Sep 27, 2022 Commissioners Court

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

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WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER TUESDAY, THE 27TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022 AT 9 A.M..

COMMISSIONER ROLAND, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION, PLEASE? OUR FATHER, GOD WHICH ART GOD IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS THE CHRIST FATHER IT'S ONCE AGAIN THAT THIS WEAK AND HUMBLE SERVANT IS STANDING HERE JUST TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US ALL.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR GOING OUT AND OUR COMING IN.

THANK YOU FOR AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO IS FOR GOOD.

LORD, I WANT TO JUST PRAY ONE MORE TIME THAT WE GET SOME RAIN.

WE REALLY NEED IT, BUT, LORD, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT BEST.

THESE ARE ALL BLESSINGS.

WE PRAY IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME.

AMEN.

OKAY, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY, COMMISSIONERS?

[Announcements.]

OKAY, MS. YELTON.

I'D LIKE TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE MCMAHON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING THEIR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER THIS SATURDAY.

THEY'VE CHANGED IT UP. IT'S NOT BARBECUE.

IT'S HAMBURGER PLATES AND HOT DOG PLATES AND DESSERTS.

SO IF YOU CAN COME OUT AND SUPPORT THEM, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THE TIME, I BELIEVE, IS FROM FIVE TO LIKE SEVEN, AND THEY'LL HAVE A SILENT AUCTION.

COMMISSIONER THERIOT. NO REPORTS.

COMMISSIONER ROLAND? YES, SIR.

I DID GO TO [INAUDIBLE] LAST PAST WEEKEND AND THEY HAD A GREAT, GREAT SHOW.

EVERYTHING WAS REALLY NICE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SQUARE, SAME THING, WENT THERE SATURDAY.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

THAT WAS A I MEAN, LITERALLY ALMOST STANDING ROOM ONLY ON TWO SIDES OF THE SQUARE.

WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING THE CONSUL GENERAL FROM MEXICO, AND THAT WAS IN HIS WIFE AND THAT WAS NICE.

SO WE REALLY ENJOYED OURSELVES SATURDAY NIGHT, TOO.

IT WAS GREAT. STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ME. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I JUST FILED THE APPROVED BUDGET WITH TERESA THIS MORNING, SO I WILL BE SENDING OUT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THE BUDGET SO THEY CAN PRINT OUT THEIR BUDGET, AND IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY CAN CALL ME OR DANNY.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS. A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I WANT TO REMIND THE COURT THAT OUR FINAL COMMUNITY CLEANUP EVENT IS COMING UP OCTOBER THE EIGHTH IN MAXWELL AT 9675 HIGHWAY 142, SATURDAY THE EIGHTH FROM 8 A.M.

TO 12 NOON OR UNTIL THE BINS ARE FULL, AND THEN SECONDLY, THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMUNITY SERVICES FOUNDATION BOARD MET THIS LAST WEEK.

WE APPROVED FOUR MORE GRANTS.

WE GAVE KINGDOM RESCUE AND LULING $15,000 TO SUPPORT ANIMAL RESCUE TRAPPING PROGRAM AND EDUCATION OUTREACH.

THE CALDWELL COUNTY CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY COMMUNITY MINISTRIES FOOD PANTRY RECEIVED OUR LARGEST GRANT TO DATE $22,000 TO PURCHASE FOOD SUPPLIES, TWO FREEZERS, COMMERCIAL SCALE AND GARDEN BED IMPROVEMENTS.

THE MARTINDALE COMMUNITY LIBRARY $7,216 FOR SECURITY CAMERAS, LIBRARY SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR RESOURCES, AND TO LOCKHART FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH FEEDING LOCKHART PROGRAM $7,704 TO PURCHASE A REFRIGERATOR, FREEZER, OVENS AND DISHWASHERS.

TO DATE, THE FOUNDATION HAS AWARDED TO 18 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS $156,341.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS AND REMIND EVERYONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME WHERE YOU LIVE, AND THEY HAVE 4 MINUTES.

[Citizens' Comments.]

GOOD MORNING AGAIN. GOOD MORNING.

BYRON FREDERICK, 2353 FM 1185 HERE TODAY AGAIN AGAINST THE PROPOSAL FROM THE LANDFILL ON THEIR HOURS, AND I WOULD SAY TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BEWARE OF STRANGERS BEARING GIFTS GREEN GROUP CAME IN GREEN GROUP HOLDINGS CAME INTO THIS COMMUNITY NINE YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE BEARING GIFTS AND PROMISES AND THROWING MONEY AROUND LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

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WHERE ARE THOSE JOBS? I REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN A WHOLE LOT OF COMING OUT OF THAT.

THE COUNTY, UNFORTUNATELY RECOGNIZED THIS PLOY, AND EVEN WHEN THEY WERE LAUGHINGLY TOLD BY GREEN GROUP HOLDINGS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A DUMP IN, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. THE COUNTY DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT AND THEY PASSED THE SITING ORDINANCE THAT SAID, NO, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS.

THEN WHEN GREEN GROUP HOLDINGS CAME FORTH WITH WHAT THEY CALLED A HOST AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A TERRIBLE DOCUMENT, WOULD HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE FOR THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY, FORTUNATELY TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND SAID NO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THEN JUDGE HADEN FINALLY SAID, WELL, OKAY, LET'S SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS.

THEY CAME HERE. DAVID GREEN STOOD RIGHT HERE AT THIS PODIUM AND MADE PROMISES GOING TO NO END AND THEN DIED.

NEVER HAPPENED. NOTHING EVER CAME ABOVE IT, YOU KNOW.

SO HERE THEY ARE AGAIN.

NOW THEY NEED THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THEM FOR THEIR PROPOSAL, TO INCREASE THEIR HOURS, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNTY.

THEY WANT THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM SO THEY CAN GO TO THE TCEQ AND SAY THE COUNTY IS 100% BEHIND US ON THIS.

NOW, WHEN GREEN GROUP HOLDINGS GOT THEIR PERMIT FIVE YEARS AGO, THE BIG QUESTION BEFORE THE TCEQ WAS THE HOURS AND THE TCEQ SAID, NO, YOU CAN GO WITH STANDARD HOURS IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT.

THEY SAID, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL TAKE THE STANDARD HOURS.

NOW THEY'RE BACK.

THEY NEED THESE HOURS.

NOT WHAT DAVID GREEN SAYS BECAUSE OF GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS NEEDING TO DUMP GARBAGE EARLY IN THE MORNING, THEY NEED IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET A LEG UP ON THEIR COMPETITORS. IF YOU DO A LITTLE GOOGLE SEARCH, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT OTHER AREA DUMPS IN THIS AREA WON'T HAVE THESE EXTENDED HOURS.

MESQUITE LANDFILL IN NEW [INAUDIBLE] HOURS, 7 TO 5 TDS, 7 TO 5.

TRAVIS COUNTY DOWN THERE ON 812 7 TO 4:45.

AUSTIN COMMUNITY OUT ON 290, 7 TO 5.

WILLIAMSON COUNTY 7 TO 5.

YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LIST AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY THAT.

SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY BEING ASKED HERE? DAVID GREEN STOOD UP HERE AND SAYS WE NEED THIS BECAUSE OF THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT.

IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A LEG UP ON THEIR COMPETITORS.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY? HOW DO YOU SURVIVE? FIRST OF ALL, YOU GET A BIG CONTRACT WITH THE MUNICIPALITY.

THOSE CONTRACTS ARE ALL TIED UP FOR RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOING TO BE YEARS BEFORE THOSE ARE AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN OPEN STREAM OPEN TO THEM.

SECOND OPTION THEY HAVE OPEN TO THEM IS TO GET 18 WHEELER LOADS OF GARBAGE, TONS AND TONS AND TONS OF GARBAGE COMING IN FROM TRANSFER STATIONS, I.E.

OUT OF THE HOUSTON SHIP CHANNEL OR PASADENA OR SOME OTHER LARGE CITY WHERE THEY CAN GET THOSE CONTRACTS AND BRING THOSE 18 WHEELERS IN UP TEN AND THROUGH LULING AND THROUGH LOCKHART TO THE DUMP.

NOW THEN, IF THEY HAVE HOURS OF 5:00 IN THE MORNING TO SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE AT NIGHT, WHATEVER THEY FINALLY DECIDE TO DO, THAT GIVES THEM A HUGE WINDOW OF TIME THAT THOSE TRUCKS CAN COME IN TO THEIR FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO OTHER FACILITIES.

COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

OKAY, SO THEY'RE ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS THEN TO SELL OUT YOUR VOTE FOR MINIMAL RETURNS AND I MEAN MINIMAL RETURNS.

YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS THEY OFFER, THEY'LL GIVE US 30 CUBIC YARDS AND THE DUMPSTER AND A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEY SAY, AND IF WE DON'T DO IT RIGHT, WE WANT TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER CHANGE FOR TEN YEARS.

WELL, IF THEY DO, THEN THEY SAY WE'LL PAY YOU $12,000, AND THE ONLY TROUBLE WITH THAT IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WRITE YOU A CHECK.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM TO COURT, AND HOW MUCH WORTH IS OUR TIME, OUR ATTORNEY'S TIME FOR $12,000? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FILE THAT AND THEY KNOW IT.

IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY? THE REST HAVE 10 SECONDS LEFT.

OKAY, IT'S GOING TO HURT YOUR RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NOISE, THE TRASH, THE LIGHTS CONSTANTLY.

I ASK YOU TODAY JUST AS I ASKED LAST TIME, WHEN THIS MOTION IS MADE, THAT IT BE MET WITH PURE CRICKETS, PURE SILENCE.

THIS MOTION SHOULD BE NOT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE SECONDED IT, AND IT SURELY SHOULDN'T BE VOTED ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SAMUEL MALDONADO.

GOOD MORNING. WE LIVE ONE HOUR, I MEAN, ONE MILE AWAY FROM THE DUMP, AND WE DON'T SEE NO, NO TRASH ANYWHERE.

WE DON'T SMELL NOTHING BAD.

AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT A LOT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE STREETS.

YOU KNOW, WE OWN A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS AND IT'S GOING TO HELP US OUT A LOT ON SATURDAYS, TOO.

SO WE COULD GO DUMP THERE.

IT WOULD BENEFIT US A LOT. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.

OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SUSAN LANE.

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I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS KEEPS COMING UP.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE HOURS WERE SET EARLY ON TO BE 7 TO 5.

I FORGET WHAT THEY ARE EXACTLY, BUT 7 TO 5 FOR THE OPERATING HOURS, AND WE KEEP I KEEP ON COMING HERE AND PROTESTING. I KEEP ON TRYING TO GET YOU ALL TO SEE THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT DUMP OPERATING ANY MORE THAN THOSE HOURS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

PEOPLE ARE AT HOME.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HEARING, SMELLING, SEEING THE LIGHTS AT NIGHT.

ALL OF THAT IS JUST IF YOU HAD IT NEXT TO YOU, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE ILLEGAL DUMPING IS CONTINUING ON [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL, AS IT HAS BEEN BEFORE, THE DUMP AND NOW AFTER THE DUMP.

I GUESS I JUST FEEL LIKE THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN EARLY ON.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS PROTESTING FOR NINE YEARS, AND I JUST HAVE BEEN HERE IN THIS COUNTY FOR A BIT MORE THAN A YEAR, AND I'M PRETTY UNHAPPY ABOUT HAVING TO COME DOWN HERE ALL THE TIME AND SAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, NO, WE DON'T NEED THOSE EXTENDED HOURS.

AND THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME THAT JUST SAID THEY DIDN'T I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THEY THAT THEY DON'T MIND THE DUMP, BUT I HAD WENT AROUND ALL MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL AND THERE WERE I THINK I TOOK 10 TO 15 SIGNATURES TO THE TCEQ TO PROTEST PEOPLE THAT SIGNED IT, AND I SPOKE WITH THEM AND THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR OWN OPINIONS.

IT'S NOT LIKE I SWAYED THEM ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY EXTRA HOURS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I HOPE YOU'LL LISTEN TO US.

WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE VOTING YOU IN.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MONETARILY TO OFFER YOU, BUT WE DO HAVE VOTES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LINDA HINKLE.

LINDA HINKLE, 1109 SOUTH MAIN STREET.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LANDFILL SITUATION.

I WAS ON THE HOST AGREEMENT COMMITTEE AND THEY HAD A LOT TO OFFER.

THEY'VE NOW OFFERED THE CITIZENS OF CALDWELL COUNTY, NOT JUST THE CITY OF LOCKHART, TO BE ABLE TO BRING SIX CUBIC YARDS, WHICH IS A PICKUP LOAD AT THE CAB SQUARED IF YOU HAD A SQUARE TO BE ABLE TO DUMP ONCE A WEEK, I UNDERSTAND, FOR FREE.

THEY WILL ALSO OFFER THE COUNTY LIKE WE'RE HAVING THIS LANDFILL THING.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE DUMPSTERS OUT FOR THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO OFFER THOSE TO THE COUNTY.

I BELIEVE IT WAS A MINIMAL CHARGE OR NO CHARGE FOUR TIMES A YEAR, JUST LIKE YOU'RE GETTING IT RIGHT NOW.

THERE WERE MATTRESSES DUMPED THIS LAST WEEK.

SEVERAL PLACES AROUND CALDWELL COUNTY.

SATURDAY IS ABOUT THE ONLY TIME THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE OFF HALF A DAY IN THE MORNING CAN COME, YOU KNOW, TAKE THEIR UNWANTED GARBAGE TO THE LANDFILL.

IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO CREEDMOOR PLUS, I'VE TAKEN STUFF TO CREEDMOOR.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

PEOPLE JUST THE COMMON PERSON JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE CASH A LOT OF TIMES.

SO THEY'LL DUMP IT OUT ON THE PLACE RATHER THAN GO TAKE IT IN AND GET IT, YOU KNOW, GET IT IN A SANITARY LANDFILL.

[INAUDIBLE] ROAD'S A PRETTY HOT PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S MOVING RAPIDLY AND THE PRICES ARE NOT BAD.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HURT THE REAL ESTATE A WHOLE BUNCH.

I HAVE FAMILY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LANDFILL LITERALLY ON 1185, AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY VOICED AN OPINION ON LIGHTS OR NOISE, AND I KNOW THAT THEY QUIETEN THOSE TRUCKS DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BACKUP [INAUDIBLE].

SO I THINK THEY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE, BUT I'M FOR IT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE COUNTY.

IT'S HERE.

WE COULD EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE IF THEY HAD MAYBE MORE EXTENDED HOURS, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD.

SOME OF THE HOST AGREEMENT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN GOOD, BUT IT'S A START TO GET THE COUNTY INVOLVED AND NOT JUST THE CITY.

IT'S HERE TO STAY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A QUARTER OF A MILE OFF THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND OUT AND SEEING

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SO I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S JUST MY DEAL WITH IT.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TRASH TO DUMP, BUT I SEE A LOT OF IT IN THE COUNTY, SEE IT ON FACEBOOK.

WE'VE CREATED AN ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THAT, BASICALLY, AND I'M HOPING WE COULD CLEAN UP THE COUNTY AND MAKE IT PROUD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S HERE TO STAY AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN CHANGE ABOUT THAT, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL GET SOME BENEFITS FROM IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CLAY [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CLAY [INAUDIBLE].

