUT.

WE HAVE IT ON STAFF ACCOUNTING TEAM THAT WILL BE RECONCILING MONTHLY ALL THE FEES IN ALL THE PROJECTS. AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT WOULD HELP WITH YOUR EVALUATION OF A TAX BASIS TO SOME EXTENT.

SO AND YOU KNOW, WITHOUT LIKE I SAID THIS FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS, SO HAVEN'T HAD ANY TIME TO DO ANY DATA TO SEE WHAT OUR REVIEW TIMES CURRENTLY ARE.

THIS IMPROVES THEM OR NOT.

I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WITHOUT DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH.

YEP. SO AT A HIGH LEVEL, AGAIN, THE THE MONEY PART OF IT, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, IS ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, THE CURRENT COST OF THE SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.

RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A REVENUE MODEL TODAY.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS BASICALLY, TO LUKE'S POINT EARLIER, AS THE DEVELOPERS PAY THE UPFRONT FEE, WHICH IS BASED UPON THEIR PROJECT VALUATION, AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO GIVE THEM A CERTIFIED PCC VALUATION OF THEIR PROJECT.

THAT'S OUR THIRD PARTY APPRAISAL OF THEIR PROJECT.

THAT FEE WILL EITHER INCREASE OR DECREASE ACCORDINGLY, AND AT THAT TIME, WE THEN PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A 15% ALLOCATION TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT WILL BE FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT HITS HITS THE HITS THE DOCKET.

SO, AGAIN, AT OUR AT OUR ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL VISIBILITY INTO WHAT YOU SEE. BUT WE ARE ESTIMATING, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE PAST, BETWEEN A QUARTER MILLION TO A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR IN REVENUE TO THE COUNTY, WHICH IS QUITE OPPOSITE OF THE DAY.

SO. OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SURE I'LL HAVE SOME MORE AFTER I HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS, BUT.

NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

NOW LET ME TRY TO REMEMBER WHERE WE'RE AT.

[9. Discussion/Action to consider adopting an order permitting the sale of fireworks during the 41h of July fireworks period. (Part 2 of 2)]

THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE IS.

THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE IS THE ALLOWANCE OF FIREWORK SALES DURING THESE PERIODS.

THAT AUTHORIZATION IS UNDER THE OCCUPATIONS CODE, WHICH ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF A COUNTY TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF FIREWORKS DURING PARTICULAR HOLIDAY PERIODS.

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SO WHAT THE ORDER CURRENTLY SAYS IS THAT THE THE SALE OF FIREWORKS IS AUTHORIZED UNLESS THE TEXAS FIRE SERVICE DETERMINES DROUGHT CONDITIONS EXIST.

IF THEY DETERMINED DROUGHT CONDITIONS EXIST, THEN THE SALE OF FIREWORKS IS NO LONGER AUTHORIZED. IF THE FIRE SERVICE DETERMINES THAT DROUGHT CONDITIONS DO NOT EXIST, THEN THE SALE OF THE STICKS AND FINS FIREWORKS IS STILL PROHIBITED.

AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE WHAT THEY'RE IT'S IT'S BASED ON WHATEVER THEY HAVE.

ONE OF THE WHAT THEY CALL IT A.

HMM. I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE IS OFFICIALLY SOMETHING.

IT'S CALLED THE WAY THE KBI IS AT 695.

YEAH, AND THAT'S JUST EXTREME FIRE DANGER AND DROUGHT CONDITIONS MEANS THE DIE IS GREATER THAN 575.

RIGHT. SO THERE WE GO.

THE FOREST SERVICE DETERMINES THE CDBG.

SO IF THEY IF THEY'RE THE ONES ISSUING THAT NUMBER, SO IF IT'S ABOVE THAT REGISTER, THEN DROUGHT CONDITIONS EXIST.

YEAH. AND WE ARE WE ARE WE ARE EXCEPTIONALLY WAY ABOVE THAT.

SO OUR AUTHORITY UNDER THAT STATUTE DEALS WITH THE SALE OF FIREWORKS.

YES, NOT THE USE.

THAT'S RIGHT. SURE. I'LL MAKE SURE.

DON'T TELL YOU WRONG. IT IS FOR THE SALE OF FIREWORKS.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO. SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING FOR US TO DO HERE THEN IF THAT DROUGHT CONDITIONS EXIST.

UNLESS YOU WANTED TO PASS IT SO THAT IN THE EVENT THAT DROUGHT CONDITIONS CHANGE, THEN THE SALE WILL BE AUTHORIZED. BUT THAT'S THAT WOULD BE A DECISION.

I MIGHT WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'M COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT MOTION.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT SHOULD DROUGHT CONDITIONS LESSEN DOWN BELOW THE CVI LEVEL OF WHAT WAS AT CHASE 575 575 THAT STICKS AND FINS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

NO STICKS, NO FANS. STICKS AND SALE FIREWORKS STICKS AND PINCERS.

YEAH, STICKS AND FINS ARE STILL PROHIBITED, BUT THE GENERAL SALE WOULD, WOULD BE ALLOWED AT THAT. AND THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT THE ORDER SAYS CURRENTLY BEFORE THE COURT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AT SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I, I OPPOSED HEARING NON MOTION CARRIES.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE EASIEST ONE WE DID ALL DAY.

[10. Discussion Only Caldwell/ Hays ESD 1 related to adoption and enforcement of the fire code by and within Caldwell/ Hays ESD I district boundaries.]

CALDWELL HAYS SD ONE RELATED TO ADOPTION AND ENFORCEMENT OF FIRE CODE BUYING WITHIN CALDWELL HAYES.

SD ONE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS KEN BAILEY. I'M THE FIRE CHIEF OF TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

I'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH A A HANDOUT, IF WE COULD.

IT'S VERY SHORT.

ON SECOND PAGE, TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE IS ACTUALLY A CONSORTIUM OF TRAVIS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE. DISTRICT NUMBER 11, TRAVIS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER 15. AND CALDWELL HAYS, EAST ONE OPERATING IS ONE COLLECTIVE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE MAP THAT YOU SEE SHOWS THAT WE COVER PORTIONS OF A SMALL PORTION OF HAYS COUNTY, A LARGER PORTION OF CALDWELL COUNTY, AND OBVIOUSLY THE SOUTHEAST SECTION OF TRAVIS COUNTY. BUT WE OPERATE AS ONE ORGANIZATION.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO FIRE STATIONS OPERATING IN CALDWELL, SD ONE WITH PLANS FOR A THIRD AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN POSSIBLY GET THE LAND AND GET IT BUILT.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING A FIRE CODE FOR BOTH CALDWELL HAYS, SD ONE AND TRAVIS COUNTY, SD 15 TO COVER THE WHOLE SERVICE AREA.

AND THE QUESTION IS WHY NOW? AND THE COMPLEXITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS. WE USED TO JUST GET A METAL BUILDING.

NOW WE'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.

CURRENTLY THERE IS NO FIRE CODE WITHIN THE TRAVIS COUNTY SORRY, CALDWELL COUNTY SECTION, BUT THERE'S THE 2018 VERSION OF THE FIRE CODE IN OUR HAYS COUNTY SECTION, THERE'S THE 2015 FIRE CODE AND OUR TRAVIS COUNTY SECTION.

SO AS A SERVICE AREA, WE REALLY KIND OF HAVE THIS HODGEPODGE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.

IN SOME PLACES IT EXISTS.

IN SOME PLACES IT DOESN'T.

OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE ONE AREA OF FIRE CODE TO ADAPT TO THE AVAILABLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF COMPLIANCE TO TO DEVELOPERS.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ALSO TO ADDRESS THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT.

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SO WITHIN THAT AREA ALONE, WE HAVE THREE FOURTHS OF THAT LANDMASS, DOESN'T HAVE A FIRE CODE AND THE OTHER SECTION DOES, AND WE'D LIKE TO TRY AND CORRECT THAT.

AND JUST FROM AN INTEREST STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT MAP, YOU SEE THESE AREAS LIKE I CALL ONE OUT A CC 1105.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO AS A RESPONSE AREA POLYGON.

WE MEASURE THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND WHAT OUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE IN EACH OF THOSE POLYGONS, AND THAT HELPS US PLAN FOR FUTURE STATION PLACEMENT AND WHERE WE'RE NOT MEETING OUR RESPONSE TIME GOALS.

IF WE SLIDE TO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS FOUR ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, I DEMONSTRATE WHAT THE CURRENT STATE IS.

AND AS I HAD SAID EARLIER IN THAT TRAVIS COUNTY SECTION, WE HAVE THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE AND THE HAYS COUNTY IS THE 2018.

I KNOW THAT HAYS COUNTY AND BOTH TRAVIS COUNTY ARE ARE PROBABLY NOT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THEY WILL BE MOVING TO THE 2021 CODE.

AND SO OUR FUTURE STATE, AS WE SEE IT AT SOME TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE WOULD BE THE 2021 CODE IN ALL OF OUR SERVICE AREA.

THE PAGE FIVE IS IS THE DUTIES AND POWERS OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT BOARD TO ADOPT A FIRE CODE. OR JUST YOUR REFERENCE? I WILL SAY THAT IN OUR CASE IN THE TRAVIS COUNTY SIDE AND ON THE HAYS COUNTY SIDE, WE CAN'T CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY FIRE CODE.

SO WE CAN BE MORE STRINGENT, BUT WE CAN'T CONFLICT WITH BECAUSE IN A FIRE CODE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED THERE.

AND THEN LASTLY, ON SLIDE SIX, THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER ONE.

IT WOULD NOT IMPACT ANYBODY CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

IT WOULD BE FOR EVERYBODY PULLING A PERMIT AFTER THAT TIME.

DOESN'T IMPACT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.

IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON MULTIFAMILY DWELLING AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WILL BE AN ONLINE SUBMITTAL AND REVIEW AND THE FEE STRUCTURES ARE CURRENTLY BEING DETERMINED. OUR GOAL WAS TO SPLIT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WHAT TRAVIS COUNTY AND HAYS COUNTY IS TO JUST HAVE KIND OF A A NOMINAL FEE.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YES, GO AHEAD, MR. BAILEY. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BEFORE US AND TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS.

I THINK WE'VE HAD A FEW DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF ADOPTING PORTIONS OF FIRE CODE IN COAL COUNTY.

AND I THINK YOU MAY BE PARTICIPATED IN ONE OR ONE OR TWO OF THOSE THAT I REMEMBER.

YES. FROM FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT, WE'VE LOOKED AT ADOPTING CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE FIRE CODE, MAYBE RELATED TO SAFE ACCESS TO FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

THAT THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED AT.