I'M WITH MOTOROLA. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 33, WHICH IS YOUR RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, MOTOROLA HAS HAD A 50 YEAR PARTNERSHIP WITH CALDWELL COUNTY.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU GUYS A RADIO SYSTEM THAT YOU GUYS CAN RELY ON AND TRUST.

FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I'VE PERSONALLY MET WITH MOTOROLA 17 YEARS AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY IN MY EARLY STAGES OF MY CAREER UP UNTIL RECENT.

Y'ALL ARE PART OF THE GATRRS, THE GREATER AUSTIN TRAVIS REGIONAL RADIO NETWORK, WHICH IS A RADIO NETWORK THAT'S BUILT UP OF MOST OF THE COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY, ALL OF THE ESDS, BASTROP COUNTY, ALL ESDS.

TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, MOST OF THE STATE AGENCIES AS WELL.

LOOKING AT THE ITEM NUMBER 33, IF YOU CHOOSE TOTO NO LONGER BE A PART OF THE RADIO SYSTEM, IT'S GOING TO CREATE SOME SEPARATION IN THOSE AGENCIES.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM.

IS IT THE RADIO SYSTEM HAS GOT IT HAS GOT SOME MICROWAVE BACKHAUL ISSUES, BUT THE SYSTEM ITSELF, THE RADIO, THE EQUIPMENT OF THE TOWERS, IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL STATE OF THE ART.

IT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BUY MULTIMILLION DOLLAR NETWORK.

IF YOU WERE TO BUY A NEW RADIO SYSTEM TODAY, IT'S WHAT WE WOULD SELL YOU TODAY.

IT'S A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR TOP OF THE LINE RADIO NETWORK.

THE ISSUES ARE IN SOME OF THE CONNECTIVITY BACKHAUL THAT CONNECTS THE MOUNTAIN SITE BACK TO THE CITY OF LOCKHART SITE, AND I FEEL LIKE AN EVALUATION TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO CONNECT BACK WOULD BE A LOT MORE FEASIBLE THAN THE COST THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON COMMISSIONERS COURT TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE RADIO SYSTEM.

IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT'S THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER.

SO AGAIN, I'M HERE, I'LL STAY HERE, I'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS UNDER THE ITEM.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS TODAY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

MARISSA PERALES.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MARISSA PERALES, AND I RESIDE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EPIC, AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ITEMS 34, 36 AND 37.

WE'LL SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT I WANTED TO START BY GIVING YOU A BRIEF STATUS UPDATE OF THE APPEAL OF TCEQ'S DECISION TO ISSUE A LANDFILL PERMIT TO 130 ENVIRONMENTAL PARK, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE LANDFILL SITE IS PROHIBITED BY THE COUNTY SITING ORDINANCE.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE COURT OF APPEALS IN AUSTIN AFFIRMED TCEQ'S DECISION TO GRANT THAT PERMIT, BUT WE FILED A PETITION WITH THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT, AND ONLY RECENTLY THE SUPREME COURT ALERTED ALL OF THE PARTIES THAT THEY WANT FULL LEGAL BRIEFING REGARDING ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE PRESENTED ON APPEAL, INCLUDING THE ISSUE OF WHETHER TCEQ WAS WRONG WHEN IT ISSUED A LANDFILL PERMIT FOR A SITE PROHIBITED BY YOUR SITING ORDINANCE.

THE COUNTY IS NOT A FORMAL PARTY TO THE APPEAL, AS YOU KNOW, BUT THE COUNTY'S CONSTITUENTS, THE ONES WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THE LANDFILL, WHO LIVE, DRIVE BY, BREATHE AND TOLERATE THAT LANDFILL EVERY DAY ARE PARTIES TO THE APPEAL, AND THEY'RE RELYING ON AND DEFENDING THE COUNTY'S LAWFULLY ENACTED ORDINANCE TO PROTECT THEIR INTERESTS. AND THE COUNTY ALSO BENEFITS FROM THOSE EFFORTS.

SO YOU SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THEM, NOT UNDERMINING THEM.

BACK IN MARCH 2020, I HAPPENED TO ATTEND A CAPCOG MEETING DURING WHICH JUDGE HADEN COMMENTED THAT TC WAS WRONG TO IGNORE THE COUNTY SITING ORDINANCE AND ISSUE A LANDFILL PERMIT TO 130 EP.

130 EP HAD SUBMITTED ONLY A PARTIAL APPLICATION WITH ABOUT 100 DEFICIENCIES, AND JUDGE HADEN, YOU CORRECTLY EXPLAINED THAT TCEQ WAS WRONG TO IGNORE THE ORDINANCE BASED ON A DEFICIENT PARTIAL APPLICATION, BUT JUDGE HADEN EXPLAINED TO THE CAPE COD THAT THE COUNTY HAD STOPPED FIGHTING THE PERMIT AND DIDN'T APPEAL THE DECISION BECAUSE THE COUNTY JUST

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AS HE PUT IT.

BASED ON MY NOTES, CALDWELL IS A SMALL, POOR COUNTY AND THE LANDFILL COMPANY IS A LARGE COMPANY WITH DEEP POCKETS, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THOSE SENTIMENTS, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU NOT TO CAVE TO THE LANDFILL COMPANY NOW.

MAYBE THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CONTINUE THIS FIGHT, BUT THUS FAR THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT WITH THE TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY.

SO DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY.

AS FOR THE AGREEMENT WITH 130 EP AND THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE EXPANDED OPERATING HOURS, I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT BENEFITS THE COUNTY IS TRULY GETTING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT.

AT THE VERY LEAST, CONSULT WITH YOUR ATTORNEYS BEFORE ENTERING INTO IT.

ASK HOW IT'S ENFORCEABLE.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT.

FOR INSTANCE, THE TERM IS SET TO BEGIN AFTER THE FIRST SATURDAY OF OPERATION UNDER THE APPROVED AMENDED PERMIT.

ANY IDEA WHEN THAT WILL BE? THERE HAVE BEEN CONTESTED CASE HEARING REQUESTS SUBMITTED TO THE TCEQ AND IF ANY OF THOSE ARE GRANTED, IF EVEN ONE IS GRANTED, THAT'S A SIX MONTH CONTESTED CASE HEARING BEFORE IT EVER EVEN GETS TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE IT GETS TO THE TCEQ COMMISSIONERS, AND EVEN THEN THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE TC COULD DENY THE EXPANDED OPERATING HOURS.

THEY COULD GRANT IT IN PART MAYBE JUST EXPANDING THE HOURS ON WEEKDAYS, BUT MAYBE NOT ON SATURDAYS.

IF TCEQ DOES ANYTHING OTHER THAN GRANT 130 EP'S APPLICATION AS IT HAS REQUESTED, THEN 130 EP HAS NO OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. THEY'RE NEVER TRIGGERED.

EP NEVER HAS TO PERFORM ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY WILL HAVE ALREADY SOLD OUT THE SUPPORTS AT 130 EP, AND THAT'S BECAUSE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT THE COUNTY MUST PERFORM ITS OBLIGATIONS BEFORE THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT EVEN STARTS BEFORE 130 EP HAS TO PERFORM ANYTHING AT ALL FOR THE COUNTY.

DOES THAT SEEM FAIR TO YOU, TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS? TAKE A LOOK AT THE REASONS BEING OFFERED FOR THE EXPANDED OPERATING HOURS AS EXPLAINED IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO AVOID PEAK MORNING TRAFFIC TIMES FOR STUDENTS TRAVELING TO SCHOOL. IF LANDFILL TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS OCCURRING AT 7 A.M.

BECAUSE OF STUDENTS TRAVELING TO NEARBY SCHOOLS, THEN THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THE LANDFILL WAS NOT AND IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES.

THAT'S WHY YOU WERE RIGHT TO PASS THAT SITING ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THE SOLUTION HERE IS NOT TO EXPAND.

IF I COULD JUST HAVE A SECOND TO WRAP UP.

THE SOLUTION HERE IS NOT TO EXPAND THE OPERATING HOURS OF AN INCOMPATIBLE LANDFILL, BUT RATHER TO SEEK MORE PROTECTIVE MEASURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND YOU DO THAT BY PARTICIPATING IN THE TCEQ PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

TOM VON.

YOU'D LIKE TO WAIT TILL THE ITEM COMES UP.

THEY CALLED YOU FOUR CITIZENS COMMENTS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT TILL THE ITEM COMES UP? OKAY, HE'LL WAIT TILL THE ITEM COMES UP.

NO MORE CITIZENS COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVED A CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY CALDWELL COUNTY FY 20 2021 FINANCIAL AUDIT REPORT.

[PRESENTATION ]

I'M FROM THE FIRM OF ARMSTRONG VON AND ASSOCIATES, AND WE ARE REVIEWING THE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 AUDIT.

I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A DELAY IN THE AUDIT WHEN WE CAME TO AUDIT IN FEBRUARY.

THERE WERE NO BANK RECONCILIATIONS PERFORMED FOR THE YEAR THUS, WE REQUIRED YOU TO RECONCILE THE BANK STATEMENTS BEFORE WE BEGAN THE AUDIT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE ONE OF THE AUDIT, THIS IS YOUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT AFTER ADJUSTMENTS, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY STATED AND MATERIALLY CORRECT.

WE PERFORMED 27 ADJUSTMENTS ON PAGE FOUR IS THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS, AND IT'S BASICALLY FROM YOUR

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IT INCLUDES ALL OF YOUR CAPITAL ASSETS, YOUR PENSION RELATED INFORMATION, YOUR DEBT COMPENSATED ABSENCES, AND THEN ANY LIABILITIES FOR YOUR PENSION.

SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOUR TOTAL ASSETS WERE 67,276,000.

OF THAT, YOU HAD 30,823,000 IN CASH AND INVESTMENTS.

YOUR DEFERRED OUTFLOWS OF RESOURCES WERE 1,760,173 AND THAT'S BASICALLY PENSION RELATED AND IT'S AN ADVANCE PAYMENT ON YOUR PENSION BASICALLY.

YOUR LIABILITIES WERE 29,115,656 AND ABOUT 18 MILLION OF THAT IS YOUR DEBT DEBT RELATED LIABILITIES.

THE NET POSITION AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS 39,115,084.

AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR THIS IS YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON A FULL ACCRUAL BASIS, NOT TYPICALLY HOW YOU BUDGET BUT THE I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S OKAY.

THE BALANCE SHEET IS ON PAGE 19 AND 20 AND THESE ARE YOUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, AND IT'S BASICALLY THE WAY YOU BUDGET.

SO IT'S A MODIFIED ACCRUAL BASIS AND YOU DO NOT SEE YOUR FIXED ASSETS, YOUR DEBT AND YOUR PENSIONS OR YOUR COMPENSATED ABSENCES.

SO THE TOTAL ASSETS ON PAGE 20 FOR ALL FUNDS IS 37,324,267.

OF THAT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE 30.8 MILLION IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS.

IF YOU GO OVER TO PAGE 19, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS 17 ALMOST 17.3 MILLION IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS AND TOTAL ASSETS OF 22.9 MILLION.

IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 21 AND 22, YOUR TOTAL LIABILITIES FOR THE YEAR WERE $10,767,235. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE FIRST COLUMN ON PAGE 22, YOU HAD 4.2 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS, AND SO THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO SPEND IN THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.

YOUR TOTAL DEFERRED RESOURCES ARE 2.9, ALMOST 2.9 MILLION, AND THOSE ARE BASICALLY UNCOLLECTED TAXES FOR THE COUNTY OF 2 MILLION AND UNCOLLECTED FINES OF SEVEN, ALMOST 700,000.

SO YOUR TOTAL FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR WAS $23,661,201 OF THAT. YOU HAD AN UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT YOUR GENERAL FUND HAS ENOUGH EXPENSES TO COVER 4 TO 6 MONTHS OR YOUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE HAS ENOUGH EXPENSES TO COVER 4 TO 6 MONTHS.

YOU HAVE NINE MONTHS OF COVERAGE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD, AND THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF GATSBY FOR THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TURN BACK TO THE BUDGET TO ACTUAL, WHICH BEGINS ON PAGE 53, AND THIS IS THE BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO GET THERE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMPARISON OF YOUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL, BUT IT ALSO HAS YOUR 2020 BALANCES ALSO.

SO YOUR TOTAL REVENUES YOU BUDGETED TO BRING IN 23.7 MILLION, YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN 25 POINT ALMOST 25.2 MILLION. THE BULK OF THAT IS IN DIFFERENCES IN PROPERTY TAX, 2.2 MILLION, AND THEN LAST YEAR YOU BROUGHT IN 24 MILLION, 37,248. SO YOU HAD AN INCREASE OVERALL OF CLOSE TO A MILLION.

YOUR EXPENDITURES WERE BUDGETED AT 20 MILLION.

21,937,136. YOU ACTUALLY SPENT $19,464,064,

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SO YOUR TOTAL NET CHANGES IN FUND BALANCE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE THIRD LINE FROM THE TOP OR THE BOTTOM WAS FOR AN INCREASE OF 421,00391, AND THAT BROUGHT YOU UP TO A $15.6 MILLION FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

YOU HAD ACTUALLY BUDGETED TO BRING IT OR TO HAVE A DEFICIT OF 2.5 MILLION.

SO YOUR VARIANCE THERE IS 1.7 MILLION.

ON PAGE 55 IS YOUR COVID REPORT.

ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT ONE.

I MEANT TO GO OVER 54 IS YOUR UNIT ROAD FUND.

SO YOU BUDGETED TOTAL REVENUE THERE OF 947,468 COMPARED TO 843,709.

SO YOU WERE UNDER BUDGET ABOUT 104,000, BUT YOU ACTUALLY WERE ABOUT 90,000 MORE IN REVENUE THAN YOU WERE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

YOUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EXPENSE WAS YOU BUDGETED 4.7 MILLION.

YOU ACTUALLY SPENT 4 MILLION.

SO YOU WERE UNDER BUDGET BY ABOUT 700,000, AND THEN THE TRANSFER IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND WAS 4,490,998, LEAVING YOU WITH A NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE OF 893,117, YOU HAD BUDGETED FOR A $3,000 LOSS.

SO YOUR ACTUAL FUND BALANCE IN YEAR END WAS 2.9 MILLION.

I'D LIKE YOU TO TURN TO PAGE 57 AND 58, WHICH IS YOUR TCDRS OR YOUR TEXAS COUNTY AND DISTRICT RETIREMENT FUND, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS HERE BEFORE I GO OVER THE LETTERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE ON PAGE 58, THE THIRD LINE FROM THE BOTTOM IS 91.89%.

THIS IS YOUR PLAN, BASICALLY YOUR PLAN, HOW IT'S FUNDED.

SO THE LIABILITY COMPARED TO THE ASSETS YOU HAVE IN THE SYSTEM.

SO YOU HAD 91.8.9% LAST YEAR.

IT WAS 102.46.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE REDUCTION CAME, AND IF YOU GO UP ABOUT SEVEN NUMBERS, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOUR NET INVESTMENT INCOME WAS 2.3 MILLION THIS YEAR COMPARED TO 3.1 MILLION LAST YEAR.

SO THAT IS BASED ON THE INVESTMENTS AT 1231 2020 VERSUS 1231 2019.

SO IT'S JUST THE DATE THAT YOUR INVESTMENT IS REPORTED, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THE GFA RECOMMENDS THAT YOU HAVE OVER 70% TO BE A STRONG FUNDED RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

YOU GUYS HAVE 91.89%.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT BEFORE I GO OVER THE LETTERS? WELL, YOU HAVE TWO LETTERS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THE ONE THAT'S CALLED THE MATERIAL WEAKNESS AND SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES IS KIND OF WHAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER FIRST.

YOUR CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS.

SO LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, YOU HADN'T RECONCILED YOUR BANK STATEMENTS.

WHEN WE CAME IN FEBRUARY, YOU HADN'T RECONCILED IT SINCE OCTOBER 2020.

SO IT TOOK YOU SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET THOSE RECONCILED AND UP TO DATE, AND THIS IS A FUNCTION OF THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

SO WHAT, WE'RE THERE, THEY'RE STILL NOT RECONCILED AS OF NOVEMBER 2021.

SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU BRING SOMEBODY IN FROM THE OUTSIDE TO HELP THE TREASURER'S OFFICE GET CAUGHT UP.

I HAVE GIVEN SEVERAL NAMES AND NUMBERS TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR AS WELL AS THE JUDGE, AND I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHAT IF YOU'RE NOT RECONCILING YOUR BANK STATEMENT? YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN, NUMBER ONE, MISAPPROPRIATED ASSETS.

NUMBER TWO, JUST ERRORS IN RECORDING THOSE.

SO THE MONTHLY REPORTS THAT YOU MAY GET MAY NOT BE CORRECT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE REVENUES CORRECTLY.

YOU'RE NOT YOU POSSIBLY AREN'T SEEING EXPENSES, YOU'RE NOT VOIDING CHECKS.

IN FACT, YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING CHECKS SINCE 2013 THAT REALLY NEED TO BE RESEARCHED, AND IF THEY'RE STILL IF THEY'RE TRUE OUTSTANDING CHECKS, THEY NEED TO BE SENT TO

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THE NEXT ITEM IS YOUR REVENUE CODING.

SO REVENUE CODING IS IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED, BUT YOU ACTUALLY ARE RECORDING EVERYTHING TO ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE RATHER THAN REVENUES.

AND SO WHAT THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN IT GOES UP TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, SHE IS MAKING JOURNAL ENTRIES.

SO YOU HAD 578 OF YOUR JOURNAL ENTRIES MADE IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OUT OF 1149. I BELIEVE THOSE WERE THE TWO NUMBERS.

YEAH, 578 VERSUS 1149 WERE MADE TO CORRECT YOUR REVENUES AND THAT'S HALF OF YOUR JOURNAL ENTRIES.

SO THAT WE NEED TO SEE IMPROVEMENT IN THAT AREA.

FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT MANAGEMENT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PREPARE.

I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO JOURNAL ENTRIES IN REVENUE CODING.

I ACTUALLY COMBINED THOSE, BUT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND KIND OF TEACH THE STAFF HOW TO RECORD THOSE REVENUES CORRECTLY.

YOUR CGFA, FEDERAL AND STATE GRANT MANAGEMENT.

SO THE GRANT MANAGER AND COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE WERE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE SCHEDULE OF FEDERAL EXPENDITURES AND SCHEDULE OF STATE EXPENDITURES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

ALL GRANTS SHOULD BE TRACKED CORRECTLY IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS SO THAT TIMING AND ACCRUALS ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

A COMPLETE AND ACCURATE CGFA AND CSA SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AND RECONCILED TO THE FINANCIALS ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

IN ADDITION, TIMING SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND ACCRUALS RECORDED.

SO PART OF THE PROBLEM IN THIS AREA TOO WAS A RESULT OF THE REVENUE CODING.

SO SOMETIMES THEY WEREN'T AWARE THAT REVENUE HAD COME IN FOR A GRANT THAT HAD BEEN RECORDED BY THE BY I GUESS THE WHEN IT CAME IN, IT WAS RECORDED AS AN AR RATHER THAN A ACTUAL REVENUE . YOUR AGENCY FUNDS IN SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNTS.

THIS PAST YEAR, GASB 84 CAME INTO EFFECT AND IT REQUIRED THAT YOU COMBINE ALL OF YOUR FIDUCIARY FUNDS FROM BASICALLY EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT YOU HAVE.

SO YOU MAY HAVE A TREASURY OF THE COURT ACCOUNTS THAT NEED TO NOW BE INCLUDED, AND SO WE DID NOT HAVE THOSE ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THEY HAD TO BE MANUALLY INPUT ALONG WITH TWO SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNTS.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU BRING THOSE INTO YOUR ACTUAL SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

GENERAL LEDGER ACCOUNTS NOT RECONCILED TO UNDERLYING SUBSIDIARY ACCOUNTS AND RECORDS.

SO GENERALLY YOU SHOULD RECOGNIZE OR RECONCILE YOUR SUB LEDGERS TO THE GENERAL LEDGER, AND THAT'S JUST NOT OCCURRING, AND AGAIN, THAT KIND OF FALLS BACK TO YOUR REVENUE ACCOUNTS NOT BEING RECORDED CORRECTLY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MONEY BEING FROM THE COUNTY CLERK OR THE DISTRICT CLERK BEING RECORDED AS AN R, AND SOME OF THOSE FUNDS REALLY GO TO A LIABILITY FOR OR THE JP'S OFFICE FOR FINES, AND SO THEY SHOULD BE RECORDED TO A LIABILITY. SO WHEN THE QUARTER IS UP, YOU CAN JUST PAY THOSE FUNDS OUT.

SO ANYWAY, AGAIN, IT KIND OF JUST HAS CONTINUED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RECONCILING OUR STATEMENTS CORRECTLY. SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR THE MATERIAL WEAKNESS LETTER.

ON THE GOVERNANCE LETTER, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOME SMALLER COMMENTS.

WE DID HAVE MATERIAL ENTRIES TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE FOR 54,845, AND IN THE GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENTS, FIXED ASSETS OF 53,639, WE HAD ADJUSTMENTS TO RECLASSIFY REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES CODED TO TRANSFER ACCOUNTS AND PRIOR PERIOD ADJUSTMENT FOR UNDERSTATED FISCAL YEAR 2020 REVENUE FROM THE ADULT PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

YOU WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT.

IT REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS AND YOU JUST DID

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YOU RECORDED A YEAR END, SUCH AS DEFERRED REVENUE AND RECEIVABLES.

THE ACCOUNTS SHOULD REVIEW, THE COUNTY SHOULD REVIEW THE TIMING OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR 60 DAYS FOLLOWING CURRENT FISCAL YEAR END FOR ADDITIONAL ACCRUALS AND THEN FIXED ASSET TRACKING.

WE DID NOT WE DID NOTE IN YOUR TRACKING THAT HAD IMPROVED, BUT I THINK YOU HAD SOME CHANGES IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO SEE MORE CONSISTENT, I GUESS, IMPROVEMENT.

I DO WANT TO TELL YOU TOO, THAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WAS NOT IS REQUIRED TO DO QUARTERLY INTERNAL AUDITS OF EACH DEPARTMENT, AND THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO CORRECT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION FOR.

I GAVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF 578 JOURNAL ENTRIES TO CORRECT REVENUES, AND THEY ARE HELPING A LITTLE.

THEY'RE HELPING A LOT.

SO TRY TO GET THE RECONCILIATIONS UP AND RUNNING.

AND THEY ALSO, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TOOK OVER THE PAYROLL ACCOUNT, PAYROLL PROCESSING.

SO THEY'RE DOING QUITE A BIT, AND SO IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT DANNY WAS ABLE TO DO A COUPLE INTERNAL AUDITS THIS THIS PAST TWO MONTHS, AND I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THE REPORT ON THOSE.

I DO WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT YOUR GENERAL LEDGER RECONCILING DID IMPROVE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, AND REMEMBER, THIS IS YEAR END TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021, AND THAT YOUR AGENCY FUNDS HAD IMPROVED SOMEWHAT ALSO.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO

[7. Discussion/Action regarding the burn ban.]

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF AND GALLERY.

WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON OUR FIRE SITUATION IN CALDWELL COUNTY SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET WE HAD A FEW FIRES, MOSTLY ON PRIVATE RANCHES WHERE THE FIRES, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY LIGHT THE FIRE AND TEND TO THEIR BRUSH AND THEN THEY LEAVE AND THEY LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED AND FIRE TAKES OFF ON THEM.

WE HAD A BIG FIRE THIS WEEKEND OFF OF FM 671 ON AN OIL FIELD WHERE WE HAD TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE WITH THEIR DOZERS TO COME IN AND PLOW FIREBREAKS ALONG THERE, BUT IT WAS COMPLICATED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OIL LINES RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT THE FIRE WAS 100% CONTAINED ON SUNDAY AND IT WAS A JOB WELL DONE WITH ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT ASSISTED.

CURRENTLY, BASTROP AND HAYS ARE PENDING POSSIBLE BURN BANS.

FAYETTE COUNTY HAS JUST IMPOSED A BURN BAN.

THERE'S NO RAIN PREDICTED UNTIL TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11TH, WHICH IS A 20% CHANCE OF RAIN.

THERE'S NO TROPICAL ENTITIES OF ANY KIND THAT ARE GOING TO ENTER THE GULF AT ANY TIME AND HEAD OUR WAY AND GIVE US ANY TYPE OF RAIN.

CURRENTLY, OUR KDBI NUMBERS ARE 480S TO MINIMUM.

THE MAX IS 701, THE AVERAGE 596 AND CLIMBING WITH A CHANGE OF SIX.

I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BERM BAND PUT BACK ON DUE TO THE HIGH NUMBERS AND THE DRYNESS AND THE LACK OF RAIN INTO CALDWELL COUNTY.

OKAY, THANK YOU, HECTOR.

WELL, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP THE BURN BAN ON.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO LEAVE THE BURN BAN ON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM 8, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF CALDWELL COUNTY 4H PROCLAMATION, AND I THINK WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE WHO WANT TO COME UP.

[8. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Caldwell County 4-H Proclamation.]

I'M ANDREW MILLER.

I'M THE 4H AGENT HERE IN CALDWELL COUNTY AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR COUNTY COUNCIL PRESIDENT TONY MARTINEZ, TO GIVE OUR PROCLAMATION ON 4H.

STANDING BEHIND ME, I HAVE OUR COUNTY COUNCIL HISTORIAN TAYLOR [INAUDIBLE], AND MY BROTHER WYATT MARTINEZ, THE NATIONAL 4H PROCLAMATION.

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WHEREAS, IT IS MORE THAN 550,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUTH, PARTICIPANTS RANGING FROM AGES 8 TO 19, HAIL FROM DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIO ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND TRULY REPRESENT CROSS-SECTION OF THE STATE, AND.

WHEREAS, THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS THAT IT HAS TODAY, WERE IT NOT FOR THE SERVICE OF ITS MORE THAN 22,000 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GAINED GENEROUSLY AND GIVEN THEIR TIME, TALENTS, ENERGIES AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS, AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT THE PROUD HISTORY OF THE 4H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXANS AND THROUGH ITS INNOVATIVE AND INSPIRING PROGRAM, CONTINUES TO BUILD CHARACTER AND TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED.

THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY DESIGNATES OCTOBER 2ND THROUGH EIGHTH 2022 AS NATIONAL 4H WEEK IN TEXAS AND COMMEND THE TEXAS YOUTH FORAGE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THIS PROGRAM A SUCCESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? AND JUST AS A WRAP UP ON SATURDAY THE EIGHTH, WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH LOCKHART STATE PARK TO DO A 4H CLEANUP DAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR CALDWELL COUNTY? I MEAN, THE PROCLAMATION FOR CALDWELL COUNTY, 4H.

SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE, HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM.. AND THE JUDGE THANKS YOU FOR READING THAT FOR HIM.

OH, YEAH. YOU COULD PROBABLY GET HER PHONE NUMBER AND INVITE HER BACK.

WE MAY MAKE HER THE RESOLUTION READER AND JUST HAVE HER STAND BY WHEN WE HAVE TO READ THEM.

SHE DID A GREAT JOB.

ITEM 8, DISCUSSION ACTION, TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF CALDWELL COUNTY.

OOP. SORRY, WE JUST DID THAT.

ONE ITEM NINE, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION ASSOCIATION.

[9. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Texas Extension Education Association (TEEA) Proclamation.]

ELSIE I'M HERE TODAY.

WELL, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, AND I AM HERE TODAY AND I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR 4H TOO.

SO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ONE OF THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT SUPPORT 4H SERVICE JUDGES PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS IS THE TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, AND WE'VE GOT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HERE TODAY WHO WAS ESTHER, AND SHE'S GOING TO GO OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU.

AND IT USED TO BE CALLED THE HOME DEMONSTRATION CLUB.

SO THAT'S ALSO KNOWN AS THAT, ESTHER.

I'M ESTHER VARNEY, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE LOCKHART TEA CLUB.

WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE TEA WEEK WE HAVE THREE CLUBS IN CALDWELL COUNTY, LOCKHART HAS A CLUB. IT'S 109 YEARS OLD, AND WE HAVE 12 MEMBERS.

LULING CLUB IS 108 YEARS OLD AND HAS THREE MEMBERS.

THEN GLEN VAUGHT CLUB HAS BEEN IN 109 YEARS AND THEY HAVE THREE.

THE THREE CLUBS WORK TOGETHER, VOLUNTEERING TIME AND MONEY IN CALDWELL.

COVID 19 HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON US.

WE DIDN'T GET TO DO AS MUCH VOLUNTEERING AS WE USUALLY DO.

HOWEVER, WE DID VOLUNTEER OVER 2419 HOURS, VALUED AT $64,402.

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THE 94TH STATE CONFERENCE WAS HELD IN LUBBOCK ON SEPTEMBER THE 13TH AND 14TH.

WE ATTENDED BUSINESS MEETINGS, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK TO TEACH IN HERE AND INSTALLED NEW STATE OFFICES. JUDY WHEELER FROM THE GLEN [INAUDIBLE] CLUB WAS INSTALLED AS THE DISTRICT DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT TEN.

WE'RE KIND OF PROUD OF HER.

FIRST PLACE CALDWELL COUNTY MEMBERS ENTERED 16 FIRST PLACE WINNERS FOR THE DISTRICT OF DISTRICT TEN.

THEN WE WENT TO THE STATE CONFERENCE.

WE GOT ONE FIRST PLACE AND TWO THIRD PLACES, AND IN THE CULTURAL ARTS.

THIS YEAR TA AWARDED A $500 SCHOLARSHIP AND GLENN [INAUDIBLE] AWARD AT $500 SCHOLARSHIP.

WE LADIES TAKE GREAT JOY AND PRIDE IN TIME WE SPEND IN SERVING THE COUNTY.

THIS WILL COMPLETE MY 2022 REPORT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW I HAVE THE TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION WEEK, WHEREAS THE TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION ASSOCIATION OF CALDWELL COUNTY BELIEVES STRONG FAMILIES ARE BASIC TO THE WELL-BEING OF TEXAS, AND.