AND THEN ALSO RV, MOBILE HOME PARKS, TRYING TO GET THE AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS SEPARATION OF STRUCTURES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THERE'S BEEN I RECALL DURING THOSE MEETINGS, WE'VE HAD SOME FROM LEGAL ADVICE DURING THOSE THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS THAT IF IF IT WERE APPLIED THE WHOLE FIRE CODE TO THE COUNTY, THAT THAT IT WOULD IMPOSE ADDITIONAL COST ON US RELATED TO REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF NEEDING TO REVIEW UNDER THESE THE 2021 FIRE CODE AND WHAT THAT ENTAILED. WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO CONTRACT WITH A FIRE MARSHAL TO PROVIDE INSPECTIONS AND THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

SO IF YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ADOPTION IN YOUR AREA WITHIN CALDWELL COUNTY, WHAT WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR US, THE CALDWELL COUNTY AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, OUR INSPECTIONS? AND THEN HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE? I GUESS COST RELATED TO THESE.

THIS WOULD APPLY TO OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, I WOULD GUESS.

SO WHAT WHAT PHYSICALLY WOULD CHANGE FROM SOMEONE THAT'S COMING IN TO PUT A BUSINESS OUT IN CALDWELL COUNTY UNDER THIS FIRE CODE THAT'S NOT IN EFFECT TODAY? YES, SIR. SORRY FOR THROWING A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO TRY AND ANSWER IT.

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SO CURRENTLY LET'S GIVE TWO SCENARIOS.

I COME TODAY AND I WANT TO BUILD A 5000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SOMEWHERE NORTH OF LOCKHART. I WOULD GO THROUGH THE COUNTY'S TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING PROCESS.

WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WHERE WE REVIEW DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. SO ALL OF THAT STAYS THE SAME.

AND AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE, LET'S SAY THAT THE SAME THING OCCURRED ON OCTOBER THE FIRST, THEN THAT SAME PERSON WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO SUBMIT THE PLANS TO US FOR REVIEW AND AND DETERMINATION.

DOES THIS REQUIRE SPRINKLERS? WILL IT HAVE ADEQUATE RADIUS FOR ENTRY AND EXIT? ARE THE WIDTHS OF THE STREETS, FIRE LANES, HYDRANT LOCATIONS? WHAT ARE THE FIRE FLOW REQUIREMENTS? WE WOULD THEN COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO THAT PERSON AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. IN AN IDEAL SEARCH CIRCUMSTANCE.

Y'ALL WOULDN'T SIGN OFF UNTIL WE SIGNED OFF AND WE WOULDN'T SIGN OFF UNTIL YOU ALL SIGNED OFF. AND THAT RELATIONSHIP WOULD EXIST IN ALL THREE COUNTIES.

SO UNDER THE FIRE CODE, WOULD THERE BE AN EXPECTATION WITHIN THESE AREAS REGARDING FIRE HYDRANTS SPRINKLING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS? YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AREAS, THE AREA IS OCCUPIED BY RURAL WATER SYSTEMS. YOU MIGHT HAVE A 2 TO 4 INCH LINE OUT THERE PROVIDING DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE.

YES. SO ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRE CODE, JUST AS PRESCRIPTIVE, I THINK THAT IS I THINK IT'S BAD PUBLIC POLICY.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF COMPLIANCE.

IT IS UNREALISTIC TO HAVE SOMEBODY BRING IN.

WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU THIS.

IF I BUILD ONE SQUARE FOOT OF A BUILDING, THE FIRE CODE REQUIREMENT AS IT SITS TODAY IS 1500 GALLONS OF WATER A MINUTE.

THAT IS UNREALISTIC INTO THE COUNTY.

SO DO WE STOP DEVELOPMENT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME RISK ISSUES TO THAT.

SO IN LIEU OF THAT, IN A BUILDING THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE NEED TO HAVE SPRINKLERS, DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE TO SPEND 15 GRAND TO PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN OR EVEN 20 GRAND TO PUT A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN? OR DO I MAKE THEM BUILD AN $80,000 TANK THAT I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO USE ANYWAY? THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE MAKING MORE SENSE TO WHAT IS OUR WHAT IS OUR END OBJECTIVE HERE? I DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE TO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE PROBLEM IN TRAVIS COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, INDEPENDENT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HAS MADE THE DECISION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU PUT THESE TANKS UP.

WELL, THAT'S AN $80,000 INVESTMENT.

I CAN PUT A 13 D SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN TODAY.

IN THE LAST ONE WE PUT INTO ONE OF OUR FIRE STATIONS WAS 15,000.

NOW IT'S CLOSER TO 25.

BUT THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A SAVINGS.

OUR GOAL IS, IS REALLY WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DIE IN THAT BUILDING.

WE WANT EARLY NOTIFICATION.

WE WANT EARLY WATER ON THE FIRE, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE TAX ROLLS IF WE'RE ALL BEING HONEST WITH ONE ANOTHER.

SO THAT SEEMS TO BE ACHIEVABLE WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND $1,000,000 TO BRING IN AN EIGHT INCH LINE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? AND I THINK JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE THE SECOND FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBE, WHAT WHAT ARE THE WATER REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ONE AND PRESSURE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THE $80,000 TANK AND SO YOU GET ENOUGH PRESSURE TO PRESSURIZE THE RISER AND DO THE BUILDING. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO A 13 D SYSTEM WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE FOR A MULTI STOREY DWELLING.

THAT'S THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A 7000 OR 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

13 D SYSTEM IS SELF CONTAINED.

SO IT HAS ITS OWN PUMP.

IT HAS ITS OWN TANK.

IT'S ALL SELF CONTAINED.

I DON'T NEED ANY CONNECTION TO THE MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR ME.

WHAT DOES THE COUNTY HAVE I KNOW YOU'RE REPORTING TO THIS TO US THAT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING ADOPTING.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY ROLE IN THAT ADOPTION? WELL, THE SD BEING INDEPENDENT CAN DO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

WE DON'T WANT TO MESS IN Y'ALL'S KITCHEN.

WE WANT TO WE WANT TO COMPLEMENT WHATEVER Y'ALL ARE PLANNING TO DO.

AND TO YOUR POINT AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE JUDGE, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SOME CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO ACHIEVE AS WELL.

WE SEE THIS AS A COMMUNITY DECISION.

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AND THE WAY THAT WE INTERPRET THIS, TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AS A COMMUNITY TO SAY WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE COVER YULIN NEAR WALL MUSTANG RIDGE AND CREEDMOOR AND THEN IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF TRAVIS COUNTY IN HAYS COUNTY. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND SAY, DO WE WANT FIRE HYDRANTS SPACED 500 FEET? WE CAN DO THAT.

DO WE WANT IT 750? DO WE WANT IT 1000? WHAT ARE THE REPERCUSSIONS? MY JOB IS TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH INFORMATION TO SAY, IF I DO THAT, THERE'S INSURANCE IMPACTS TO PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ANTICIPATED.

BUT BUT I THINK THOSE ARE COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS.

SO SO LET'S I WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE FEES? YES, SIR. YOU ALL WOULD FUNCTION AS THE FIRE MARSHAL.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND KEN, I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET RUN OVER BY BEER TRUCK TOMORROW AND I GET SOME GUY THAT DOESN'T THINK JUST LIKE YOU, I GOT A PROBLEM.

YES, SIR. SO I'VE GOT A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

SO YOU'RE NOT ADOPTING IT UNTIL OCTOBER? WE'RE. YES, WE'LL ADOPT AT SOME POINT.

WE WON'T START ENFORCING UNTIL OCTOBER ONE.

SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO US AND AND DISCUSSING IT WITH US.

AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU.

OR I WOULD, YEAH, FOR SURE.

AND YEAH, VERY MUCH SO.

AND WE OF COURSE, THIS DISCUSSION ONLY, SO WE CAN'T REALLY ACT ON IT, BUT MAY BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM TO A POINT A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM THE COURT TO TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH YOU AND THE ESD SO THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND MAYBE WE CAN CODIFY A LITTLE BIT OF THESE THINGS SO THAT IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION IF WE GET A DIFFERENT FIRE MARSHAL. YES, SIR.

HAVING BEEN IN THE BUILDING BUSINESS FOR A WHILE.

FIRE MARSHALS ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.

SO? SO THAT I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED IN JUST IF THERE IS A WAY WE COULD GET THAT CODIFIED SO THAT IF THE NEXT FIRE MARSHAL COMES ALONG, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THAT IN WRITING. THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME BEFORE THE NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[11. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Proclamation recognizing Workforce Solution Rural Capital Area for 35 Years of Service to Caldwell County.]

SERVICE TO COLWELL COUNTY AND ALFONSO CIFUENTES IS HERE AND I THINK HE'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

GOOD MORNING, GEORGE COUNTY COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS ALFONSO CIFUENTES AND I AM THE VICE CHAIRMAN FOR THE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

AND WE REPRESENT THE NINE COUNTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT AND THAT'S AROUND TRAVIS COUNTY AND THAT INCLUDES CALDWELL COUNTY, WHICH I'M PROUD TO CALL MY HOME AS WELL.

WITH ME IS ALSO KIRBY BROWN, WHO'S OUR WORKFORCE CAREER AND OUTREACH SPECIALIST, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE HAYDEN AND THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA FOR ITS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR 35 YEARS.

ALL OUR ALL VOLUNTEER BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE COMMITTED TO EMPOWERING LOCAL EMPLOYERS TO COMPETE AT A GLOBAL LEVEL BY ENHANCING UPSKILLING OPPORTUNITIES AND CHILD CARE SERVICE FOR THE WORKFORCE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

OUR NATION IS FACING THE SKILLS GAP, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGH DEMAND SKILLS EMPLOYERS WANT OR NEED, AND THE SKILLS THEIR LOCAL WORKFORCE OFFERS.

ADDRESSING THIS CHALLENGE IS A MAIN CONCERN FOR OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND OUR PARTNERS AT THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

WHILE OUR REGIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE CONTINUES TO SLIDE DOWN TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS, UNDEREMPLOYMENT REMAINS A CHALLENGE.

THERE'S A GREAT MISALIGNMENT OF SKILLS, BUT IT'S A PROBLEM WE KNOW HOW TO FIX.

WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF DECADES OF EXPERTIZE DELIVERING CUSTOMIZED WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS FOR TEXAS.

TO UNDERSTAND WHY OUR WORK IS VITAL TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE BELIEVE. WE BELIEVE CALDWELL COUNTY IN OUR RURAL CAPITAL AREA IS THE BEST PLACE IN THE COUNTRY TO LIVE, WORK AND DO BUSINESS.

WE WANT TO SPREAD THE WORD THAT OUR REGION BOASTS AN INCREDIBLY SKILLED WORKFORCE, READY TO ATTRACT ENTERPRISE TO TEXAS.

BY FOCUSING ON THE NEEDS OF EMPLOYERS, WE HELP GIVE OUR RURAL CAPITAL AREA COMMUNITIES THE COMPETITIVE EDGE NECESSARY TO DRAW BUSINESS HERE AND COMPETE.

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LAWYERS, INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES BY DIRECTING THEM TO OUTSTANDING CHILDCARE SERVICE TRAINING PROVIDERS AND WORKFORCE PARTNERS TO FOSTER OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE AND SUSTAIN ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.

WE ARE PROUD TO CELEBRATE WHAT MAKES OUR AREA WORKFORCE SYSTEM UNIQUE AND TO HIGHLIGHT THE INVESTMENTS BEING MADE TO ACHIEVE OUR VISION AND MISSION AND TO ENSURE OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE MET.

AND MOST IMPORTANT, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE LIVE HERE AND WE WANT TO SEE OUR COMMUNITIES SUCCEED AND ECONOMY RECOVER FROM THE PANDEMIC. IN EACH OF OUR WORKFORCE CENTERS, YOU'LL SEE OUR STAFF SUPPORTING EMPLOYERS WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION SOLUTIONS AND ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS WITH RESOURCES TO FIND A JOB TRAINED TO BUILD HIGHER PAYING CAREER OR CONNECTING THEM WITH OTHER SERVICES, LIKE CHILDCARE ASSISTANCE TO KEEP THEM EMPLOYED.

WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT SPIRIT OF INNOVATION WITH A COMMITMENT TO CREATING WORLD CLASS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S A WIN WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR WORKFORCE.

WE'RE PROUD TO HELP FUEL THE ECONOMY, THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND CONTINUE PROVIDING OUR NEIGHBORS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

THANKS TO YOUR PARTNERSHIP, WE'LL CONTINUE DEVELOPING TALENT FOR EMPLOYERS BY COACHING, BY COACHING CENTRAL TEXANS TO EMPLOYMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA FOR 35 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CALL COUNTY, WHEREAS THE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD WAS INCORPORATED ON JUNE 30TH, 1987 TO PIVOT TO PRESERVE OUR STATE'S INTEGRATED, EMPLOYER DRIVEN WORKFORCE SYSTEM BY PROVIDING NO COST RECRUITMENT, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES AND CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE TO BUSINESSES AND JOB SEEKERS SPECIFIC TO THE NINE COUNTY RURAL CAPITAL AREA OF CENTRAL TEXAS. AND.

WHEREAS, CALDWELL COUNTY AND WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA AND PARTNERSHIP ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING LOCAL EMPLOYERS WILL HAVE HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED WORKFORCE, AND OUR RESIDENTS WILL HAVE THE COMPETENCIES, SKILLS AND EDUCATION TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT AND LIVE A QUALITY LIFE.

AND. WHEREAS, WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA IS LED BY 27 VOLUNTEER BOARD OF DIRECTORS COMPRISED OF COMMUNITY LEADERS FROM ACROSS MANY AREAS OF EXPERTIZE, INCLUDING BUSINESS, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATION, GOVERNMENT LITERACY, LABOR AND VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION TO FURTHER ITS MISSION OF EMPOWERING THE WORKFORCE OF THE RURAL CAPITAL AREA.

AND. WHEREAS, WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA HAS BEEN UNIQUELY ABLE TO MEET THE CHANGING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS OF CALDWELL COUNTY'S ECONOMY AND PROVIDES THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYERS AND RESIDENTS WITH CUSTOMIZED SOLUTIONS TO EMPOWER THEIR WORKFORCE JOURNEYS.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CELEBRATION OF WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA'S 35/35 ANNIVERSARY WOULD HONOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE MORE COLWELL COUNTY EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS TO CONNECT WITH THEIR WORKFORCE PROGRAMS. AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIM THAT THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF CALDWELL, STATE OF TEXAS, DOES HEREBY COMMAND WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA FOR ITS OUTSTANDING EFFORTS OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS.

AND WE EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR ITS LEADERSHIP IN ALL AREAS OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. IT IS IMPORTANT WORK WITHOUT WITHOUT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. OUR WORKFORCE WOULD NOT BE AS ROBUST AS IT IS.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE HERE IS WE DO HAVE A ROBUST WORKFORCE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.

COULD I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION? RECOGNIZING WORKFORCE SOLUTION RURAL CAPITAL AREA 3435 YEARS OF SERVICE CALDWELL COUNTY.

SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I POST HERE AND THEN MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. YOU WANT A PICTURE? OKAY. YEAH. PICTURE THE UNIVERSE.

YOU WANT TO DO IT NOW? LET'S GO AHEAD.

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[12. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Proclamation recognizing June 19, 2022, as Juneteenth, and commemorating the announcement of the abolition of slavery in Texas. ]

ONE OF THE JUNETEENTH ONE.

DO YOU WANT TO READ THIS ONE? LET ME GET THROUGH THE. OK IPHONE 12 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 19, 2022 IS JUNETEENTH AND COMMEMORATING THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IN TEXAS.

OKAY. I WANT TO READ A PROCLAMATION FOR JUNETEENTH 2022.

WHEREAS THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY IN AMERICA AND AMERICA BEGAN IN 1616 WITH THE LANDING OF THE FIRST SLAVES ON OUR SHORES AND CONTINUED OFFICIALLY UNTIL PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION JANUARY 1ST, 1863.

AND. WHEREAS, ALTHOUGH THIS HISTORIC PROCLAMATION WAS ISSUED IN 1863, TEXAS SLAVES WAITED TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO RECEIVE WORD OF THEIR LIBERATION.

WHEN, ON JUNE 19, 1865 UNION SOLDIERS, LED BY A MAJOR GENERAL, GORDON GRANGER, LANDED AT GALVESTON AND ANNOUNCED THAT ALL TEXAS SLAVES WERE FREE.

WHEREAS THE 19TH DAY OF JUNE OR JUNETEENTH MODERATES THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IN TEXAS AND BECAME A DAY OF JUBILATION AND LIBERATION FOR FORMER SLAVES.

AND TODAY IS THE OLDEST KNOWN CELEBRATION OF THE ENDING OF SLAVERY IN OUR NATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE RESOLVED THAT THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT THE 19TH DAY OF JUNE 2022 SHALL BE CELEBRATED AS JUNETEENTH OF AMERICAN EMANCIPATION DAY.

IN RECOGNITION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF JUNETEENTH TO HUMAN FREEDOMS SO CHERISHED BY THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES, ADOPTED THIS 14TH DAY OF JUNE 2022.

GREAT COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 19TH, 2022 AS JUNETEENTH AND COMMEMORATING THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

COMMISSIONER. YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, I OPPOSE HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES.

[Items 13 & 14]

THESE ARE THESE ARE ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD EARLIER.

ITEM 13, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 30 62022 TO ESTABLISH THE CALDWELL COUNTY PACE PROGRAM.

AND I WILL.

THAT'S A NICE, LONG ONE.

HOLY MOLY.

DO WE HAVE TO READ IT INTO THE MINUTES CHASE? IT'S IN THE BACKUP PITCHER, SO I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO.

IT'S IF YOU WANT TO OR NOT OR IF YOU WANT TO DELEGATE THAT.

BUT IT HAS TO BE READ.

NO, I DON'T THINK IT DOES.

BUT IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, YOU COULD NAVIGATE IT.

I WOULD PREFER JUST TO TO.

UNLESS EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT AND LISTEN TO ME READ THIS, I THINK WE'RE CLEAR ON IT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD.

AND DO WE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? I'M WEARING HIGH HEELS FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.

SO IF YOU CAN WAVE IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THAT'S AWESOME. I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING IT.

SO WITH THAT, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 36,222 TO ESTABLISH THE CALDWELL COUNTY PACE PROGRAM? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I.

I OPPOSE HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 14 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT

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AND COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE ALSO IN YOUR BACKUP, THERE'S THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN DISCUSS IT NOW.

IF NOT, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, I OPPOSE HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE COUNTY.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[15. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Resolution 37-2022, authorizing the County Judge to administer the Professional Services Contract between the County and Doucet & Associates, Inc.]

THIS IS OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT.

YOU'RE GOING TO OK. THANK YOU.

THAT'S IN EFFECT.

THIS. THIS IS SIMPLY.

FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY WANT TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY SOMEWHERE, THE COURT WOULD BE AUTHORIZING ME TO APPROVE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY.

OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE WHAT WE DO AND I'LL THROW THE FLOOR OPEN TO DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ANY. WELL, I AM CONCERNED WITH IT BECAUSE WE ALL EXPRESSED IN OUR ONE OF THE BUDGET MEETINGS THAT THAT WASN'T EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS JUST FOR ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

BUT WELL, THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE COMMISSION.

BUT IF WE GO INTO THIS AGREEMENT, WE WERE ALL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, ENGINEERING SERVICES DURING A BUDGET MEETING THAT WE ALL WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT VERY WELL, AND I WOULD HATE TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH THEM AGAIN PREMATURELY BEING IN OUR BUDGET CYCLE.

THIS CONTRACT'S ALREADY IN EFFECT.

COMMISSIONER, IT'S JUST AUTHORIZING ME TO APPROVE SOMETHING UNDER IT.

WOULD WE NOT HAVE ALREADY AUTHORIZED YOU THAT IN THE PAST? AND NOW WE IN THE PAST WE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WITH AIR TRAFFIC, SAY THAT YOU ASKED FOR WE BROUGHT IT TO COURT AND GOT APPROVED.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S THAT IT IS A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY EVERYONE.

AND SIMILARLY, COMMISSIONER, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY JUST TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THAT KIND OF THING. THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ISSUES WHERE DOUCETTE HAS SOME SORT OF CLARIFICATION THAT THEY NEED THAT MIGHT BE HOLDING UP A PROJECT RATHER THAN JUST GETTING THE YES OR NO. IS THIS WHAT YOU.

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED? THEY WOULDN'T INSTEAD HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO THEN GET THAT CLARIFICATION, WHICH PUTS IT ON A TWO WEEK CYCLE WHEN THEY MAY BE ASKING A VERY SIMPLE CLARIFICATION THING.

SO THIS IS STILL UNDER THE SAME SITUATION OF IF WE HAD DURING OUR BUDGET CYCLE AND WE HAD TEN DIFFERENT ENGINEERING SERVICES COME IN HERE, GET PROPOSALS OF WHAT MAY BE MONEY SAVING TO THE COUNTY.

WE STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY DURING OUR BUDGET CYCLE AND BEFORE OUR NEXT YEAR OF THE NEXT YEAR TO HIRE THAT SERVICE.

YES, THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD. YES, COMMISSIONER, THIS DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE COUNTY TO CONTINUE USING DUES THAT IF THEY IF THE COMMISSIONERS CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT, ALL THIS DOES IS JUST ALLOW FOR MORE INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE COURT AND THE AND THE ENGINEERING FIRM SO THEY CAN GET THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS COVERED.

IT ALSO DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE TO LIKE ON HIS OWN BUYING THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY OUTSIDE OF JUST A CLARIFICATION.

RIGHT. I KNOW THAT, LIKE IF HE DID SOMETHING THAT HAS COME FORTH JUST LIKE THE TRAVIS.