WHEREAS, THEY HAVE EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS CRITICAL NEEDS IMPACTING TEXAS FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES, AND.

WHEREAS, THEY SEE EDUCATION AS A LIFELONG LEARNING PROCESS, AND.

WHEREAS, THEY BELIEVE VOLUNTEERS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOLUNTEER DEVELOPMENT ARE IMPORTANT, AND.

WHEREAS, THEY DEVELOP LEADERSHIP THAT OFFERS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEREAS, CULTURAL AND ETHNIC DIVERSITY AND PROGRAMS AND MEMBERSHIP IS PRESENT.

WHEREAS GLOBAL AWARENESS IS RECOGNIZED, AND WHEREAS, THE TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION ASSOCIATION COOPERATES WITH TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION TO ATTEND MUTUAL GOALS, AND.

WHEREAS, OCTOBER TO SECOND TO THE EIGHTH TO 2022 IS TEXAS EXTENSION EDUCATION ASSOCIATION WEEK IN TEXAS.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TEA PROCLAMATION? I'LL SO MOVE. IF WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU ELSIE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU BET. ITEM TEN, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 42 EXCUSE ME, 2022,

[10. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Resolution 42-2022 authorizing Caldwell County Grant Program for Community Action-Meals on Wheels Rural Capital Area.]

DENNIS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS.

I'M GOING TO READ A RESOLUTION, IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE COUNTY OF CALDWELL, TEXAS, CERTIFYING THAT THE COUNTY HAS MADE A GRANT TO COMBINE COMMUNITY ACTION MEALS ON WHEELS, RURAL CAPITAL AREA, AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES HOME DELIVERED MEALS TO HOMEBOUND PERSONS IN THE COUNTY WHO ARE ELDERLY AND OR HAVE A DISABILITY, AND CERTIFYING THAT THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED THE ORGANIZATION'S ACCOUNTING SYSTEM OR FISCAL AGENT.

WHEREAS THE ORGANIZATION DESIRES TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT FUNDING FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TO SUPPLEMENT AND EXTEND EXISTING SERVICES FOR HOMEBOUND PERSONS IN THE COUNTY WHO ARE ELDERLY AND OR HAVE A DISABILITY PURSUANT TO THE HOME DELIVERED MEAL GRANTS PROGRAM, AND WHEREAS, THE PROGRAM RULES REQUIRE THE COUNTY IN WHICH AN ORGANIZATION IS PROVIDING HOME DELIVERED MEAL SERVICES TO MAKE A GRANT TO THE ORGANIZATION IN ORDER OF THE ORGANIZATION TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PROGRAM GRANT FUNDS, AND. WHEREAS, THE PROGRAM RULES REQUIRE THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THE ORGANIZATION'S ACCOUNTING SYSTEM OR FISCAL AGENT IN ORDER FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PROGRAM GRANT FUNDS AND BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COUNTY SECTION ONE, THE COUNTY HEREBY CERTIFIES IT HAS MADE A GRANT TO THE ORGANIZATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,000 TO BE USED BETWEEN OCTOBER ONE OF 2022 AND THE SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2023.

SECTION TWO, THE COUNTY HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT THE ORGANIZATION PROVIDES HOME DELIVERED MEALS TO HOMEBOUND PERSONS IN THE COUNTY WHO ARE ELDERLY AND OR HAVE A DISABILITY.

SECTION THREE, THE COUNTY HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT IT HAS APPROVED THE ORGANIZATION'S ACCOUNTING SYSTEM OR FISCAL AGENT, WHICH MEETS FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AS SET FORTH IN THE TEXAS GRANT MANAGEMENT STANDARDS PROMULGATED BY THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.

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I ASK THAT THE RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 42-2022 TWO? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ITEM 11, DISCUSSION, ACTION, AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 432022 TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING THE POSITION OF CALDWELL

[11. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Resolution 43-2022, temporarily suspending the position of Caldwell County Elections Administrator, and temporarily transferring the duties of the Elections Administrator to the County Clerk.]

SO AS THE COURT IS AWARE, THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR RESIGNED FOR HEALTH REASONS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE.

KIND OF BLURRING TOGETHER, AND SO THIS IS WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW IS FOR THE ELECTION TO CONTINUE JUST UNDER THERESA SUPERVISION INSTEAD OF KIMBALL'S. TYPICALLY, THE COUNTY CLERK IS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO WOULD CONDUCT AN ELECTION IN THE ABSENCE OF AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS JUST KIND OF TIES IN A NEAT LITTLE BOW ALL OF THE DUTIES THAT WOULD BE NORMALLY HANDLED BY THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND MOVES THEM BACK TO THE COUNTY CLERK IN ADDITION TO THE VOTER REGISTRAR DUTIES, WHICH ACTUALLY GOES TO THE TAX ASSESSOR, BUT I DON'T EXPECT SHE WANTS THAT.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ RESOLUTION 43-202, RESOLUTION THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE GENERALLY DESIGNATES THE COUNTY CLERK AS THE CHIEF ELECTIONS OFFICER IN THE COUNTY AND ESTABLISHES THE COUNTY CLERK'S ELECTION DUTIES.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE ALSO EMPOWERS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO CREATE OR ABOLISH THE COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR POSITION AND ITS AND AT ITS DISCRETION, WHICH WHEN IN PLACE ASSUMES THE ELECTION DUTIES OF THE COUNTY CLERK.

WHEREAS THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER 2022, EARLY VOTING PERIOD IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN WITHIN ONE MONTH, AND THE 2022 GENERAL ELECTION IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022.

WHEREAS ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2022, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CABELL COUNTY ELECTIONS COMMITTEE ACCEPTED THE RESIGNATION OF THE CURRENT COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, AND.

WHEREAS, CALDWELL COUNTY VOTERS BENEFIT FROM CONSISTENCY IN ELECTION INFORMATION AND ELECTION OFFICIALS, AND.

WHEREAS, CALDWELL COUNTY CLERK IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS RETURN OF DUTIES IN ORDER TO BEST SERVE THE CITIZENS OF KABUL COUNTY AND THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR AGREES TO DESIGNATE THE CLERK AS VOTER REGISTRAR, AND.

WHEREAS, TEMPORARILY TRANSFERRING THE ELECTION DUTIES FROM CALDWELL COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR TO THE COVELL COUNTY CLERK WILL BEST ALLOW THE COUNTY TO ENSURE A UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT ELECTION REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF FRAUD IN CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION, PROTECT THE SECRETARY'S SECRECY OF THE BALLOT AND PROMOTE VOTER ACCESS AND ENSURE THAT ALL LEGALLY CAST BALLOTS ARE COUNTED.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT ONE CALDWELL COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION POSITION IS TEMPORARILY, TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS CALDWELL COUNTY ELECTION COMMISSION FILLS THE VACANCY TO ALL DUTIES AND OBLIGATIONS.

THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR ARE TRANSFERRED TO THE CALDWELL COUNTY CLERK DURING THE TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION, INCLUDING THE DUTIES OF VOTER REGISTRAR, EARLY VOTING CLERK AND ANY OTHER DUTIES AS ENUMERATED IN THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE AND PURSUANT TO THE ELECTION CODE SECTION 85.061, THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, LOCATED AT 1703 SOUTH COLORADO STREET, LOCKHART, TEXAS 78644 IS A REGULARLY MAINTAINED BRANCH OF THE ELECTED ELECTRIC CLERICAL OFFICE AND IS NOT TO BE USED AS A BRANCH. EARLY VOTING POLLING PLACE ORDERED THIS 27TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.

COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 432022.

SO MOVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER THERIOT, I GUESS ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

[12. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Resolution 44-2022, establishing temporary branch polling places for the 2022 November General Election.]

SARA, GOOD MORNING.

RESOLUTION 442022.

RESOLUTION FOR CALDWELL COUNTY.

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COMMISSIONERS COURT ESTABLISHING TEMPORARY BRANCH POLLING PLACES.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO ESTABLISH TEMPORARY BRANCHING POLLING PLACES, WHEREAS CALDWELL COUNTY HAS A POPULATION UNDER 100,000, AND.

WHEREAS, EACH TEMPORARY BRANCH POLLING PLACE MUST BE CONDUCTED AT LEAST TWO CONSECUTIVE BUSINESS DAYS AND FOR AT LEAST EIGHT CONSECUTIVE HOURS ON EACH OF THOSE DAYS.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE FOLLOWING TEMPORARY BRANCH POLLING PLACES ARE ESTABLISHED FOR THE INDICATED TIMES. CLEAR FORK ELEMENTARY COTTAGE, OCTOBER 27TH AND 28TH 08 A.M.

TO 6 P.M.

. DELHI FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOVEMBER 1ST AND 2ND 9 A.M.

TO 6 P.M.

THREE RIVERS COMMUNITY CHURCH, NOVEMBER 3RD AND FOURTH 9 A.M.

TO 6 P.M.

UHLAND COMMUNITY CENTER, OCTOBER 25TH AND 26TH, 09 A.M.

TO 6 P.M..

LOCKHART HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC PORTABLE OCTOBER 25TH AND 26TH, 8 A.M.

TO 6 P.M..

LYTTON SPRINGS BAPTIST CHURCH, OCTOBER 27TH AND 28TH 8 A.M.

TO 6 P.M. ORDERED THIS 27TH DAY SEPTEMBER 2022.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 44-2022? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 13, DISCUSSION ACTION.

[13. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of adopting Resolution 45-2022, fixing the compensation for election workers for the 2022 November General Election.]

WHEREAS, THE COUNTY MUST FIX THE COMPENSATION OF ELECTION WORKERS FOR ELECTIONS SORRY ORDERED BY THE COUNTY.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE FOLLOWING ELECTION WORKERS HAVE THEIR COMPENSATION FIXED AS BELOW. DO I READ THAT EXHIBIT? YES. YES.

OKAY, PRESIDING ELECTION JUDGE, $14 AN HOUR.

ALTERNATE PRESIDING ELECTION, JUDGE $14 AN HOUR.

ELECTION CLERK, $12 AN HOUR.

EARLY VOTING CLERK, $12 AN HOUR.

STUDENT EARLY VOTING CLERK, $12 AN HOUR.

EARLY VOTING BALLOT BOARD MEMBERS $14 AN HOUR.

COUNTING STATION MANAGER.

$14 AN HOUR.

ASSISTANT COUNTING STATION MANAGER, $14 AN HOUR.

TABULATION SUPERVISOR.

$14 AN HOUR.

ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR $14 AN HOUR.

PRESIDING JUDGE OF COUNTING STATION, $14 AN HOUR.

ALTERNATE PRESIDING JUDGE OF COUNTING STATION, $14 AN HOUR.

COUNTING STATION CLERKS, $12 AN HOUR.

IT IS THEREFORE RESOLVED A COMPENSATION FOR TRAINING SHALL NOT EXCEED $10 AN HOUR REGARDLESS OF THE POSITION OF AN ELECTION WORKER HOLDS ORDERED ON THIS 27TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 452022? SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THERIOT, ANY DISCUSSION.

IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ITEM 14, DISCUSSION ACTION, CONSIDER AMENDING RESOLUTION 392022 TO INCLUDE PRAIRIE LEA ISD AS A

[14. Discussion/Action to consider amending Resolution 39-2022, to include Prairie Lea ISD as a participating entity in the joint election.]

COMMISSIONER, I'VE GOT THIS ONE OR JUDGE I'VE GOT THIS ONE.

THE EARLIER THE COURT PASSED RESOLUTION 39-2022, THAT WAS TO CREATE A JOINT ELECTION BETWEEN ALL THE PARTICIPATING ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY. SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THAT RESOLUTION, PRAIRIE LEA HAS APPROACHED THE COUNTY AND ASKED TO ALSO BE INCLUDED, AND THIS IS JUST AMENDMENT ADDING PRIMARILY TO THE BODY OF THAT PARAGRAPH.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED. SO THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO ADD PURELY IF THE COURT LIKES, I CAN READ THE WHOLE THING OR WE CAN JUST KNOW THAT PRAIRIE LEA IS IN IT.

GO AHEAD AND READ IT. RESOLUTION 39-2022 AMENDED RESOLUTION OF CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVING JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT FOR THE NOVEMBER EIGHT,

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WHEREAS CALDWELL COUNTY, A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, WILL BE CONDUCTING ITS GENERAL ELECTION FOR COUNTY OFFICES ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022, WHEREAS OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE ORDERED OVERLAPPING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES WITH THE COUNTY WILL ALSO BE HOLDING THEIR RESPECTIVE ELECTIONS NOVEMBER EIGHT, 2022. WHEREAS, CHAPTER 271 OF THE TEXAS ELECTIONS CODE ALLOWS FOR THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF HOLDING ELECTIONS ON THE SAME DAY AND ALL OR PART OF THE SAME COUNTY TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO HOLD THEIR ELECTIONS JOINTLY IN ELECTION PRECINCTS THAT CAN BE SERVED BY COMMON POLLING PLACES, AND.

WHEREAS, THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF LOCKHART, THE CITY OF MARTINDALE, THE CITY OF MUSTANG RIDGE, THE LOCKHART INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE WELDER INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THE MAXWELL SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

PRAIRIE LEA INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AND BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

DESIRE TO ENTER INTO A JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT FOR THE JOINT PARTICIPATION IN THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 ELECTION, EARLY VOTING PERIOD AND SUBSEQUENT RUNOFF ELECTIONS IF REQUIRED. NOW, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT ATTACHMENTS TO BILL ONE IS APPROVED AND THE CALDWELL COUNTY JUDGE IS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION 3 92022 TO INCLUDE PRAIRIE LEA ISD PARTICIPATING ENTITY AND JOINT ELECTION. I SO MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

BEEN INFORMED BY CHASE THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT YET FOR THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION MANAGER.

THAT'S NUMBER 18.

YOU TOLD ME 15. SO I WROTE IT.

I'M SORRY.

MY MISTAKE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH ITEM 15.

[15. Discussion/Action to consider approval of a central counting station manager, assistant manager, tabulation supervisor, and assistant tabulation supervisor.]

AS PART OF THE ELECTION THERE, THE CENTRAL ACCOUNTING STATION IS MANAGED BY FOUR PEOPLE.

THAT IS THE ACCOUNTING STATION MANAGER, ASSISTANT MANAGER, THE TABULATION SUPERVISOR AND THE ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR.

HISTORICALLY, THOSE HAVE BEEN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, INCLUDING THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.

SO THESE FOUR PEOPLE HERE THAT WILL NEED TO BE APPOINTED WILL BE TERESA RODRIGUEZ, THE COUNTY CLERK AS THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION MANAGER, SARA FULLILOVE AS THE ASSISTANT MANAGER, MYRA ORTIZ CALDERON AS THE TABULATION SUPERVISOR, AND DEVONTE COE IS THE ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR.

OK. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CENTRAL ACCOUNTING STATION MANAGER, ASSISTANT MANAGER, TABULATION SUPERVISOR, AND ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION. NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED, HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

[16. Discussion/Action to consider appointing precinct Election Judges for the 2022 November General Election.]

CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT APPOINTING PRESIDING AND ALTERNATE ELECTION PRECINCT JUDGES.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO APPOINT ELECTION JUDGES FOR EACH REGULAR COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCT, AND.