RIGHT. WE HAVE TO APPROVE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO IT, RIGHT? YES. I'M OKAY WITH IT.

AND, JUDGE, I TRUST IF THERE WAS EVER AN ISSUE WHERE IT WAS A PRECINCT BASED.

I TRUST YOU.

COMMUNICATION. COMMUNICATION WOULD BE GIVEN.

YES. AND THAT'S NORMALLY THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESSES.

BUT IF THERE'S EVER A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW.

IT'S TIME SENSITIVE.

WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THREE WEEKS TO DO SOMETHING.

THEN I WOULD CALL WHATEVER COMMISSIONER'S THAT WAS IN THEIR PRECINCT.

SAY, THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN APPROACHED WITH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND THEN WE'D SAY YES OR NO.

BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING OPTIONS FOR ENGINEERS OR PLANNERS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. AGAIN, THIS IS I JUST ASSUME WE ALREADY HAD THIS IN EFFECT.

I MEAN, IF YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG.

I HAVE NEVER I HAVEN'T I'VE NEVER, NEVER MADE A DECISION WITHOUT BRINGING IT TO COURT.

BUT I JUST MAKING THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT WAS JUST A SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP AND IT WOULD AUTHORIZE ME TO TELL THEM TO GO AHEAD WITH

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AND SIMILARLY, THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.

AND IN THE SAME VEIN, I CAN'T GIVE THEM CLARIFICATIONS WITHOUT GETTING THE AFFIRMATIVE FROM YOU ALL.

IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT.

SO THIS JUST CUTS OUT A MIDDLEMAN.

AND THIS IS THE EXTENDED CONTRACT FROM THE 2019 2021 TO NOW ONE THROUGH 2022.

BECAUSE THE CONTRACT THAT'S PROPOSED IS ALL ABOUT THE 2019 CONTRACT, AND THEN IT DOES HAVE IN THERE THAT THERE'S A TWO YEAR ADDITIONAL TWO YEAR PERIOD.

THIS IS JUST THIS CONTRACT THAT'S IN YOUR END.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M READING.

YES. MENTIONED THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED ON THE I THINK IT WAS THE 19TH IN 2019.

YES. YEAH, YEAH.

TEN FOR 2019 WHEN THIS ONE WAS SIGNED.

RIGHT AFTER THE BUDGET CYCLE.

YEAH. AND AND IT HAS A I MEAN I'M ASSUMING CHASE I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT HERE REAL QUICK ON THE TERMINATION IS A 30 DAY NOTICE.

CORRECT ON THAT.

I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER. IT HAS A SIMPLE TERMINATION POLICY.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S AT THAT POINT THAT'S NOTHING'S CHANGING.

NOTHING'S CHANGED AT ALL ABOUT IT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL READ THE RESOLUTION, AND THEN WE CAN VOTE.

RESOLUTION OF CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WHEREAS ON OCTOBER 14, 2019, THE COBB COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THROUGH THE CALDWELL COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT PSA BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND DYSART ASSOCIATES TO SET, WHEREAS THE PSA AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTION TO DO THAT WHEN NEEDED.

AND. WHEREAS, THE COUNTY COBB COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETS EVERY SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF A GIVEN MONTH ON THE 14TH ON THE 14 DAY CYCLE.

AND. WHEREAS, THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT RECOGNIZED THAT TIME SENSITIVE CLARIFICATIONS, DIRECTION OR INSTRUCTION MAY BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE ORDERLY COMPLETION OF COUNTY PROJECTS AND TO ENSURE EFFICIENT USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, THAT THE COUNTY JUDGE IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO ADMINISTER THE PSA AND PROVIDE CLARIFICATION, DIRECTION OR INSTRUCTIONS TO DO THAT AS NEEDED.

AND IT WOULD BE, OF COURSE, ORDERED, ORDERED TODAY.

TODAY'S DATE 2022.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT FOR A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 37 2022.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I.

I OPPOSE ANY ABSTENTIONS.

OKAY. SURE.

ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

WE HAVE WE HAVE THREE EYES AND NO NAYS AND ONE ABSTENTION.

SO MOTION PASSES.

[16. Discussion/Action to consider the approval to adopt amended 381 Agreement with Buc-ee's Ltd, allowing for Buc-ee's to assign or transfer its rights, duties, and obligation to an affiliated if the affiliate assumes all Buc-ee's contractual obligations.]

WHAT I JUST READ IS SOME LANGUAGE THAT CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WE APPROVED THE 381 AGREEMENT.

SO WE JUST NEED TO APPROVE THAT THAT LANGUAGE AND RE APPROVE THE 381 AGREEMENT.

SO I LOOK FOR A MOTION, COMMISSIONER.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WHENEVER WE HAVE A MOTION TO PROVIDE HIM 16, WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY I I HERE HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 17

[17. Discussion/ Action to consider the approval of increasing the salary for the Treasurer's Chief Deputy Position.]

THE TREASURER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE $2,448.55.

THAT WAS THAT'S IN ONE POSITION AND MOVE IT TO HERE.

I'LL JUST READ THE AMENDMENT.

PROBABLY BE EASIER.

OK. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY MOVEMENT IN HERE. BUT SHE SHE'S SHE'S REQUESTING THE MOVE $2,448.55 FROM.

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GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

AND COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD, I'M ANGELA ROLLINS AND COUNTY TREASURER HERE THIS MORNING. I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOU.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALL MET, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE TREASURY TEAM, WE HAVE DARLENE MORRIS HERE.

PLEASE STAND DARLENE.

AND SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 18 YEARS.

AND THEN WE HAVE BECKY DIAZ, WHO AFTER 23 YEARS OF WORKING AT FIRST LOCKHART NATIONAL BANK, JOINED THE COUNTY.

HOW MANY YEARS AGO? BECKY? EIGHT YEARS AGO.

AND NOW SHE IS WITH THE TREASURY TEAM.

BACK WHEN WE WERE BUDGETING FOR AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY, WASN'T SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH THE RATE OF PAY WOULD BE.

SO I SAID A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THERE IS THAT MONEY THAT'S LEFT OVER THAT I DIDN'T UTILIZE THAT IT'S ALL IN MY DEPUTY TREASURE LINE ITEM AND THAT I WANT TO PUT TO DARLENE'S POSITION FOR PERFORMANCE.

WE HAD A CHANGE IN OUR OFFICE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER EMPLOYEE.

THERE'S MORE SUPERVISORY DUTIES.

DARLENE HAS SUPERVISORY DUTIES.

SHE'S TRAINED, TRAINING THE DEPUTY TREASURERS.

SHE HAS STEPPED UP AND HAS BEGUN WITH HER NEW DUTIES AS FAR AS ASSISTING ME WITH BANK RECONCILIATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO THAT REMAINING 24 TO 48, WHICH IS ALREADY IN MY BUDGET AND IT'S A NET COST OF ZERO, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TO PUT THAT WITH DARLENE SALARY AND ALSO TO MAKE HER EXEMPT SINCE SHE IS A SUPERVISOR AND IT DOES COVER MORE THAN 50% OF HER JOB DUTIES.

ANY QUESTIONS.

THE THE RED LINE OR THE EXCUSE ME, THE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AREAS ON THE THE JOB DESCRIPTION ARE THOSE I JUST WANT TO GET.

YES, MAKE SURE I'M READING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

YES. THOSE ARE WERE THE ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND IF YOU SEE WHERE IT'S RED AND ITS ITALICIZED. AND THE SECOND BULLET POINT WITH THE ASSISTING WITH THE BANK RECONCILIATION QUARTERLY REPORTS THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND SHE WE HAVE BEEN SHE'D BEEN TRAINED ON AND SHE HAS ASSISTING ME AND SO THIS IS AS THIS IS A REWARD FOR HER PERFORMANCE.

AND LIKE I SAID, SHE HAS BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 18 YEARS.

SHE HAS NEVER REALLY MOTIONED FOR A RAISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S IT'S OVERDUE AND IT'S DESERVED.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED IN MY BUDGET.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REWARD DARLENE FOR HER PERFORMANCE AND HAVE HER REAP THE BENEFITS OF THAT 2400 A YEAR.

I THINK IT COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY A DOLLAR 15 AN HOUR THAT I SHARE THIS WITH WITH ANGELA.

BUT I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN WE TAKE THE BALANCE OF ONE EMPLOYEES SALARY AND MOVE IT TO THE OTHER, BECAUSE IT LEAVES NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT EMPLOYEE TO TO GET ANYTHING ABOVE A COST OF LIVING RAISE GOING FORWARD WITHOUT A LARGER RAISE IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. SO I JUST ALWAYS LIKE TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD WHEN, WHEN THESE COME OUT.

AND ALSO FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I SAT WITH BOTH OF MY STAFF MEMBERS AS A TEAM AND WE DID DISCUSS THAT.

WE DISCUSSED IT AGAIN, BASED ON YOUR CONCERN, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE TODAY.

IF THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IS TRANSPARENT AND THERE WAS NO CONCERNS EXPRESSED TO ME WHATSOEVER. IT WAS 100% SUPPORT.

SO. BUT MY STAFF IS HERE.

SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? VERY GOOD. THIS IS ALREADY IN YOUR BUDGET AND IT'S A COST.

IT'S NOT REALLY A GIVEN HER AN AWARD.

IT'S ACTUALLY.

IT'S COMPENSATING FOR HER DEEDS THAT'S ON HERE.

WELL, THESE DUTIES.

BUT THESE DUTIES. EXCUSE ME.

THESE DUTIES WERE ADDED LAST YEAR.

CORRECT. AS OF OCTOBER OF THIS PAST YEAR.

YES. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT THROUGH.

YES. THEY'VE BEEN ADDED IN THIS CYCLE RIGHT HERE WE'RE IN.

YES. BEFORE WE HAD TO GET THROUGH THE HIRING OF THE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY, GET THROUGH ALL THE SET UP, ALL THE TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE DARLENE COULD BE AVAILABLE TO DO THE THE OTHER DUTIES I GET.

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TYPICALLY, I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, IS WE'VE HANDLED THEM CONDITIONALLY, ONE BY ONE, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, AND WE'VE DONE THEM BASED UPON ADDITIONAL DUTIES.

THIS SEEMS AND THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THAT HER PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN EXCELLENT.

THAT'S NOT A NOT A QUESTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONNOTATION TO THIS ONE.

AS PREVIOUS ONES, THE ONLY HAS THE BIGGEST HESITATION I HAVE IS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH BUDGET RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND WE'VE WE'VE HELD OFF ON SOME OTHER THINGS BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO, NOT JUST FOR SALARIES, BUT FOR EVERYTHING, FOR BUDGET, FOR NEXT YEAR. AND THAT'S MY ONLY MY ONLY HESITATION IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT WOULD MAYBE BE A DIFFERENT AVENUE TO TAKE AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING IT FROM THE FROM THE NEW BUDGET GOING FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO MID-STREAM, SO TO SPEAK.

THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY HESITATION.

AND I'LL, I'LL ALLOW ANYBODY ELSE TO COMMENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A PAYMENT FOR OR AN INCREASE IN SALARY FOR SERVICES PREVIOUSLY RENDERED OR SERVICES TO BE RENDERED.

IN ORDER FOR THE COURT TO PASS THIS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR SERVICES TO BE RENDERED.

SO JUST THAT CLARIFICATION WHEN THE COURT VOTES SAY THAT AGAIN, SO THE COURT CAN'T GRANT AN INCREASE IN SALARY BASED ON PAST PERFORMANCE, YOU CAN ONLY BE FOR FUTURE PERFORMANCE. AND SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING FOR THE COURT TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE IT'S VOTING. JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT SO MUCH BEEN ALL PAST PERFORMANCE.

IT'S CURRENT PERFORMANCE.

IT IS FUTURE PERFORMANCE.

WELL, I THINK WHAT CHASE IS SAYING IS IF YOU CREATE A NEW POSITION AND YOU PUT ALL THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS IN THAT NEW POSITION, THEN YOU WOULD BE GIVING A RAISE BASED ON WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING IN THE FUTURE.

IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WHAT THEIR WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO DO IN THE FUTURE, WHICH COULD BE INCREASED WORKLOAD BASED ON THE CURRENT JOB DUTIES. IT'S JUST IT JUST CANNOT BE FOR PAST PERFORMANCE.

IT CAN'T BE A MERIT RAISE.

RIGHT. THEN SOMETHING YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO PRESENTED.

WELL, YOU SEE, SHE STARTED DOING THOSE JOBS EVEN THOUGH WE SAID IT, AND THEN SHE HAD TO TRAIN. I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE THE BETTER WAY TO SAY IT IS THIS.

IT HAS TO BE FOR HER SALARY, FOR HER DUTIES GOING FORWARD.

IT CAN'T BE A BONUS.

YES, IT'S NOT A BONUS.

IT'S TO INCREASE HER SALARY.

AND I'VE LOOKED AT HER SALARY HISTORY AND OVER 18 YEARS, IT'S WELL BELOW WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR THAT TIME IS AS WELL.

SO SHE'S IT'S SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I WANT TO CLARIFY. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WITH IF WE GO FORWARD THROUGH THE BUDGET TALKING ABOUT INCREASING IT, I DON'T I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WHAT I GET HUNG UP ON SOMETIMES IS THE THE MECHANISMS THAT WE WE HAVE USED MID MID BUDGET CYCLES SOMETIMES THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I GET HUNG UP ON AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MONEY IN THERE AND THAT LINE ITEM WAS GIVEN.

BUT IT IT DOES CREATE IT DOES CREATE ISSUES ACROSS THE OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.

IF WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT IN THE APPLICATION OF HOW WE DO IT, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHERE MY IT HAS IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE.

IT'S JUST THE CONSISTENCY AND HOW IT'S APPLIED IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS.

IF THAT CLARIFIES IT, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY INCONSISTENCIES, I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE. NO.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WE WE'RE PUNISHING ONE PERSON FOR NOT FOR OUR INCONSISTENCIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT ON HOW WE'VE ASKED FOR CHANGES IN JOB DESCRIPTION WHEN WE'VE WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE DONE THIS.

BUT I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT WE'RE ALWAYS KEEPING IN MIND THE WAY THE WAY THAT WE'RE MANAGING IT, SO TO SPEAK.

WELL, THIS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE ASKED FOR A RAISE FOR MY STAFF.

NO, NO, HE'S TOUGH, BUT HE'S TALKING.

WE CAN'T JUST ONLY FOCUS ON YOUR DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE FOCUS ON EVERY DEPARTMENT AND EVERY BIT OF THE BUDGET AND FINISH EVERY BIT OF THE BUDGET AND HOW WE APPLY THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

BECAUSE THERE'S I CAN GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET AND AND DARLENE IS A VERY HARD WORKER.

I WORK RIGHT ACROSS THE HALL, PREMIER.

I KNOW THAT. AND I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS, BUT WHAT MY POINT IS, IS THAT THERE ARE PLACES THROUGHOUT OUR BUDGET WHERE SOMEBODY IS MAKING LESS THAN WHAT WAS

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I HAVE SOMETIMES I HAVE ISSUES WITH TAKING THAT AMOUNT AND THEN SPREADING IT OUT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR WHEN THIS PERSON WHO WE TOOK THEIR FUNDS FROM TAKES ON EXTRA DUTIES, NOW WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOT ONLY GIVING THE 5% ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE ANOTHER RAISE TO THE PERSON WHO WE DEPLETED THEIR FUNDING FOR.

SO THAT AMOUNT IS IN MY DEPUTY ASSISTANCE LINE ITEM THAT.

OKAY, SO I'M NOT TAKING AWAY YOU'RE TAKING YOU'RE TAKING THAT AMOUNT.

THERE'S LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 40,000 AND YOU'RE BUDGETED FOR $42,000 FOR THAT POSITION FOR THAT PERSON AND YOU TAKE THAT $2,000 AND YOU GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO THAT'S USED EVERY BIT OF MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THOSE DEPUTIES FOR THAT YEAR.

YES. NEXT YEAR, YOUR DEPUTY THAT YOU TOOK THAT MONEYS FROM, YOU SAY, WELL, NOW SHE'S DOING ALL THESE EXTRA DUTIES AND I WANT TO GIVE HER A RAISE.

NOW WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE BUDGET ABOVE THE COST OF LIVING.

I UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.

SO HAVE YOU ALWAYS SUBMITTED YOUR BUDGET REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR? YES. YES. AND IT'S.

AND WE HAVE ALL THAT HERE.

YES. DURING THE DURING THE BUDGET.

I JUST WONDERED IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU AND, YOU KNOW, IF BECKY PERFORMS A VERY WELL AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A PERFORMANCE BASED RECOGNITION.

THERE'S IF THERE'S A SAVINGS SOMEWHERE IN MY BUDGET NEXT YEAR, I'LL COME BEFORE COURT AND REQUEST A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY OUT OF A LINE ITEM INTO ANOTHER THAT WE DON'T DO PERFORMANCE BASED OR MERIT.

WE DON'T DO REVIEWS, WE'RE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

WELL, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE WONDERING YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO, DEPLETING FOR ONE POSITION AND GIVING TO ANOTHER.

AND THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE ONE POSITION THAT WE DEPLETED? THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT THAT'S MY POINT.

YOU CAN'T YOU YOU CANNOT GIVE A MERIT BASED RACE TO SOMEBODY.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BUDGET CYCLE TO COME AROUND.

IF HER IF SHE TAKES ON MORE DUTIES.

CORRECT. I MEAN, MID-STREAM.

YOU CAN'T THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SAID.

THAT'S A MERIT RAISE AT THAT POINT.

AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

MID-CYCLE SAY WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

IS IT TO BE OCTOBER OF 2024 IF IT GOT APPROVED BY THE COURT? I UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY I BALKED, BECAUSE IT'S IT COULD BE THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. AND THAT'S NOT JUST IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S EVERY DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT COULD TURN INTO $100,000 PRETTY QUICK IF IF EVERYBODY STARTED WANTING TO DO THAT. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A FROM A GLOBAL BUDGET STANDPOINT AND NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT.

AND I RESPECT THAT, THAT THIS MONEY IS THERE.

AND I AGREE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT BEING AS PART OF THE SUBMITTAL FOR FOR THE NEXT FISCAL CYCLE.

IT'S JUST THE YEAR 2024 FOR YOUR UPCOMING BUDGET.

BUT THE MID-CYCLE MECHANISM IS IS CHASE SAID, CAN BE PROBLEMATIC AND NOT NECESSARILY DOABLE SOMETIMES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? BE LOOKING FOR EMOTION.

WELL, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE SALARY INCREASE AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THE SALARY INCREASE IN LIEU OF THE BUDGET IN LIEU OF THE BUDGET CYCLE. CORRECT, CORRECT.

SO I CAN GO BACK IN AND IN MY BUDGET.

YOU CAN'T. NO, YOU CAN'T.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO AMEND YOUR BUDGET.

ONLY THE COURT CAN RAISE YOUR BUDGET.

I THINK. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOUR SUBMITTAL, YOUR SUBMITTAL FOR NEXT YEAR? YEAH, THAT'S. OH, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

MY APOLOGIES. YES, I'M SORRY.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SAY IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE.

AYE. I OPPOSE HEARING THAT MOTION CARRIES.

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[18. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #64 to transfer money from (001- 3200-1090) Office and Labor to (001-3200-1040) Clerical & Assistances for District Attorney Salary Budget. ]

CLERICAL AND ASSISTANCE FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SALARY BUDGET.

THIS WAS A CODING ERROR, COMMISSIONER, AND THEY HAD BEEN THEY HAD BEEN CODING THE WRONG LINE ITEM. SO WE'RE JUST MAKING THIS TRANSFER TO CORRECT THAT CODING ERROR.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'D LOOK FOR EMOTION TO PROVE ITEM 18.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

MOST DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE EMOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE HEARING NON MOTION CARRIES ITEM 19 DISCUSSION ACTUALLY CONSIDER

[19. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #65 to transfer money from (001- 3201-1040) Clerical & Assistants to (001-3201-1090) Office and Labor for Environmental Task Force salary coding error.]

OFFICE AND LABOR FOR ENVIRONMENTAL TASK FORCE.

SAME SITUATION COMMISSIONERS.

THERE WAS A CODING ERROR AND IT WAS GETTING PAID OUT OF THE WRONG LINE ITEM.

SO WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY TO CORRECT THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOW I'D LIKE FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OUT OF 19.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I POSED HERE AND NINE MOTION CARRIES AND WE KIND OF DISCOVERED THESE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW.

AND SO WE'RE PULLING UP EVERYONE'S BUDGETS AND WE DISCOVERED THESE ITEM 20 DISCUSSION

[20. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #66 for Sheriffs Office and Jail to revise salary line items and employee coding errors. ]

AGAIN, SAME THING.

SALARY WAS BEING DONE OUT OF THE WRONG LINE ITEM.

SO WE'RE WE'RE HAVING TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY TO REPLENISH THAT LINE ITEM.

ALSO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 20.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY I OPPOSE LINE ITEM 21 DISCUSSION ACTION AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT

[21. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #67 to transfer money from (001- 65l 0-4860) Contingency to (001-4321-5310) Machinery & Equipment Constable Pct. I for the additional funding for Toughbook mounts.]

MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT POSSIBLE PRECINCT ONE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TOUGHBOOK MOUNTS. CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE GOT THE TOUGH BOOKS BUT DID NOT GET THE MOUNTS.

AND SO WE'RE TRANSFERRING MONEY TO TO GET THE MOUNTS FOR THEIR VEHICLES.

ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE NOT LOOKED FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 21.

SOME OF WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

NO, SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I OPPOSE HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 22 DISCUSSION ACTION TO

[22. Discussion/ Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #68 to transfer money from (002- 1101-3205) Bridge Repair/Replace to (002-1101-3163) Fuel for additional Fuel price increase.]

BRIDGE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT 200211013163 FUEL FOR ADDITIONAL FUEL PRICES.

I THINK THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, DIESEL WAS $2 AND SOMETHING A GALLON IS NOW $5 A GALLON.

AND SO THIS IS THIS SHOULD BE A HOT TOPIC IN OUR UPCOMING BUDGET WORKSHOP.

BUT FOR NOW, I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT 68.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO. WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I OPPOSE HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 23 DISCUSSION ACTION AND

[23. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #69 to transfer money for American Structurepoint SH 142 project drawdown from Fund Balance. ]

POINT S 142 PROJECT DRAWDOWN FROM FUND BALANCE.

COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU RECALL, YEAR BEFORE LAST, WE AUTHORIZED 500,000 FOR THAT FOR AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE LAST YEAR, THAT 500,000 GOT SWEPT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

WE DECIDED TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS FAR AS WE COULD WITHOUT BRINGING THAT MONEY BACK OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT WE ARE TO A POINT NOW WHERE IT'S AT 500,000.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET 345,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE DRAWDOWN ON THAT PROJECT.

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I TO SAY IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO COST US LESS.

YEAH. IT WAS BENEFICIAL TO DO IT THAT WAY.

SO. BUT WE'RE AT WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING IT BACK OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.

I MOVED TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 69.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY, I POSE HERE AND THEN MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 24 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF REQUISITION 01687 IN THE AMOUNT OF $97,387.52 FOR WJC CONSTRUCTION SERVICES LLC FOR PAYMENT APPLICATION NUMBER THREE HARVEY CDBG D.R.

INFRASTRUCTURE BLACK ANKLE ROAD CAROLINE.

I DON'T THINK SO. IS YOUR LITTLE GREEN LIGHT ON? OH, THERE WE GO.

SO, YES. SO THIS IS JUST SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE REQUISITION BECAUSE IT IS OVER THE $50,000 THRESHOLD.

IT IS FOR WHAT IT SAYS THERE FOR PAYMENT APPLICATION NUMBER THREE FOR THE HARVEY CDBG INFRASTRUCTURE ON BLACK AND GOLD ROAD COMMISSIONERS.

DO WE HAVE A REPORT ON THAT ROAD AT ALL? IT'S ON, FOR EXAMPLE.

FURTHER DOWN. WELL, I SAW IT'S ITEM 35.

CAN WE CAN WE HAVE A REPORT FIRST? SURE. YEAH.

CONSIDER THINGS. YEAH, I MEAN, THEY DID THE WORK, SO WE GOT TO PAY THEM.

BUT, YEAH, LET ME FIND WHICH ITEM IT IS.

35. ALL RIGHT.

[ 35. Discussion of the update of Black Ankle Rd. in the CDBG-DR Program Infrastructure Projects.]

DISCUSSION OF UPDATE OF BLACK ANCHOR ROAD AND SEE CDBG PROGRAM INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE WEATHER HAS BEEN GOOD TO US FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE A GOOD REPORT FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.

TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO DAVID.

WHEN JUDGE GORDON COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING WITH WJC.

WE HAD OUR BIWEEKLY MEETING LAST MONDAY.

THEY UPDATED US ON PROGRESS ON THREE SITES AT POLITICAL ROAD WJC AS RE MOBILIZED TO FINISH UP SITE EARTHWORK RIP WRAP PLACEMENT AND PAVEMENT FOR POLITICAL ROAD.

RIGHT NOW PAVEMENT IS SET FOR THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

THEY'RE PREPARING ALL THE SUB GRADE AROUND THE AREA AND THEN ONCE PAVEMENT GOES IN, THEY'LL BE MOVING BACK OVER TO BLACK ANKLE ROAD.

RIGHT NOW, BLACK ANKLE, THE CULVERT CONCRETE HAS BEEN PLACED.

WE'RE WAITING ON CURE TIME SO WE CAN BEGIN TO BACKFILL.

THERE'S TWO MORE CONCRETE POURS FOR THE TRAFFIC RAIL ON TOP OF THE BOX.

AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE, WE CAN BEGIN FINISHING PAVING EXCUSE ME, FINISHING EARTHWORK, FINISHING RIP WRAP AND THEN SCHEDULING PAVEMENT FOR THAT SITE.

ALSO GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS AT WHITTIER ROAD.

TRAFFIC CONTROL HAS BEEN INSTALLED.

NOTICES WENT OUT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO FOR FOLKS ADJACENT TO THE WOOD ROAD SITE.

TRAFFIC CONTROL HAS BEEN INSTALLED ALONG THE ENTIRE DETOUR ROUTE AND THEY'RE PLANNING ON SHUTTING DOWN THE CROSSING TOMORROW.

THEY ARE MOBILIZING EQUIPMENT, I BELIEVE, TODAY AND TOMORROW MORNING TO BEGIN TO SHUT DOWN THE CROSSING, BEGIN EXCAVATING THE AREA AND BEGIN TO WORK ON THAT SITE.

SO I DID NOTICE ALL OF THE SIGNS FOR WINTER ROAD.

THEY HAVE REALLY PUT UP A LOT OF SIGNS PRETTY MUCH TO EVERY CONNECTION IT HAS BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I LIVE.

I JUST WISH THEY WOULD HAVE PUT SOME KIND OF SIGN THAT WOULD HAVE STATED THAT THEY WERE CLOSING IT AND A DATE, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE SIGNS ARE KIND OF CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY DID DO IT AT EVERY PLACE IT INTERSECTS.

SO YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE, WHAT? BUT I KNEW BECAUSE BEING HERE I KNEW WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT I KNOW THE PUBLIC'S NOT ALL AWARE OF THAT.

IF OH, WELL, THEY'RE CLOSING IT TOMORROW, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

AS I SAY, MAYBE THEY COULD STICK SOMETHING OUT THERE CLOSER TO WHERE IT'S SHUTTING DOWN ON EACH SIDE OF IT THAT THIS ROAD WILL BE CLOSED AS OF THIS DATE.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITIZENS OUT THERE TRAVELING.

RIGHT. RIGHT.

WE WE KIND OF RAN UP AGAINST THE CLOCK ON THAT ONE.

I HAD CREATED A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS WHERE WE HAD A FEW SITES WHERE WINTER ROAD COMES OFF OF BOTH THE HIGHWAY AND THE FORMER MARKET ROAD.

THAT SAID, JUST VERY SIMPLY SHUT DOWN FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THIS DATE, TO THIS DATE.

C COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR C BASICALLY DENNIS OFFICE FOR PLANS.

THE NOTICES THAT WE SENT OUT DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC CONTROL ROUTE, BUT THOSE ONLY GO TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WE TALKED ABOUT AT ONE TIME TRYING TO CONTACT EVERYONE ALONG

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IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 95 PARCELS, SO IT WASN'T QUITE FEASIBLE.

AND AGAIN, WE CAME UP TO THE POINT WHERE WGC WAS READY TO MOVE TO THAT SITE.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO DELAY THE PROJECT ANY FURTHER, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD THAT THAT SITE IS KIND OF IN AN ODD PLACE BECAUSE IT RUNS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD AS WELL AS MANY DIFFERENT CREEKS.

SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF CONNECTORS BETWEEN THOSE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WHICH MEANS THAT FOLKS TECHNICALLY HAVE TO REROUTE THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

LOCKHART IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD SOLUTION.

OTHERWISE, THE THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US IS THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH TRAFFIC ON THAT SECTION OF THAT ROAD. YES, IT WILL IMPACT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD.

HOWEVER, THEY HAVE THE MOST SIGNAGE AND MOST NOTIFICATION THAT WE SENT OUT WITH THE LETTERS. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING RESIDENTS IN THE AREA INFORMED OF DECISIONS, TIMELINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK TO TO FIX THAT AND MAKE THAT BETTER GOING FORWARD.

WE HAVEN'T PROJECTED TIME.

HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CLOSED, I BELIEVE.

LET ME SEE IF I'VE GOT MY SCHEDULE HERE SINCE YOU ALL SCHEDULE AFTER THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING, IT LOOKS LIKE BY JC'S RECKONING, IT'S AN 85 DAY FROM BEGINNING SENDING NOTICES TO COMPLETION AT THE SITE.

SO WE'RE ALREADY ABOUT 14 DAYS INTO THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE REOPENING WITH A ROAD AFTER FINAL PLACEMENT IN AT THE END OF AUGUST.

AGAIN, WEATHER HAS BEEN ON OUR SIDE AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCELERATE A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT MAY BE SOONER, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE US AN OPTIMISTIC SCHEDULE.

THEY WANT TO GIVE US A REALISTIC SCHEDULE SO THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION, WHETHER IT'S IDEAL OR NOT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT WHEN A ROAD WILL BE CLOSED AND I KNOW WE REALLY NEED TO? THE REASON I ASKED THE TIMELINE WAS ABOUT SCHOOL, RIGHT? AND THIS WILL IF IT'S THE END OF AUGUST, SCHOOL STARTS BACK LIKE 14.

AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. SO THEY WOULD NEED THAT NOTIFICATION AS WELL.

IF WE I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD GET THAT TO AC AND WE'LL GET THAT TO OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND WE'LL GET THAT OUT THERE, GET THAT SCHEDULE OUT.

AND SO I WOULD APPRECIATE I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF WE IF WE COULD GET MYLES TO MAKE HIS MAKE AS MUCH EFFORT AS WE CAN VISIBLE AS VISIBLE AS WE ALREADY KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE THE THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, SO TO SPEAK.

IF WHEN WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING.

YES, I CAN REST ASSURED.

I REST ASSURE.

EVEN THIS WEEKEND STILL CORNERED MULTIPLE TIMES.

I WAS GOING TO ALSO ASK IF YOU GUYS HAD COORDINATED WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES, FIRE OR AMBULANCE, THOSE WE REACHED OUT A FEW MONTHS AGO.

IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT AGAIN.

REMIND THEM THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR DROUGHT SITUATION, WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE HAVING MULTI ACRE FIRES EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY.

AND SO THEY THAT WOULD BE A HUGE, HUGE DELAY.

AND THEN GETTING TO A SIDE IF THEY GOT THERE AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS CLOSE, ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTOOD. POLITICAL ROAD THERE.

WE HAVE A TEMPORARY EASEMENT LOCATED ADJACENT TO THAT SITE, CURRENTLY ROUTING PEOPLE AWAY FROM THAT BRIDGE ONCE THEY GET THAT PAVED.

HOW WILL THAT PROGRESS AS FAR AS ABANDONING THAT EASEMENT BACK TO THAT PROPERTY? RIGHT. SO PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR POLITICAL ROAD INCLUDES REMOVING THAT TEMPORARY DETOUR AND STOCKPILING THE DETOUR MATERIAL ON THE PROPERTY.

WHEN THE PROJECT WAS BID AND LET IT WAS BID THAT WE WERE BASICALLY GOING TO REMOVE THE FLEX BASE, STOCKPILE IT RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE REQUESTED THAT MATERIAL BE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THEIR PROPERTY ABOUT THREE, THREE MILES AWAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WASN'T WORKED INTO THE ORIGINAL COST SINCE THAT WAS BASICALLY STOCKPILED ON SITE IMMEDIATELY IN THE AREA.

I BELIEVE DENNIS IS IN THE PROCESS OF CONTACTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WELL, WILL THAT TRANSPORTATION COSTS BE ABSORBED OR SOME DEAL BETWEEN THEM AND THE THE THE CONTRACTOR OR I MEAN, THAT WON'T BE SOMETHING WE'LL BE PAYING, RIGHT? THAT COST WHILE YOU'RE STILL UNDER DEBATE OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, WE NEED TO GET BACK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW THE ONES THAT MADE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT THEY WANTED, THE LEFTOVER DEBRIS, FILL DIRT, ETC., THE CLEAN STUFF.

THEY SAID THEY WANTED IT, BUT IT WAS WHICH LEFT RIGHT THERE, WHICH OUR POSITION IS TO STOCKPILE IT ON THERE.

I THINK IF THEY WOULD LIKE IT TRANSFERRED TO A DIFFERENT PLACE THERE THEY HAVE, THEY

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SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE HAVING TO DISCUSS AMONG THEM BACK.

I'M GOING TO GET BACK WITH THE LANDOWNERS AND SEE WHAT THEIR FINAL STAND IS ON.

DO THEY STILL WANT TO DO WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THOUGH, DENNIS, IS WE'RE NOT REAL INTERESTED IN PAYING A CHANGE ORDER TO MOVE THAT PILE.

THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD.

I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE IF THAT CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR THAT.

I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT.

THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT, CORRECT? ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NOPE. JUST KEEP PLUGGING AWAY AT IT.

AND. AND DAVID AND DENNIS, YOU KNOW, MAKE ON THIS NEW WINTER ROAD PROJECT.

MAKE THEM STAY ON IT AND FINISH IT BEFORE THEY MOBILIZE AND MOVE OFF TO A NEW ONE.

THEY CAN. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[24. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of REQ0l 687 in the amount of $97,387.52 for WJC Construction Services, LLC for Payment Application #3 Harvey CDBG-DR lnfrasttucture Black Ankle Road. ]

DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF REQUISITION 01687 IN THE AMOUNT OF $97,387.52 FOR DEBBIE.

J.C. CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, LLC FOR PAYMENT APPLICATION NUMBER THREE CDBG D.R.

INFRASTRUCTURE BLACK ANKLE ROW.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE REQUISITION 01687.

SOME OF YOU HAVE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. WELL, MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

I OPPOSED HEARING THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 25 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL TO

[ 25. Discussion/Action to consider the approval to pay REQ01687 in the amount of $97,387.52 for WJC Construction Services. LLC.]

SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL PAPERS SAY I WAS HERE IN NINE.

MOTION CARRIES. EXCUSE ME.

[ 26. Discussion/Action to consider the approval to pay Enterprise invoice #2700 in the amount of $41.49821.]

THAT'S A WEIRD NUMBER.

WHAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER THERE, FOLKS? THAT'S FOR 98.21.

IT'S MISSING A DECIMAL.

ALL RIGHT. IN THE AMOUNT OF $41,498.21.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH PROOF.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 26.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION OF THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, I POSE HERE AND THEN MOTION CARRIES ITEM 27 DISCUSSION ACTION AND

[ 27. Discussion/Action to consider the approval to ratify the acceptance of the CAPCOG Interlocal Agreement with Caldwell County related to the implementation of the 2022 Solid Waste Program Grant ($24,850.00).]

DENNIS OK THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER.

ON MAY 20TH OF THIS YEAR, CAPE COD PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY A CONTRACT PERTAINING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOLID WASTE PROGRAM GRANT, WHICH WE'VE REFERRED TO PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO CONDUCT FIVE COMMUNITY CLEANUP EVENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

JUDGE HAYDEN SIGNED THE CONTRACT ON MAY 23RD AND RETURNED IT TO CAPE COD FOR THE APPROVAL SIGNATURE OF CAPE COD EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BETTY BOYCE.

AND ON MAY 26, CAPE COD ANNOUNCED THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE GRANT, WHICH ALLOWED FUNDING TO BE USED FOR THE CLEANUP EVENTS.

THE FIRST CLEANUP EVENT WAS LAST WEEK AND THE CONTRACTS WERE APPROVED PER GRANT DEPARTMENT GUIDELINES IN INSTANCES WHERE APPROVAL OF A GRANT IS NECESSARY BUT OCCURS BETWEEN COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETINGS.

THE JUDGE CAN SIGN THE CONTRACT, BUT RATIFICATION OF THE AGREEMENT MUST BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR TRANSPARENCY AND LEGAL CONCURRENCE OF THE CONTRACT. SO THEREFORE, I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE RATIFICATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF CAPE COD. TC SOLID WASTE PROGRAM GRANT PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 27.

I SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I OPPOSE HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ITEM 28 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO

[ 28. Discussion/Action to consider authorizing the County Judge to negotiate the use or acquisition of property located at 9675 State Highway 142 in Maxwell for use by Precinct 3 Justice of the Peace.]

OUR OUR LEASE IS COMING COMING DUE.

AND WE HAD HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF ACTUALLY

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OUR LEASE IS $2,000 AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE IS JUST PERMISSION FOR ME TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

OBVIOUSLY, I BRING THAT ANY NEGOTIATIONS BACK TO THE COURT, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WOULD BE ADVANTAGE TO BUYING THAT VERSUS LEASING NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO GET UP INTO THAT PRICE RANGE FOR THE LEASE AND TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER OFFICE OUT THERE MIGHT PROVE DIFFICULT. SO THAT'S I'M JUST LOOKING FOR AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COURT TO BEGIN TO NEGOTIATE THAT. AND WE BRING ANYTHING I NEGOTIATED BACK TO COURT FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 28.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY I POSE HERE AND THEN MOTION CARRIES ITEM 29 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING

[ 29. Discussion/ Action to consider authorizing the County Judge to negotiate a potential lease agreement for property near Lytton Springs for the use by the Justice of the Peace Precinct 4.]

AND THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE CONSTABLE AND S.O.

SATELLITE OFFICE.

THE AQUA IS IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING THAT BUILDING FROM POLONIA.

THEY HAVE NO PLANS FOR USING THAT BUILDING.

AS AQUA SHERIFF LANE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS VIA CITIZEN FROM PRECINCT FOUR, HE AND I WENT IN, WENT TO AN AQUA BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK, HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF LEASING OR BUYING THAT PROPERTY.

THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INTERESTED IN LEASING AND NOT SELLING IT, KEEPING THE ASSET, AND INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO LEASE IT AT A VERY REASONABLE RATE BECAUSE IT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD AND IT WOULD KEEP THEIR BUILDING OCCUPIED. SO THEY HAVE NOT CLOSED ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW, SOME THEY LAST WEEK THEY SAID IT WAS PROBABLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY FROM ANY KIND OF CLOSING TAKING PLACE.

SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT OR THE ONE AFTER THAT.

YOU GUYS AUTHORIZED ME TO DO THIS BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO BRING YOU SOMETHING BACK.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT MOVE.

THAT'S IN EVERY WAY IT DOES.

IT'S A RELATIVELY IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW BUILDING.

IT'S A NEW BUILDING.

IT GIVES US IT GIVES THE PEOPLE A PRECINCT FOR MORE OF A PRESENCE FOR THEIR JOB, FOR THEIR CONSTABLES, AND FOR THE S.O..

AND ALSO, WE'RE COMPLETELY.

THE ART OF SPACE PUT PEOPLE AND THAT WOULD FREE UP SOME SPACE IN THE IN THE IN THE BUILDING WHERE ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED.

BECAUSE IF WE HIRE ANOTHER PERSON, I LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WE CONTRACTED WITH MILES IN AND HE SITS AT THE LITTLE TABLE IN MY OFFICE AND DOES HIS WORK BECAUSE THERE'S LITERALLY NOWHERE TO PUT HIM.

SO I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT MOVE IF WE CAN NEGOTIATE A REASONABLE RATE AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE COURT.

IF YOU GUYS MEET IN NEGOTIATED OF TRIP, HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 29.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

I POSED HERE IN NINE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 30 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF

[ 30. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of the Texas Association of Counties Health and Employee Benefits Pool (TAC HEBP) for FY 2022-2033. ]

I THINK THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS.

TWO OF THE OPTIONS, I THINK SAVE US A WHOPPING 20 BUCKS AND INCREASE DEDUCTIBLES.

YEAH, ANOTHER OPTION IS THE ONE WE HAVE NOW.

SO THOSE ARE YOUR THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE TO PONDER TO ME.

IT'S A NO BRAINER, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO Y'ALL.

YEAH. THE AMOUNT OF SAVINGS VERSUS WHAT IT DOES TO THE TO THE EMPLOYEES IS.

I'M NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.

NO, I THINK IT'S VERY NEGLIGIBLE, NEGLIGIBLE SAVINGS IN IT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A WE'LL, OF COURSE, DISCUSS THIS ROUNDLY HERE IN A FEW MINUTES IN OUR WORKSHOP. BUT WITH INFLATION BEING WHERE IT IS, DROPPING A DROP IN A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE ON OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW WOULD BE TOUGH.

IT WAS LIKE $11 DIFFERENCE FOR ME LEAVING IT WITH THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I HAVE EMPLOYEE IN CHILDREN.

SO YES, IT WAS LIKE AN $11 DIFFERENCE JUST LEAVING IT WHERE IT'S NOT.

YEAH. AND I WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND DEDUCTIBLE THING, YOU KNOW HAVING JUST GONE

[01:55:02]

YEAH. SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY DISCUSSION.

IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE STICKING WITH OUR CURRENT POLICY.

BEFORE I MAKE THAT MOTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE BOB DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING THE DONATION TOWARD THE DEPENDENT COVERAGE? OR IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT THAT WON'T BE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? THAT'LL PROBABLY BE.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT AS IS FOR NOW.

BUT DURING THE WORKSHOP.

OKAY, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD, EZZY. GO AHEAD, EZZY.

SORRY, I THINK WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO IS THERE'S ON THE FORM THAT TAX CENTER'S A PART THAT SAYS WHAT WE PAY FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY AND THEN WHAT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS FOR THEIR DEPENDENT AND SO FORTH.