WHEREAS, THE COUNTY CLERK HAS MADE A REASONABLE EFFORT TO CONSULT WITH THE PARTY CHAIR OF THE APPROPRIATE POLITICAL PARTIES AND NOW SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF PRESIDING AN ALTERNATE PRESIDING PRECINCT ELECTION JUDGES ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT ONE.

NOW THEREFORE.

OR SHOULD I READ THE JUDGES FIRST? PROBABLY OUGHT TO READ THE JUDGES FIRST SO YOU CAN READ YOURS.

I'VE GOT HIS COMPUTER.

ALL RIGHT, STEVE CASILLAS, AMBER BRESHEARS, KATHY STANLEY, MARY DELA CRUZ, JENNIFER HELUMS, GLORIA HANNA, WAYNE WALTHER, SUS,ANNA OLSON RUTH CAROLYN MARTIN.

JASMINE WHITE, SUSAN BLAIR, GILBERT GUERRERO.

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KAREN COCHRAN.

PATRICK WALDEN.

NORA WARREN.

ROSE FIRST, JOHNNY SPRIGGS.

I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THAT ONE.

THAT ONE'S BLURRY AND I CAN'T SEE IT.

I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE.

THAT'S TOO BLURRY. JOHN REYES.

DANIEL GARCIA.

JARRET CORCORAN.

BOB PURCELL.

CHRISTINE LIEBERMAN, DAVID AGUILAR, MARY ALICE LANIS, JOHN BAKER, DONNA VOTEE, GREG HANNA, KAREN BARTON, OLGA DELGADO, MARY VICKY GONZALEZ, TERRY HENDERSON, JIM WEIGAND AND AL DESANTIS.

NOW THERE OR NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THE PRESIDING AND ALTERNATE PRESIDING PRECINCT ELECTION JUDGES ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT ONE ARE APPOINTED ORDERED THIS 27TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2022.

OKAY COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIST OF PRECINCT ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, AND I NOTICE THAT LIKE SIX POSITIONS ARE STILL UNFILLED.

SO WE'LL NEED THE PARTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THOSE FILLED BEFORE GENERAL ELECTION.

THAT'S CORRECT, AND DO WE ONCE WE FILL THOSE, WE NEED TO COME BACK AND IMPROVE THE LAST SIX? NO, JUDGE. SO THE BECAUSE AS CLOSE AS WE ARE TO THE ELECTION, ONCE WE FIND PEOPLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY BE ENTERED BY YOUR ORDER ALONE. IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT OKAY, AND THE NAME THAT WAS NOT READABLE WAS RENEE BRUNER.

OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM 17 DISCUSSION, ACTION, AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF JUDGE HAYDEN'S REAPPOINTMENT TO CAP COG EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND I'LL BE ABSTAINING FROM THAT

[17. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Judge Haden's reappointment to CAPCOG Executive Committee.]

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE.

AYE. FOUR AYES AND ONE ABSTENTION.

ITEM 18, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF RENEWAL CONTRACT BETWEEN CALDWELL COUNTY AND BEN COURTNEY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SETH THOMAS

[18. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of a renewal contract between Caldwell County and Ben Courtney for the maintenance of the Seth Thomas Clock Tower.]

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM 18.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 18.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRY.

[19. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #99 to transfer money from Caldwell County Jail 001-4310-1053 Kitchen to 001-4310-4260 Transportation and from 001-4310-1052 Jailer to 001 -3251-3110 Food Supplies for the increase of fuel and food supplies.]

00143101053 KITCHEN TO 00143104260, TRANSPORTATION AND FROM 00143101052 JAILER 200132513110.

FOOD SUPPLIES FOR INCREASED FUEL AND FOOD SUPPLIES.

DANNY. YES.

SO JUST AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE JAILS LINE ITEMS AND FUEL AND THE FOOD SUPPLIES LINE ITEMS IS A LITTLE LOW.

SO WE'RE JUST SUPPLEMENTING FROM THE STAFF LINE ITEMS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT THE JAIL HAS BEEN UNDER STAFF THIS YEAR.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE SOME FUNDS FROM THERE TO SUPPLEMENT THE FOOD SUPPLY AND FUEL LINE ITEMS, AND THAT COST, BY THE WAY, WAS 28,300.

YES. SO THE 25,000 IS GOING INTO FOOD AND THEN THE 3300 IS GOING INTO FUEL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

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DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. HEARING NINE MOTION CARRIES.

[20. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #100 for Unit Road to adjust GL Codes for Social Security, Group Medical and Retirement & Adjust for Overtime.]

THEN YES, AGAIN.

SO THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE AT UNIT ROAD, FRANK SANCHEZ.

HE WITH UNIT ROAD.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN IT.

HE TRANSFERRED FROM ONE TO ANOTHER, A COUPLE COURTS PASSED.

WE HAD MADE THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WE FORGOT TO DO THE SOCIAL SECURITY GROUP MEDICAL AND RETIREMENT ADJUSTMENT JUST TO MOVE THAT FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO THE NEXT. SO THIS IS JUST A REVISION FOR THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT 100? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

[21. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of budget amendment #101 to take $50,000 from 019-1000-5168 Maxwell SUD into 019-1000-5167 Unit Road Equipment for final piece of equipment.]

CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT 101 TO TAKE 50,000 FROM 019 1000 5168.

MAXWELL SUD IN THE 019 1000 5167 UNIT ROAD EQUIPMENT FOR FINAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

YES. AGAIN, THIS IS THE ARPA FUNDS AND I KNOW ON PAPER IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE TAKING AWAY THE MAXWELL SUD ENCUMBERED FUNDS OR ALTOGETHER, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

WE RECEIVED OUR SECOND SUPPLEMENT FROM FOR THE ARPA FUNDS, BUT WE DO NEED AN ADDITIONAL 50,000 TO COVER THE FINAL COST FOR UNIT ROAD EQUIPMENT. SO WE ARE JUST THEN MOVING MAXWELL SUD OVER TO UNIT ROADS EQUIPMENT AND THEN WE'LL REALLOCATE FOR MAXWELL SUD WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THAT LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT 101.

SO MOVE. HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 22, DISCUSSION ACTION REQUEST TO APPROVE PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $202,070.85 TO DOGGETT FREIGHTLINER OF SOUTH

[22. Discussion/Action Request to approve payment in the amount of $202,070.85 to Doggett Freightliner of South Austin Texas, LLC for Invoice #VM105000296.]

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

THIS IS JUST US ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THIS INVOICE.

THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO UNIT ROAD AND THEY HAVE ALREADY UNDERGONE THE TRAINING FOR IT.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOGGETT GETS PAID FOR THIS.

OKAY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF VM 105000296.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE. HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

[23. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #102 to transfer money from Non-Departmental 001-6510-4110 Professional Services to 001-6510-4123 Autopsy for increase in autopsy expenses.]

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EXPLAINABLE.

YEAH, YOU GOT IT RIGHT.

THAT'LL KIND OF BE THE NEXT COUPLE.

OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT 102? SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THERIOT.

ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES.

[24. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #103 to transfer funds around in Non-Departmental to increase Fax & Internet line due to final invoice for AT&T.]

YES, ON THIS ONE, THIS IS OUR FINAL INVOICE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR FOR AT&T.

SO WE HAD YOU'LL LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM BREAKDOWN, AND SINCE IT'S THE END OF THE YEAR, WE KIND OF WE HAD TO JUMP ALL OVER THE PLACE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT.

THAT AFFECTS AN INTERNET LINE ITEM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT 103? SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?

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OPPOSED HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES.

[25. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of payment for REQ01246 for AT&T invoice.]

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT OF REQUISITION 01246.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.

IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 26 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 104 TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM DISTRICT JUDGE

[26. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of Budget Amendment #104 to transfer money from District Judge 001-3230-4150 Adult Expert Witness/Indigent into 001-3230-4011 Administrative Expenses and 001-3230-4820 Juror Expense to adjust line items for administrative and juror expenses.]

YES, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, THIS IS JUST IN THE YEAR MOVING SOME STUFF AROUND TO FINALIZE.

I DO KIND OF WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW I'M GOING TO RESTRUCTURE THINGS A LITTLE BIT INSTEAD OF HAVING A MILLION BUDGET AMENDMENTS EVERY COURT JUST KIND OF MONITOR IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND DO THEM QUARTERLY SO I KNOW THEY CAN GET.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA WITH THE DRAFT AS WELL.

I SEE THAT IN OTHER BOARDS.

I SIT ON THAT, THEY COME IN WITH THEIR FINANCIALS AND THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE GRAPH SHOWING WHERE THEY'RE PROGRESSING TO.

I THINK THAT WAS AWESOME TO SEE.

THANK YOU. GREAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 104? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, ITEM 27 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF REQUISITION 01855 IN THE AMOUNT OF

[27. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of REQ01855 in the amount of $116,060.00 for Doucet& Associates for Project R1611-003 Professional Services through June 26, 2022.]

THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS SEEKING APPROVAL TO APPROVE THIS REQUISITION SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH RECEIVING THIS INVOICE AND GETTING DOUCETTE PAID.

IS THIS OUR NUMBER SUPPOSED TO BE 1911? IS THAT THE WHAT YOU SAW? CHASE BECAUSE THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS R 1911.

YEAH. YES. YES.

THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE R 19111.

OKAY, GOOD CATCH, COMMISSIONER.

THAT IS CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT CORRECTION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE REQUISITION 01855? I'LL SO MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE ,AYE.

[INAUDIBLE] OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES ITEM 28 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF

[28. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of payment in the amount of $116,060.00 to Doucet & Associates for Invoice #2206113 Project R1911-003 Professional Services through June 26, 2022.]

WE JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS INVOICE PAID.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS FOR SERVICES THROUGH JUNE, SO WE ARE A LITTLE BEHIND ON IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT.

I'LL SO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE CAN BRING COMMISSIONER TERRIO BACK.

[INAUDIBLE] .

ONE MORE. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GET.

[INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF REQUISITION 01883 IN THE AMOUNT OF $223,000 FOR

[29. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of REQ01883 in the amount of $223,000.00 for Doucet & Associates for Project Rl 911 -003 professional Services through September 7, 2022.]

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OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE REQUISITION 01883.

SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE PASSES FOUR WITH ONE EXTENSION ABSTENTION, NOT EXTENSION.

ITEM 30 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF PAYMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $223,000 TO DOUCET ASSOCIATES FOR INVOICE NUMBER

[30. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of payment in the amount of $223,000.00 to Doucet & Associates for Invoice #2208054 Project R1911-003 Professional Services through September 7, 2022.]

THANK YOU, SIR. I'M JUST ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO PAY THIS INVOICE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT OF INVOICE 2208054.

SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE.

ONE ABSTENTION, OPPOSED? NONE. MOTION PASSES.

ITEM 31 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF AWARD OF RFP 22CCP01B ROAD MATERIALS FLEX BASE FUEL AND

[31. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of award for RFB 22CCP01B Road Materials, Flex Base, Fuel & Oil/Lube for FY 22-23.]

CAROLINE. YES.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT DID GO OUT FOR THE BID PROCESS FOR ROAD MATERIALS FOR NEXT YEAR.

I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE OPENED BIDS ON THE 13TH.

WE HAD SEVERAL SUBMISSIONS AND AFTER REVIEWING EVERYTHING WITH MYSELF AND DONALD OVER AT UNIT ROAD, WE HAVE MADE OUR DECISION FOR NEXT YEAR'S AWARD WINNERS AND I HAVE IT HERE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ IT OUT.

IT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP.

COMMISSIONERS. IF IT PLEASES Y'ALL, I WOULD LOVE TO.

IF YOU'VE REVIEWED YOUR BACKUP TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO READ THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RFP 22CCP01B, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE ANY DISCUSSION, IF NOT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ITEM 32 DISCUSSION.

[32. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of the day of week on which Commissioner Court shall convene for the 2023 Fiscal Year.]

IF IT'S YOUR PLEASURE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT OR WE CAN CONSIDER GOING BACK TO MONDAY.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S JUST SOMETHING COMMISSIONER ROLANDS JUST NEVER GOT ON BOARD, EVEN AFTER THREE YEARS.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, I LIKE TUESDAYS.

OKAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR TUESDAY? I'LL SO MOVE, WE HAVE A SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS FOR FY 2023.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES.

[33. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between the County and LCRA, for radio services.]

WE HAVE FORMER JUDGE BOND HERE.

I THINK HE'D LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS BEFORE WE TAKE OFF WITH THIS.

THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

COMMISSIONER B.J., BARBARA ED AND JOE KNOW ALL OF YOU ON A PERSONAL BASIS.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR SIZABLE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN

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YOU'VE GOT IT SITTING IN YOUR BUDGET.

YOU CAN SPEND IT ON MANY THINGS.

MY INTENT TODAY IS TO ASK THE COURT TO POSTPONE THIS VOTE UNTIL SOME REASONABLE DISCUSSIONS TO INCLUDE ALL THE PLAYERS.

TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO FIX THE SITUATION.

I READ THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY NIGHT, SITTING IN MY EASY CHAIR WATCHING TELEVISION, AND I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA AND ABOUT FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR.

THREE POINT WHATEVER, MILLION DOLLARS ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL, AND I'M SORRY JUDGE YOU AND I KNOW THE HISTORY OF COMMUNICATIONS AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN BAPTIZED INTO THE TELECOMMUNICATION WORLD. TO COIN AN OLD PHRASE OF DRINKING OUT OF A FIREHOSE, YOU WERE FORCED TO DO THIS AND BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTY TO MAKE DECISIONS, PRUDENT DECISIONS ON THE RADIO NETWORK, PUBLIC SAFETY NETWORK, WHICH UNDER MY TENURE 22 YEARS WITH A VENDOR THAT PROVIDED ALL THE EQUIPMENT TO THE COUNTY, ALWAYS COST EFFECTIVE, ALWAYS PIECEMEAL, WHATEVER WE COULD AFFORD, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF THE GRANTS, AND THEN I BECAME A PUBLIC SERVANT.

I SAID RIGHT THERE, AND I SAT RIGHT THERE.

AND I CONTINUED TO BE THE ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS.

I HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF THE JOINT SYSTEM, WHICH WE HAVE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE TWO CITIES.

LOCKHART AND LULING HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING AARON SLAUGHTER AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHO WAS A TECH GURU, AND HE JUST HE HE JUST TOOK CARE OF ALL THAT REQUIREMENT.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT, AND THEN I HAD MARTIN RITCHIE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND HE WAS THE SAME WAY, AND WHAT HAPPENED? YOU KNOW, GOOD PEOPLE GET BETTER SALARIES, GET HIRED AWAY.

AARON GOT HIRED BY DPS AND HE IS A MANAGER IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS TODAY, AS YOU KNOW.

MARTIN RICHIE, WHERE IS HE? HE'S AT CAPE COD.

WHAT DOES HE DO? HE MANAGES ALL THE GRANTS, THE GRANTS THAT I HAD TO WORK WITH IN THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR ONLY SOURCE OF MONEY. IT WASN'T TAXPAYER MONEY LOCALLY.

IT WAS FEDERAL MONEY, FEDERAL GRANTS, AND SO, LONG STORY SHORT, THOSE ASSETS LEFT, THOSE EXPERTISE LEFT.

THEY FELL ON THE JUDGE TO HANDLE THIS, AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF I CUT MY NOTES RIGHT, I THINK IT WAS IN 2007, WE ADDED THE LULING SITE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE CONNECTIVITY, AND THERE'S A LONG STORY ABOUT THE TWO TELEPHONE LETTERS SOUTHWESTERN BELL HERE, GENERAL TELEPHONE IN LULING, WHERE THE IRON MOUNTAIN TOWER IS . COULDN'T AFFORD A T ONE.

SO WE WENT WITH A MICROWAVE WITH A MICROWAVE FREQUENCIES, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, ARE NOT PROTECTED.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT.

THERE ARE FREQUENCIES IN THE SAME VICINITY THAT WILL INTERFERE, AND OVER TIME THEY DETERIORATED THE MICROWAVE, THE PATH WENT OUT. IT WAS INTERMITTENT.

I USE THE TERM SITE TRUNKING.

JUDGE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COURT DOES.

SITE TRUNKING IS YOU'RE IN THE COVERAGE OF THE TOWER THAT YOUR RADIO CAN FIND.

SO THERE'S ONE HERE AND THERE'S ONE IN LULING, AND WHEN THAT LINK IS OUT, WHAT DOES THAT LINK DO? THAT LINK TIES THE TWO TOWERS TOGETHER FOR A SEAMLESS RADIO NETWORK.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK, BUT OVER TIME, THAT LINK WENT OUT AND YOU WENT, IF YOU WERE IN LULING, YOU WENT FROM IN AND OUT OF COUNTYWIDE COVERAGE.

OKAY, WE'LL JUST PROGRESS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE JUDGE IS DEALING WITH COMPLAINTS FROM THE LULING PD.

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I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT I KNOW YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S A FACT.

YEAH. OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO SIT BACK AND REEVALUATE.

THEN THE COUNTY PROGRESSED.

GOT A GRANT FROM CAPCOG CALLED AND GOT THE FENTRESS TOWER.

OKAY, THEY GOT THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE TOWER BECAUSE THE GRANT WAS WRITTEN FOR THE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO GO ON A LEASE TOWER.

THE JUDGE DIDN'T WANT TO GET ON A LEASE TOWER.

I DON'T BLAME HIM. I WOULDN'T EITHER.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE BEHOLDEN.

SO THE COUNTY HAD TO FOOT THE BILL TO BUY A TOWER, HAVE IT ERECTED.

FRUSTRATION LEVELS RISING.

THE JUDGE IS GETTING UPSET.

WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. WE THOUGHT THE GRANT COVERED THAT MISCOMMUNICATION.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION, BUT WITHOUT THE RESOURCES THAT I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, THE JUDGE HAS TO RELY ON HIMSELF.

HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT AND SAY, WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE? HOW DO WE FIX THIS? I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU.

I ACTUALLY DID REACH OUT TO THEM FOR THREE, ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

SAY AGAIN. I ACTUALLY DID REACH OUT TO GATRRS AND MOTOROLA FOR THE LAST ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

OKAY. OKAY.

FRUSTRATION LEVEL.

OKAY. SO NOW WE HAVE EMOTIONS INVOLVED IN THIS, AND I'D BE RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.

I HAVE EMOTIONS.

I WANT TO GET THINGS FIXED, BUT ALSO FROM A TAXPAYER, AND I KNOW THIS MONEY IS GOVERNMENT MONEY, BUT GUESS HOW THAT MONEY COMES THERE. IT COMES FROM YOUR INCOME TAX, BUT YOU'RE FORTUNATE YOU HAVE THAT MONEY.

SO WHAT'S THE PRUDENT THING TO DO TO FIX YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM, WHICH IS STATE OF THE ART AT THE TOWER SITES? WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO AND WE DON'T HAVE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN YOUR FENTRESS TOWER.

OKAY, SO WOULD IT BE COST EFFECTIVE TO USE A PORTION OF YOUR GRANT MONEY AND FIX THAT? OR WOULD IT BE BETTER TO GET RID OF WHAT YOU GOT AND START FROM SCRATCH? SO DO YOU WANT TO BE IN THE TOWER BUSINESS OR DO YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN YOUR CURRENT RADIO NETWORK? GIVE YOU A REALLY PERSONAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT I JUST SAID? DID A REMODEL ON OUR HOUSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TORE OUT ONE OF THE BATHROOMS AND WE FOUND WE HAD TERMITES IN THE WALL.

WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU'RE GOING TO FIX THAT OR YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN AND START OVER.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S KIND OF A CRUDE ANALOGY, BUT DON'T GIVE UP WHAT YOU HAVE.

YOU OWN THE FREQUENCIES, THE CITY OWNS THE FREQUENCIES, YOU PAY THE CITY TO MANAGE AND PAY FOR THE SERVICE AGREEMENT, AND I THINK IT COMES OUT TO X DOLLARS PER RADIO, AND SO IT'S A DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN ALL THE USERS.

YOU HAVE A LITANY OF USERS TO INCLUDE TXDOT, DPS, ALL YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF YOU DITCH THE WHOLE SYSTEM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? SO I'VE HEARD THAT TWICE NOW ABOUT TXDOT AND DPS.

SO IS THE STATEMENT THAT HAYS AND GUADALUPE AND OTHER COUNTIES WHO ARE ON THE LCRA SYSTEM CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH TXDOT OR DPS? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

YOU JUST SAID GATRRS ALLOWS US TO COMMUNICATE WITH TXDOT AND DPS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON GATRRS.

I DON'T THINK I SAID GATRRS.

GATRRS IS THE NETWORK, THE FIBER OPTIC NETWORK THAT TIES IN ALL OF THE CAPCOG COUNTIES FROM WEST AND EAST AND THE EAST IS BEHIND BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOT ALL THE GRANTS THAT THE WESTERN ONES HAVE , BUT EITHER EITHER SYSTEM WILL COMMUNICATE WITH TXDOT.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO INTEROPERABILITY.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT INTEROPERABILITY IN THE COUNTY JUDGE, AND YOU HAD JUMPED TO INTEROPERABILITY IN CAPCOG REGION, [INAUDIBLE] BROUGHT IT UP TWICE.

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THE IMPLICATION SEEMS TO BE THAT THE LCRA SYSTEM WOULD NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY.

NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M SAYING YOU HAVE IT NOW WITH YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM IN THE BUILDOUT, THAT CAPCOG AND HOMELAND SECURITY, WHICH I SERVED ON FOR 15 YEARS, HAS BEEN TO DEVELOP AND BUILD OUT THAT NETWORK WITH THE GRANT FUNDS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE, AND WE KNOW THERE'RE SOME SITTING UP THERE WAITING TO BE DISTRIBUTED.

YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.

THEY'RE NOT WAITING.

THEY'RE STILL AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN. THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY THAT YOU [INAUDIBLE]S.

THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN GET CLARIFICATION FROM THAT AND THAT'S NOT ME.

THAT WOULD BE MARTIN. I KNOW THAT'S A FACT.

YEAH, AND JUDGE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BELITTLE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

YOU HAVE TAKEN THE BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF CALDWELL COUNTY TO DO A TOTAL TRADE OUT OF THEIR SYSTEM FOR SOMETHING.

I'LL CALL IT BLUE SKY FOR BLUE SKY.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BLUE SKY OUT THERE FOR A BETTER DAY TOMORROW, AND THAT'S WHAT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SELLING.

THEY'RE SELLING BLUE SKY, AND YOU'LL TELL ME THAT SAN MARCOS HAS IT.

HAYS COUNTY HAS IT.

GUADALUPE COUNTY HAS, YEAH.

OKAY, THAT'S TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY TODAY IS NOT IT LEADS TO THE FACT THAT SYSTEM WORKS WELL ALSO, AND I'VE ASKED I HAVE ASKED MOTOROLA AND GATRRS FOR THREE YEARS BEFORE I EVER ASKED LCRA TO GIVE US A SOLUTION, AND I HAVE TO DATE NOT GOTTEN A BID PROPOSAL FOR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE THAT SYSTEM OPERATIONAL AS OF TODAY.

LET ME LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

IS THIS GOING TO BE A SOLE SOURCE OR IS THIS GOING TO BE AN RFP BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT VENDOR? I HAVE ASKED OUR CURRENT VENDOR FOR A BID.

I'VE ASKED THEM FOR A PROPOSAL FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN ALLOW THEM.

WELCOME TO COME UP.

SO I'D LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THE PRUDENT THING TO DO WITH YOUR GRANT MONEY, THERE'S A PROJECT THAT THIS COURT COULD BE VERY PROUD OF IF YOU COULD GET IT DONE, BECAUSE I THINK THE SHERIFF AND THE LOCAL EMERGENCY SERVICES ALL SUPPORT IT, AND THAT'D BE A COMBINED DISPATCH OR CO-LOCATED DISPATCH.

YOU HAVE MONEY TO DO SOME OF THAT STUFF.

WE DO. THE OTHER ENTITIES HAVE TO AGREE TO DO IT, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE ONE ENTITY THAT IS [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, AND IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY GET THE ACOUSTICS FIXED IN THIS ROOM, PUT SOME CARPET DOWN, PUT SOME CARPET ON THE WALL.

I WAS DEALING WITH THAT WHEN I WAS HERE.

IT'S NOT THE BEST, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING YOU SPEAK SOMETIMES.

AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A HISTORICAL BUILDING AND WE CAN'T PUT CARPET ON THE FLOOR, THEY WON'T [INAUDIBLE].

WE USED TO HAVE CARPET IN HERE.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

I'M A LITTLE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF MY TENURE 22 YEARS PLUS TEN.

THAT'S 32 YEARS THAT I MANAGED THIS SITUATION, AND I DON'T ENVY THE JUDGE HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT TODAY, BUT I THINK IN CLOSING A POSTPONEMENT, I DON'T CARE WHAT WHAT YOUR TIMELINE IS, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY TOMORROW.

BE PRUDENT ABOUT IT.

MAKE A GOOD DECISION, BUT LET BOTH BLUE SKY AND YOUR CURRENT VENDOR GIVE YOU A PROPOSAL. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU ONE, BUT I BET YOU THEY WILL IF YOU TELL THEM RIGHT HERE PUBLICLY TODAY THAT YOU WANT WANT.

I HAVE TOLD THEM UNTIL I'M BLUE IN THE FACE.

OKAY. A STACK OF EMAILS AS TALL AS THIS DAIS ASKING FOR A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM, WHICH HAS BEEN

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SO IT'S NOT A CHEAP FIX, AND THE IMPLICATION IT'S A CHEAP FIX IS NOT TRUE.

IT'S NOT A CHEAP FIX EVEN WITH THE TOWERS THAT WE HAVE.

NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, TWO OF THE TOWERS, ACCORDING TO MOTOROLA AND GATRRS, ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HOLDING UP THOSE MICROWAVES. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

THAT'S FROM THEM NOT NOT FROM US.

THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

IS THE EMC HERE IN THE COURTROOM? YEAH, HECTOR.

I WANT TO ASK HIM A QUESTION WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

COME ON, HECTOR.

I BECAME AWARE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID A YEAR AGO, AND I ASKED THIS GENTLEMAN, [INAUDIBLE] YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I ASKED YOU IF THE SHERIFF STILL HAS INNER CITY AND VHF [INAUDIBLE] , AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD CHECK ABOUT IT AND GET BACK TO ME.

TO THIS DAY, I DON'T KNOW, AND THAT IS DIRECTLY AFFECTING WHAT THIS JUDGE HAD ASKED.

THAT'S NOT HIS FAULT, THOUGH, TOM.

HE'S NOT THE PROVIDER OF THESE SERVICES.

IT'S NOT HIS FAULT THOSE ANTENNAS ARE ON THAT TOWER.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CAN COME DOWN AND ALLEVIATE THE LOADING ISSUE.

EXACTLY. WHICH IS, BUT HERE'S MY PROBLEM.

HERE'S MY PROBLEM.

THE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM.

RIGHT, AND HAVE WE MET? WELL, HAVE WE MET MORE THAN ONCE? HOW MANY TIMES HAS EVERYBODY ELSE MET WITH ME? CAN YOU COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE? WE'VE MET ONCE.

YOUR STAFF HAS SENT ME MANY EMAILS, AND I HAVE ASKED.

WE'VE MET, ACTUALLY, MORE THAN ONCE.

WE MET IN MY OFFICE. WE MET IN HERE IN THIS ROOM.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE MIC, AND I HAVE BEEN ASKING GATRRS AND MOTOROLA FOR A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM SINCE I BECAME COUNTY JUDGE AND A COST TO FIX IT.

SO BACK IN APRIL YOU GUYS RAISED CONCERNS OVER THE SITE TRUNKING ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING IN IRON MOUNTAIN.

WE HAD SOLD YOU ALL A MICROWAVE LINK THAT WE HAD NOT SHIPPED YET BECAUSE OF THE LOADING ISSUES IN LOCKHART, BUT WE HAD A $230,000 PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS COURT TO REPLACE THAT MICROWAVE LINK.

THE MICROWAVE LINK WAS NOT ABLE TO BE INSTALLED ON THE CITY LOCKHART TOWER BECAUSE IT WAS OVERLOADED, AND JUST LIKE YOU PAY RENT TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE TOWER OWNER WASN'T MEDIATING AND BEEFING UP THAT TOWER.

IN THAT TIME, THE TOWER OWNER WAS CHANGING HANDS AND WE WERE BEING TOLD THAT WITH THE NEW OWNERSHIP, THEY WERE GOING TO BEEF UP THAT TOWER TO ALLOW THAT MICROWAVE TO BE INSTALLED.

SO WE INTENTIONALLY HADN'T SHIPPED ANY OF THAT MICROWAVE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A HOME.

YOU GUYS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELED THAT ORDER AND SAID YOU NO LONGER NEEDED THAT MICROWAVE.

SO WE BEGAN DOING TESTING WITH AT&T AND YOU ALL AND GATRRS IN APRIL.

WE SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS TRYING TO GET SOME LTE LINKS TO WORK THROUGH A SERIES OF MONTHS TO TRY TO RESOLVE THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND ONCE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE CONNECTIVITY WITH AT&T AND BY THE WAY, WE WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THIS ON OUR TIME BECAUSE Y'ALL'S COMMENTS WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO NICKEL AND DIME Y'ALL AND WE TRULY DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO FEEL THAT WAY.

THAT WAS NOT MY COMMENT.

THAT'S WHAT WAS COMING BACK TO US.

SO THE LAST TIME WE MET, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MICROWAVE BEFORE YOU CANCELED IT, AND WE HAD ASKED FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM MY TEAM THAT WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THAT MICROWAVE WE JUST HAD.

Y'ALL JUST CANCELED THAT LINK, BUT BACK TO THE AT&T LINKS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO TRY TO GET THAT SITE FULLY FUNCTIONAL.

WE INSTALLED THOSE AT&T LINKS.

THERE WAS TOO MUCH INTERFERENCE VIA AT&T.

AT&T EVEN CAME OUT AND SAID, WE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK PROPERLY.

SINCE THEN, WE INVESTED MORE TIME IN ENGINEERING AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT WITH ONE OF OUR SYSTEM TECHNOLOGISTS AS OF LAST WEEK, AND WE'VE INSTALLED AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION THAT IS WORKING.