SO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO PAY OR PAY TOWARDS THAT.

I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING THEM.

HOW MUCH? ABOUT 15%, YES.

SO WE NEED TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT THE SAME.

I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SAME DEDUCTION FOR DEPENDENT COVERAGE FOR LIKE THE CHILD, I WOULD HAVE TO RAISE OUR PARTICIPATION AT THE 21% FROM 15 FROM 15 TO 21%.

IT'S BE BET $42 PER EMPLOYEE.

YEAH, THAT'S AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT WHAT THAT EQUATES TO IS A PRETTY HEFTY NUMBER.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO TO KEEP THE BURDEN.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE YOU WALK OUT OF H-E-B AND YOU GOT TWO SACKS OF GROCERIES AND YOU JUST SPEND 150 BUCKS.

AND WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT WORK FOR US, THAT WE WORK NEXT TO EVERY DAY THAT ARE STRUGGLING JUST TO JUST TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

AND I JUST I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY MORE BURDEN ON THEM THAN WE HAVE TO.

DIDN'T I SEE ON HERE SOMEWHERE? IT WAS, YEAH, OUR RATE INCREASE WAS 8%, 8% OVER THE LAST YEAR.

JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT NUMBER, THAT'S ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. IT'S A BIG, BIG NUMBER.

YEAH. IF EMPLOYEE AND CHILD, THEIR PARTICIPATION COST OF $159.

NOW THE PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO BE A BIT LESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOUSE AND FAMILY COVERAGE, BUT THAT'S VERY FEW.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET PROBABLY A LARGE AS LARGE OF A PERCENTAGE, BUT IT'LL STILL BE THE $42. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IF WE LEAVE IT ASIDE, I'M INCLINED TO LEAVE IT THE SAME.

OKAY. SO IS THAT A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO LEAVE THE BENEFITS THE SAME.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SAY IT. WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I POST HERE AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANKS, BOB. ADAM 31 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF 2022 CLAIM FOR TEXAS

[ 31. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of 2022 claim from Texas Comptroller's request for unclaimed Property Capital Credits.]

I THINK THAT WE GOT ABOUT $54,000 BACK FROM THEM, WHICH WE USE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHERE DSP MONEY COMES FROM, FOR INSTANCE.

SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO TO APPROVE THE 2022 CLAIM.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY WE WOULDN'T.

GO AHEAD, BARBARA. NOPE, GO AHEAD.

I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM 31.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SAY WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSED HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 32 DISCUSSION ACTION TO

[32. Discussion/Action to consider public Streets and Drainage in Monte Sagrado Subdivision as complete and ready to begin the two year performance period of said improvements as evidenced by a maintenance bond in the amount of $179,900.00 for maintenance security.]

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DONALD? THIS IS THAT SUBDIVISION JUST NORTH OF LULING ON ROGERS ON ROCKY ROAD.

YEAH. YEAH. AND YOU AND YEAH.

YOU KNOW.

WELL IT IS. YEAH.

NO WAY NORTH.

IT'S IN THE CITY. YEAH.

THAT'S RIGHT OFF KIND OF BOULDERS 21 AND OFF A ROCKY ROAD.

[02:00:02]

HAS THAT GONE ANY FURTHER? I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR, FIND OUT WHETHER IT'S THE CITIES OR IF IT'S OURS.

WHEN THEY IF THEY ANNEXED IT AFTER 2015, THEN IT'S ACTUALLY THEIRS, RIGHT? CHASE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS? SORRY, I THINK YOU WERE ON THE CALL THAT DAY.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS? THIS WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT CONTRIBUTING 100,000 TO IMPROVEMENTS ON ROCKY ROAD. OH, YES.

SO THE THE IMPROVEMENTS IT THERE IS A ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF UPLAND. IT COVERS IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD, BUT ONLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE ROAD HAD BEEN ACTUALLY ANNEXED OR WAS NOT ANNEXED BY THE CITY. I THINK THE READING OF THE STATUTE IS THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANNEXED.

THE QUESTION IS, IS REALLY BEFORE THE COUNTY OR THE COURT IS IS THE IS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIND A GOOD DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE FUNDS OR NOT? AND THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF JUST WHERE WE ARE.

I WOULD THINK. ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON ACCEPTING THE IMPROVEMENTS IN IN THIS SUBDIVISION UNTIL THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SECURED.

YOU KNOW, HOW IT GETS DISTRIBUTED OR WHERE IT GETS SPENT ON ROCKY ROAD CAN BE WORKED OUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

BUT BUT I, I THINK AS SOON AS WE ACCEPT THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPER MIGHT MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANOTHER MEETING SINCE WE HAD THAT, THAT MEETING.

SO DO YOU WANT TO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM OK.

AND TILL THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION THEN.

AND I'M NOT ABOUT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL.

WHEN WE HAVE ONE THAT'S NOT CAME THROUGH, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT LIKE THIS WENT THROUGH THE CITY OF ULIN.

I'M RACKING MY BRAIN LIKE I DON'T REMEMBER A MONTE GRANATO, YOU KNOW.

CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT ATTACHED TO OUR BACKUP SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, THIS WAS LIKE OK, BUT I DID FIND IT NATURALLY A LITTLE BIT WHEN THEY'RE IN THE CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF LULING, IF IT'S IN THEIR TJS, IT GOES THROUGH THEM.

THEN WHEN IT COMES TO US, IF WE DON'T, THE NAME IS A NAME, BUT I THINK IT'D BE NICE THAT WE COULD SEE THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF.

YEAH, I AGREE. NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER TERRY AS WELL.

YEAH, I'LL LET THAT MONEY GO.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TERRIO TO TABLE ITEM 32 UNTIL NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY I WAS HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES ITEM 33 DISCUSSION ACTION AND CONSIDER THE CANCELATION OF THE ESTATES OF

[ 33. Discussion/Action to consider the cancellation of the Estates of Hartland Ranch Subdivision located off Borcher Loop (CR 108).]

AT A PUBLIC HEARING AT LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT.

SO HERE WE ARE. AND GOOD MORNING.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I SPOKE WITH SCOTT MILLER THIS MORNING.

THE FEES STILL WERE NEVER PAID FOR THE CANCELATION AND ALSO TO SCOTT AND TIM HAS TO ACTUALLY CHANGE SOME OF THE WORDING.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR IT TO BE TABLED AT THIS TIME UNTIL SOMETIME IN JULY.

OKAY. YOU ARE LIKE FIRST COMMISSIONERS, COURT, SECOND WINNERS, POORLY, SECOND, SECOND. YES, SIR.

SO COMMISSIONERS, I MOVED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THIS THIS ITEM UNTIL THE SECOND REGULARLY REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN JULY.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

A SECOND FAVOR.

SAY I, I POSE HERE AND THEN MOTION CARRIES ITEM 34 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE

[ 34. Discussion/ Action to consider the approval of the Preliminary Plat for Meadow View Estates consisting of 45 residential lots on approxjmately 56.09 acres located on Bugtussle Lane & Mineral Springs Rd.]

AT THIS TIME I'M JUST LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE COURT FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO FINAL PLAT.

YOU'LL SEE IN THE ATTACHMENTS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COLLECTED.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED PROBABLY CLOSE TO A MONTH AGO, BUT THEY DID NOT PAY THE FEES UNTIL RECENTLY.

SO IT'S JUST NOW ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FROM INTERVIEW ESTATES. IS THIS IN PRECINCT THREE?

[02:05:01]

YES, SIR. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 34.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, I THANK YOU BOTH HERE.

AND THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 36 WHERE HE DID 35 DISCUSSION ACTION AND CONSIDER THE

[ 36. Discussion/Action to consider the approval to ratify a contract between the Caldwell County and Billboard Source, Inc., for advertising space displaying contact information for the Environmental Enforcement unit.]

YEAH. IF HE BROUGHT LUNCH, MY MINE IS -50 5 MINUTES.

WE'LL MAKE A FORMAL PRESENTATION AT ANOTHER SESSION, BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO RATIFY A CONTRACT FOR OUTDOOR ADVERTISING WITH LAMAR.

WE HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM AND AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE A BILLBOARD READY TO GO INTO PLACE BEGINNING ON JUNE THE 20TH.

ON THE FRONT PAGE, YOU'RE SEEING WHAT THE BILLBOARD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU'RE SEEING WHERE IT'S GOING.

A VERY NICE SPOT THERE AT FM 20 AND 183.

THEY ESTIMATE THAT 75,000 PEOPLE PER WEEK ARE EYEBALLING THAT BILLBOARD.

AND SO OUR UNIT, OF COURSE, IS RUN BY PEOPLE WHO SEE AND REPORT ILLEGAL DUMPING.

AND WE THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD INVESTMENT AND WE ASK YOU RESPECTFULLY TO RATIFY THE CONTRACT. HEY, NEAL, WOULD YOU SPEAK REAL QUICKLY TO WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM TO 6820, WHERE IT CAME FROM, WHAT THEY DO, THEY PRICE IT OUT PER WEEK FOR A FOUR WEEK SESSION. SO IT'S $960 BASICALLY FOR FOUR WEEKS.

AND THEN WE'RE RUNNING IT FOR 24 WEEKS FROM JUNE THE 20TH UNTIL DECEMBER THE FOURTH.

AND SO THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO THEIR TYPICAL CONTRACTS.

AND WE LOOKED AT REAGAN, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES BEFORE, HOPEFULLY MAKING THIS DECISION.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I LIKE THIS DEAL.

I DO, TOO.

NOT REALLY SUPER RELATED TO THIS, BUT I THINK FOLKS CAN GET THEIR HEAD AROUND ILLEGAL DUMPING BECAUSE YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. WE WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY CONDITION ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC NUISANCE VEHICLES, SEWER ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT THAT ARE ALSO NOT LEGAL.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THE BILLBOARDS, BUT.

BUT IS THERE A FLIER OR.

WE GOT TO BE WE'VE GOT TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL NOT TO GET TOO FAR OFF THE ITEM.

ALL RIGHT. BY THE WAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE DO HAVE BROCHURES AND FLIERS SPECIFICALLY ON PUBLIC NUISANCE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S I THINK WHEN YOU READ IT ABOUT REPORT ILLEGAL DUMPING AND YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT IS JUST OVERLOADED, THAT'S ILLEGAL DUMPING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S STILL EARLY. THAT IS CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONTRACT BETWEEN CALDWELL COUNTY AND BILLBOARD SOURCE INC SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND CHECK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.

5 MINUTES OR LESS.

I'M AND I'M. I'M AMAZED I DIDN'T THINK THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T RESIST.

I'M 37.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WILL WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE HEARING THAT MOTION CARRIES WERE ADJOURNED AT 1109.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT MAYBE A TEN MINUTE RECESS.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. LET EVERYBODY KIND OF CATCH UP ON THEIR PHONE CALLS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AT 1124 BUDGET WORKSHOP.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.