IT IS STABLE, IT IS FUNCTIONING, AND AGAIN, WE'VE DONE ALL THAT ON OUR TIME.

IT COST ME AND MY BUDGET ABOUT $70,000 TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION AND WE WANTED TO ALLEVIATE THAT

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THAT I APPRECIATE AND IT IS WORKING, BUT THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE HAS BEEN I AGREE IT HAS BEEN A POINT OF FRUSTRATION AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO RESOLVE THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT WITHOUT A COST TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE FRUSTRATION WE REALLY HAVE BEEN, AND WE'VE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF HOURS TO TRY TO DO THAT, BUT AS OF NOW, IT'S WORKING, AND AGAIN, WE'VE DONE THAT 100% ON OUR COST BECAUSE WE ARE A LONG TERM PARTNER OF THE COUNTY.

WE'VE BEEN A PARTNER OF THE COUNTY FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY FOR 17 YEARS.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.

I APPRECIATE THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

SO I GUESS ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

IT'S KIND OF AN OBVIOUS ONE.

IF THAT SOLUTION FOR $70,000 IS WORKING, WHY HAS IT TAKEN US THIS LONG TO PUT A SOLUTION LIKE THAT INTO EFFECT? BECAUSE WE'VE THE FRUSTRATION OVER THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS, NOT JUST SINCE APRIL.

YES. SO I'M NOT AWARE OF YEARS OF FRUSTRATION.

I'M AWARE SINCE APRIL, WHEN YOU ALL SAID THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE AND THE CITY OF LULING WITH THAT LINK GOING IN AND OUT OF SERVICE THE SYSTEM, AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN AND UPGRADE THE SYSTEM.

THE SYSTEM WAS 100% UP TO DATE SOFTWARE, HARDWARE, CYBERSECURITY, PATCHES, EVERYTHING.

IT WOULD BE THE EXACT SYSTEM IF YOU WERE TO PLACE, YOU KNOW, AN $8 MILLION RADIO SYSTEM ORDER WITH US TODAY.

WHAT YOU HAVE ON THOSE TOWERS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD DELIVER TODAY.

IT'S THAT PARTICULAR LINK BETWEEN LOCKHART AND IRON MOUNTAIN THAT'S 15 YEARS OLD.

IT'S BEEN DEGRADED AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT WITHOUT A COST TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE WE KEPT HEARING YOUR FRUSTRATION OVER, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL COST, AND SO WE TRIED TO TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP OF THAT.

EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR CONTRACT, WE STILL TRIED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT TO TAKE CARE OF THE COUNTY.

IT TOOK LONGER THAN EXPECTED.

I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I MEAN, THE FACT REMAINS THAT IRON MOUNTAIN TOWER WON'T HOLD A MICROWAVE.

LOCKHART TOWER WON'T HOLD A MICROWAVE.

I'M I'M NOT GOING TO BRING FIBER TO A TOWER THAT WON'T HOLD A MICROWAVE SO WE CAN BACKHAUL.

SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ME? BUILDING TWO TOWERS AND PUTTING ALL NEW EQUIPMENT ON IT.

OH, ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT SO YOU COULD BUILD TWO NEW TOWERS FOR CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN SCRAPPING YOUR ENTIRE RADIO SYSTEM AND THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER. YOU CAN BUILD THE TOWER INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE THE COUNTY AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SUGGESTED EARLY ON IS THE COUNTY WOULD OWN THOSE TOWERS AND NO LONGER PAY RENT TO ANYONE ELSE, AND IF YOU OWN THOSE TOWERS, YOU CONTROL THE DESTINY OF THOSE TOWERS AND YOU CAN CONTROL WHO GOES ON THOSE TOWERS, BUT YOU CAN BUILD TWO NEW TOWERS FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICE OF JUST REPLACING THE ENTIRE RADIO SYSTEM, BUT JUST JUST TO REMIND YOU NOW, THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE IS UP OPERATIONAL AND IT IS WORKING WITHOUT MICROWAVE.

WE'VE DONE THAT AGAIN ON OUR COST, AND IT'S YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DATA.

I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN IT.

IT'S GOOD. I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN IT.

SO IT'S AND AGAIN IT'S NOT THAT WE OR WE'RE SITTING BACK JUST SAYING OH WE'LL FLIP THE SWITCH WHENEVER WE FEEL LIKE IT.

WE'VE BEEN HONESTLY WORKING LOTS OF HOURS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION THAT DIDN'T COST THE COUNTY ANY MONEY BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS A BIG FRUSTRATION.

IT HAS BEEN A HUGE FRUSTRATION, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE EASILY COME TO YOU GUYS WITH A $500,000 TO PUT A NEW TOWER UP, BUT WE THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS DESIRED BY THE COUNTY.

WE WERE HOPING THAT WITH THE NEW OWNERSHIP OF THE LEASED TOWER THAT YOU GUYS PAY LEASE FOR AND LOCKHART, THAT THEY WOULD REMEDIATE THAT JUST LIKE IF YOU RENT AN APARTMENT FROM A LANDLORD AND THE AIR CONDITIONER WENT OUT, WOULDN'T THAT BE THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES JOB TO FIX THAT AIR CONDITIONER? WOULD IT BE THE TENANT? I'M NOT BLAMING YOU FOR THE TOWER NOT BEING ABLE TO HOLD A MICROWAVE AT ALL.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S NOT MOTOROLA'S FAULT THAT THE TOWER WON'T HOLD THAT MICROWAVE.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT THE TOWER IS NOT BEING REMEDIATED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON IF THEY DO DECIDE TO REMEDIATE IT.

SO THAT LEAVES US BACK IN THE SAME PLACE.

PUT UP A COUPLE OF NEW TOWERS AND PUT SOME MICROWAVES AND EQUIPMENT ON THEM.

I UNDERSTAND WE OWN THE EQUIPMENT, BUT THE MICROWAVES ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE, NOR ARE THE TOWERS CORRECT.

THAT SOLUTION ALL BY ITSELF IS GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS.

YEAH THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE IS FULLY OPERATIONAL RIGHT NOW WITHOUT A NEW TOWER, AND ALSO ONCE WE'RE INSTALLING A SITE IN SAN MARCOS, ONCE THAT SITE IS INSTALLED, WE CAN ACTUALLY CONNECT FENTRESS AND THAT'S THE PLAN TO CONNECT FENTRESS BACK TO GATRRS.

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SO TO CONNECT VENTRESS BACK TO GATRRS, BUT TEMPORARILY, I'VE ALREADY APPROVED ANOTHER $70,000 OUT OF MY BUDGET TO CONNECT FENTRESS BACK TO THE NETWORK, THE SAME WAY WE'RE CONNECTING IRON MOUNTAIN.

THAT WORK CAN BE DONE IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS.

SO WITHOUT REPLACING THE LOCKHART TOWER WITHIN, I WOULD SAY THE NEXT 30 DAYS, BOTH SITES WOULD BE FULLY YOU'VE ALREADY GOT OUR MOUNTAIN UP AND RUNNING.

THE FENTRESS SITE WOULD BE FULLY UP AND OPERATIONAL UNTIL WE CAN TAKE THE MICROWAVE.

YOU'VE ALREADY PURCHASED.

THE COUNTY HAS A MICROWAVE THAT WE SOLD YOU GUYS FOR FENTRESS.

IT JUST CAN'T HANG IT ON THE LOCKHART TOWER SO WE WOULD SWING IT THE OTHER WAY AND GO BACK TO SAN MARCOS AND HANG IT ON THE SAN MARCOS TOWER.

OKAY, SO THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT TODAY.

WELL, YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE JUDGE BOND TOLD ME THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO YOUR PLEASURE, COMMISSIONERS.

I KNOW I'M VERY FRUSTRATED THAT IT'S TAKEN US FOUR YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT WHEN WE WHEN THAT SOLUTION HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR A LONG TIME.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SPENT $70,000 ON YOUR DIME TO GET US UP AND RUNNING, BECAUSE, FRANKLY, WE HAD AN EXTREMELY UNSAFE SITUATION IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR COUNTY, NOT JUST SINCE APRIL.

YEAH, I TAKE FULL OWNERSHIP ON THE FACT SINCE APRIL, THAT'S WHEN I'VE BEEN PLUGGED IN.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUES FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, BUT SINCE APRIL I AM WELL AWARE WHEN WE MET IN HERE TO GO OVER THE PLAN, I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE AND WE STARTED WORKING IMMEDIATELY ON THAT.

I WISH CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] OR SHERIFF LANE WERE IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME THE TRUNKING, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR. YES, SIR.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY FOR ME.

I HAVE PROBABLY QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD. SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK? IF WE SWITCHED, HOW WOULD IT WORK WITH THE OTHER CITIES? LULING AND LOCKHART, HOW DOES IT FUNCTION? ARE THEY TIED IN TO THAT OR ARE THEY LCRAS? NO. SO. SO EVERYBODY CURRENTLY IS ON THE GATRR SYSTEM AND THEN MOTOROLA SUPPLIES THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE GATRR SYSTEMS. OKAY. IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE SWITCH, EVERYBODY WOULD BE ON THE LCRA SYSTEM AND THE CITY, BOTH CITY AND THE TEAMS, THEY ALL EVERYBODY HAS TO CONVERT RADIOS AND ALL TO THE LCRA.

THAT'S CORRECT, AND IS IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE $3.5 MILLION? YES. SO ARE THE CITY ENTITIES ALSO ALSO MAINTENANCE IS INCLUDED IN THAT AND IT'S NOT INCLUDED NOW.

SO ARE THE CITIES PARTAKING IN PART OF THE COST OF THAT? YES. IS THIS MONEY PART OF OUR ARPA MONEY? YES. YEAH, WE DEDICATED THAT.

NO MATTER WHAT WAY WE GO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THAT ARPA MONEY ON THIS.

RIGHT. WE'RE ALLOCATING MONEY IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

I NOTICED IN OUR BACKUP RADIO PRICING SCHEDULE ON PAGE 225, THEY BLACKED OUT. I ASSUME.

WHAT WOULD BE THE MONTHLY DO WE HAVE? CAN WE GET A COMPARISON OF WHAT THE MONTHLY ROLL IS TO WHAT LCRA WOULD BE? I CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF SEE THAT BECAUSE ONCE IF WE SWITCHED, WE PUT ALL THAT MONEY OUT THERE, WE STILL GOT TO PAY THE MONTHLY.

WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE COMPARING, THE APPLES TO APPLES.

OKAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOUR STATEMENT OF APRIL AND UNDERSTAND HIS FRUSTRATIONS OF YEARS, BECAUSE I'VE ALSO HEARD IT FROM CONSTABLE'S ABOUT NOT HAVING THAT CONNECTION OUT THERE AND THAT SINCE APRIL YOU PUSHED YOURSELF AND THAT YOUR COMPANY SPENT 70,000 AND GOT SOMETHING UP AND RUNNING, AND THE INTENT IS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO CONNECT FENTRESS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DONE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE ONCE WE GET THAT COMPARISON OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING MOTOROLA AND WHAT WE WOULD BE PAYING LCRA, WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER VIEW OF WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES MIGHT BE.

AND THAT'S PART OF MY FRUSTRATION.

I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT PRICING AND I STILL DON'T HAVE AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TIRED OF WAITING FOR IT.

I'VE GOT VOLUNTEER FIREMEN.

I'VE GOT CONSTABLES, I'VE GOT SO DEPUTIES OUT THERE, AND UNTIL AND UNTIL WE WE GOT THIS FIXED, THEY WERE OUT THERE WHEN THEY STEPPED OUT OF THEIR CAR THEY HAD NO COMMS. YES. I TOOK A RIDE WITH SHERIFF LANE.

I TOOK A RIDE WITH SHERIFF LANE TO A RESIDENCE AND WE HAD NO RADIO CONNECTION AT THAT PROPERTY.

MOST OF THIS PROBLEM IS ALL IN MY PRECINCT, AND SO WE HAD NO CONNECTION.

SO IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING FOR HIM.

WE ENDED UP USING CELL PHONE TO COMMUNICATE AND LETTING HIM KNOW WHERE WE WERE IN CASE WE DIDN'T COME BACK.

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THEY HAVE A 350 FOOT TOWER IN [INAUDIBLE], AND THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE COUNTY TO OFFER.

THEY'VE NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME, NOT ONCE, NOT ONE TIME, EVER.

IF THEY TOLD YOU THAT'S NOT TRUE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO HECTOR, HANK.

THEY'VE GOT A SITE IN [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY'VE BEEN OFFERING.

MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY CAN BE TURNED ON TOMORROW.

[INAUDIBLE]. I CAN GET YOU THE EMAILS.

OKAY, BECAUSE WHOEVER IT IS IS NOT COMMUNICATING BACK TO THE COUNTY.

I CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU THE EMAILS.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF BEING IN A SHARED INFRASTRUCTURE IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN TOYS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS MINE AND I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON THE COUNTY LINE, AND THEN BASTROP COUNTY HAS A BIG SITE IN [INAUDIBLE].

THE BEAUTY OF USING A SHARED SYSTEM IS YOU GUYS CAN COLLECTIVELY ROAM BETWEEN THOSE SITES, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS DO WITH THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY SITES WITH SOUTHEAST COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENTS GOING OUT TOWARDS BASTROP, GOING WEST TOWARDS NORTHWEST TOWARDS AUSTIN.

YOU CAN ROAM OVER TO THOSE SITES.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BEAUTY AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE [INAUDIBLE] SITE, FOR AN EXAMPLE, IS TO FILL IN THAT [INAUDIBLE].

I THINK BOTH SYSTEMS OFFER THAT.

I'M SURE THEY DO.

I CAN'T SPEAK EDUCATEDLY ON THEIRS.

I'M JUST MERELY SPEAKING ON THE GATRR SYSTEM, BUT I CAN ARRANGE TO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] TURN ON RIGHT AWAY.

THEY'VE MADE THE OFFER. I'VE EVEN HEARD THEM, SO.

OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR? NO, I AM DONE.

I JUST WAS CURIOUS, JUDGE, YOU KNOW, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES, HOW THOSE HAVE GONE AND HOW THOSE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

AMONGST ALL THE PARTIES, I ASSUME.

WELL, OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T BE TO THIS POINT AS FAR AS THE LCRA SYSTEM.

CORRECT. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN OUR I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THEM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

THAT WORK FOR TRAVIS COUNTY OR THAT WORK FOR CAPCOG, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE WANTING TO STAY WITH THE GATRR SYSTEM.

BY AND LARGE, THE SO BOTH PDS ARE FIRE DEPARTMENTS OUR EMC HAVE STATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE SWITCH BECAUSE OF THEIR FRUSTRATION, BUT MAYBE WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW THIS ONE IS WORKING AND WORKING [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T SOLVE OUR PROBLEM.

IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX.

WE CAN MAKE WE CAN TURN FENTRESS ON AND GET [INAUDIBLE] LIT UP IRREGARDLESS OF THE DECISION YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO MAKE ELSEWHERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE BEST CHOICE FOR YOU IF YOU DECIDE IT'S STILL THE BEST CHOICE.

WE CAN STILL GET FENTRESS ON THE LINE AND SHOW YOU THE BENEFITS OF THAT [INAUDIBLE] TOWER , AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET FENTRESS LIT UP WITH THIS ALTERNATE METHOD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IRREGARDLESS IF YOU GUYS WALK OUT OF HERE TODAY WITH THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LCRA, WE'RE STILL GOING TO INVEST THE MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO GET FENTRESS RUNNING THAT IS APPRECIATED BECAUSE WE'VE NEEDED THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

YES, RIGHT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PLAN B IT HOWEVER EXPENSIVE THAT IT IS TO TO FIX THE SYSTEM AS YOU SEE IT NEEDS? UPGRADING. I MEAN, IS THERE A NUMBER OUT THERE? I MEAN, THE JUDGE MENTIONED SOME QUOTES THAT WERE SENT EARLY ON FOR THE TO REPLACE ALL THE MICROWAVE IN THE NETWORK.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE PRESENTED QUOTES FOR THE MICROWAVE.

WE NEED MORE THAN ONE, RIGHT? MORE THAN ONE MICROWAVE.

WELL, THE FENTRESS HAS A MICROWAVE LINK.

IT'S PART OF THE PROJECT. YOU ALREADY BOUGHT THAT.

YOU BOUGHT A SECOND ONE THAT YOU HAD ALREADY INVESTED WITH US.

THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVED IT THAT YOU ALL CANCELED THE ORDER ON THAT WAS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T PUT IT AT THE LOCKHART SITE.

YES, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL HAVE THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, FULLY OPERATIONAL.

THAT'S TEMPORARY.

CORRECT. SO WHAT IS THE BIG FIX? THE BIG FIX WOULD EITHER BE TO A.) MEDIATE THE LOCKHART TOWER.

IF THE OWNER ISN'T GOING TO MEDIATE IT, THEN LOOK AT A COST TO DO THAT, WHICH IS BASICALLY ADD ADDITIONAL STEEL TO THE TOWER TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST.

OR YOU COULD LOOK AT THE TOWER LOADING AND SAY WHAT'S NOT NEEDED UP THERE? AND IF THERE'S STUFF THAT'S UP ON THE TOWER THAT IS NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE VACATE EQUIPMENT FROM THE TOWER.

[02:05:03]

THE REASON WE DECIDED TO PUT THAT TOWER UP IN FENTRESS IS BECAUSE IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THE COST OF THE TOWER OVER 15 YEARS AND THE COST OF THE LEASE, WHICH BY THE WAY, WENT UP YEAR OVER YEAR, EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS, IT WAS ALMOST A QUARTER OF $1,000,000 OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE CEO, AND SHE'S IN 15 YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR CEO WAS FOR.

IT WAS ALMOST A QUARTER OF $1,000,000 CHEAPER TO ERECT A TOWER OVER THE COURSE OF THAT CO THAN IT WAS TO PAY FOR THE LEASE ON A TOWER , AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT POINT WHATSOEVER.

I 100% AGREE WITH YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD EVER CONSIDER REMEDIATING SOMEBODY ELSE'S TOWER.

JUST TALKING OPTIONS WOULD BE OPTION ONE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS NOT DESIRABLE.

OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO BUILD NEW STEEL, A NEW TOWER, AND MOVE ALL OF YOUR EXISTING EQUIPMENT OVER TO THAT NEW TOWER WHERE YOU OWN YOU OPERATE, YOU CONTROL THE FATE AND YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO PAY TOWER RENT.

YOU CAN BUILD NEW STEEL, THE NEW TOWER.

I'M NOT TALKING ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

THE EQUIPMENT IS ALL GOOD THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON THAT TOWER TO BUILD NEW STEEL AND MOVE YOUR EQUIPMENT OVER.

YOU CAN DO THAT FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST THAN TO REPLACE YOUR ENTIRE FULLY FUNCTIONAL RADIO SYSTEM.

SO, I MEAN, RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF OPTION A IS NOT DESIRABLE BY THE COURT, OBVIOUSLY THEN IT WOULD BE TO BUILD A NEW TOWER IN THE CITY OF LOCKHART THAT YOU GUYS OWN AND OPERATE AND CONTROL.

WE ALSO NEED ONE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, CORRECT.

IF YOU WANTED TO GET OFF OF THE IRON MOUNTAIN SITE AND [INAUDIBLE] HAVE TO REMEDIATE THAT ONE TOO, I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN AS MUCH TROUBLE IN IRON MOUNTAIN AS WE ARE AND LOCKHART BUT I WAS TOLD BY MOTOROLA THAT TOWER HAS TO BE REMEDIATED.

I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF ME.

WHERE DID YOU GET INFORMATION THAT IRON MOUNTAIN IS OVERLOADED? I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE I GOT IT.

I GOT IT FROM MOTOROLA.

I HAVE IT IN THE EMAIL THAT TOWER AND THAT TOWER.

THAT WAS THE ACTUALLY THE FIRST TOWER I WAS TOLD HAD TO BE REMEDIATED.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I WAS TOLD LOCKHART HAS TO BE REMEDIATED AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOT AN ANSWER ON THOSE TWO ANTENNAS ON THE LOCKHART TOWER. THEY HAVE A 7/8 INCH HELIX THAT'S ABOUT THAT BIG AROUND, AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THE LOADING.

IT'S THE ICE.

ASK MOTOROLA. I'M NOT A TOWER EXPERT.

I'M NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.

I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I WAS TOLD, AND I'M TIRED OF YOU COMING UP HERE AND TELLING ME I'M WRONG.

I WAS TOLD THAT BY MOTOROLA.

OKAY, HERE'S MOTOROLA.

I'M NOT MOTOROLA.

HE DIDN'T TELL ME THAT IT WAS PROBABLY BEN, BUT I'LL FIND THE EMAIL, BUT A SIMPLE THING TO DO BEFORE ANYBODY VOTES ON THIS ISSUE IS IF THOSE TWO ANTENNAS ARE UP THERE AND COME DOWN, YOU'RE LOADING IS NOT AN ISSUE.

WHY DO I GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT, TOM? WHY CAN'T WHY CAN'T I COUNT ON MOTOROLA AND GATRRS? [INAUDIBLE] WAIT, I'M NOT DONE.

I LET YOU TALK. IT'S MY TURN.

TO GIVE ME A LEGITIMATE FIRM PRICE ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO FIX THAT SYSTEM.

I STILL DON'T HAVE IT AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND I AM FRUSTRATED, OBVIOUSLY.

WHY CAN'T I GET A NUMBER ON THAT PROJECT? I CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER FOR THE [INAUDIBLE], AND THAT WAS PART OF THE EASTERN REGION AND BACKHAUL AND FIBER AND EVERYTHING TURNKEY SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU GAVE ME A QUOTE FOR A MICROWAVE.

THAT DOESN'T SOLVE MY PROBLEM.

SO CAN YOU GET WHAT HE'S BEEN ASKING? CAN YOU GET THAT? A TURNKEY [INAUDIBLE]? CAN YOU GET IT BY NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT? [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU. I THINK THE DISAPPOINTMENT IS FOR ME THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THIS MEETING TO EVEN GET TO THIS POINT, RIGHT? THAT'S FOR ME, THE REAL JUXTAPOSITION.

THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS IS COMING FROM, THAT THIS HAS BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT HAS TO COME TO THIS FORUM IN ORDER TO BE EVEN REMOTELY TAKEN SERIOUSLY. SO THAT FOR ME IS THE FRUSTRATION.

COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND I AM EQUALLY FRUSTRATED.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT THE JUDGE WAS HAVING TO PUT UP WITH THIS.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO.

SO JUDGE, IF I CAN ASK THAT TO TABLE THIS ITEM.

[02:10:05]

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.

CAN WE BE REAL SPECIFIC ON WHAT EXPECTATIONS WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE? YES, I WANT I WANT A COST FOR HOW MANY TOWERS IT'S GOING TO TAKE HOWEVER MANY MICROWAVES IT'S GOING TO TAKE, HOW MUCH FIBER IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET A BACKHAUL OR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A CONCENTRIC RING OF MICROWAVES FOR A BACKHAUL OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR US.

I WANT A NUMBER FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO ERECT THOSE TOWERS, TO GET THE EQUIPMENT ON THOSE TOWERS, TO PUT THE MICROWAVE ON THOSE TOWERS, TO HAVE BACKHAUL, THE WHOLE ENCHILADA BY NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE I HAVE ONE FROM LCRA, AND I ASKED THEM FOR IT AND THEY GOT IT FOR ME, AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS TO GET IT.

I 100% UNDERSTAND YOUR ASK.

WE PROBABLY NEED THAT BY YOU NEED IT BY NEXT WEEK, BY TUESDAY, TO GET ON THE AGENDA.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

YES, SIR. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE ASK 100% CLARITY AND WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU BY THE SIXTH.

THEN THE COMMISSIONERS CAN COMPARE BY THE APPLES TO APPLES FINALLY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. I'M A NAY.

4-1. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO ITEM 35, BECAUSE THE ITEM ABOVE IT AND THE TWO ITEMS BELOW IT ARE RELATED ITEM 35, DISCUSSION

[35. Discussion of GLO infrastructure grant roads.]

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

DAVID CLARK COULD NOT BE WITH US TODAY FROM [INAUDIBLE]; HE'S ILL, BUT I DO HAVE SOME NOTES THAT WE HAVE COMPILED THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU.

YOU MAY RECALL AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING, WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE GOING TO SCHEDULE ON SITE WALKTHROUGHS ON BLACK ANKLE, WITTER AND POLITICAL ROADS.

WE DID THAT ON SEPTEMBER THE 21ST.

ALL THREE ROADS ARE PAVED ON OUR WALKTHROUGH VISITS ON POLITICAL ROAD, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW IS THEY'RE ALL OPEN THE ROADS ARE ALL TRANSPORTATION IS OPEN.

WE'RE LETTING THE LOCAL TRAFFIC GO THROUGH THAT HELPED PACK DOWN THE PACKING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND ASK WAC TO SWEEP AND REMOVE THE LOOSE GRAVEL THAT IS STILL THERE.

THAT IS ALSO THE SAME ISSUE ON WITTER RD, AND BLACK ANKLE ROAD IS ABOUT ON SWEEPING THE ROADS.

AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF LETTING THE TRAFFIC PACK DOWN THE MATERIAL, [INAUDIBLE] WILL ISSUE AN ENGINEER'S LETTER OF CONCURRENCE ON POLITICAL ROAD THIS WEEK, AND AS SOON AS WE TAKE CARE OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON BLACK ANKLE AND WITTER, THEY WERE ALSO IN A POSITION TO OFFER THE LETTER OF CONCURRENCE FOR ALL OF THOSE THOSE TWO ROADS ON WITTER ROAD THERE WERE SOME DEBRIS LEFT FROM WHEN THEY REMOVED THE ORIGINAL PIPE CULVERT.

IT'S STILL SORT OF OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND WJC WILL DO THAT.

SO ALL THREE ROADS, WITTER, BLACK ANKLE AND POLITICAL ROAD ARE BASICALLY OPEN.

THEY'RE PAVED, AND WE'RE IN THE VERY FINAL STAGES OF GETTING THE LETTER OF CONCURRENCE FROM THE ENGINEER ON THAT BIGGS ROAD.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE ENGINEERS AND WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND THEY ARE SCHEDULING BIGGS ROAD CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN OCTOBER 17TH AND ORIGINALLY SAID IT WOULD TAKE BETWEEN 60 AND 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THAT WORK, AND A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD THIS MORNING WITH DAVID CLARK, WJC HAS COME BACK AND SAID THEY THINK THEY CAN HAVE THAT ROAD COMPLETED BY DECEMBER THE 14TH.

ON THE BIGGS ROAD SITE YESTERDAY WE SENT OUT NOTIFICATION TO THE LANDOWNERS THAT WHICH WE HAD TO ACHIEVE THE EASEMENTS ON TO ACCESS THE LAND. WE ALSO SENT A LETTER TO THE LULING ISD TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION WILL START ON OCTOBER 17TH AND THAT WILL THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME ALTERNATIVE PLANS ON BUS ROUTES, AND THEN WE ALSO THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT, WE SENT LETTERS TO ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE COUNTY ALERTING THEM TO THE FACT THAT BIGGS ROAD WILL BE CLOSED, AND WE SENT, ALONG WITH ALL THOSE NOTIFICATIONS, THE DETOUR ROUTE MAPS AND DETOURS OF THOSE PARTICULAR OF THAT PARTICULAR ROAD.

[02:15:02]

WE HAVE SENT A LETTER TO THE GLO ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

ALSO, WE NEEDED THE EXTENSION BECAUSE IT TAKES EXTRA AMOUNT OF TIME TO PROCESS ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAPERWORK OF CLOSING OUT A PROJECT.

SO WE'VE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION UP TO 90 DAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS FILLING OUT ALL THE PAPERWORK, BUT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT CUT, THAT DEADLINE TO ABOUT 60 DAYS. SO PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.

I JUST WANT TO PRESENT THAT UPDATE TO YOU.

THAT'S OUR CURRENT UPDATE ON THE GLO ROAD PROJECTS.

SO, DENNIS, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO DRIVE OUT TO BLACK ANKLE AND WITTER ROAD BECAUSE I DID SEE WHERE THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT THE ROADS ARE ASPHALTED AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY ASPHALT PER SE AS YOU CALL ASPHALT THERE.

LIKE THE ROCK AND SHOCK.

WE USE WHAT WE CALL THAT ACTUALLY, BUT BACK IN THE DAY, BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THE CONCRETE DEBRIS THAT WHERE THEY TORE DOWN THE OLD BRIDGE HAS NOW BEEN PUT DOWN IN THE CREEK BED AND ESPECIALLY WITTER ROAD, AND I WENT AND DID THIS. SO I CAN SEE WHAT I'M GOING TO SEE AT BIGGS ROAD, AND WITTER ROAD HAS LIKE A LOT OF THAT CONCRETE DEBRIS THAT'S TAKEN OUT THE VOLUME OF WATER.

THAT WOULD BE FLOWING THROUGH THE CREEK BED IF WE WERE TO GET A BIG FLOOD.

I MEAN, IT'S TAKING UP THE VOLUME.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY DIDN'T HAUL SOME OF THAT OFF.

I CAN UNDERSTAND HAVING SOME UP TOWARD THE BANK.

YES, TO CONTROL THE BANK SIDE, BUT THE BED PART OF THAT AND I WAS HOPING DAVID WAS HERE.

THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY DISCUSSION WITH HIM.

SOMETHING YOU CAN ASK HIM ABOUT.

WITTER ROAD WASN'T AS BAD, AND I GUESS BECAUSE THE BRIDGE ON WITTER WASN'T AS BIG AS THE ONE ON BLACK ANKLE.

WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIPRAP PROTECTION.

THIS WAS JUST THE BUSTED UP CONCRETE.

IT'S DOWN IN THE BED.

I MEAN ITSELF TAKEN UP A LOT, AND TO ME, I CAN SEE FALLING LIMBS, TREES, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, GETTING CAUGHT IN THAT AS WELL, CAUSING DAM ISSUES. LIKE I SAID, I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT.

ON WITTER RD, THEY SORT OF HAVE, MOST OF IT TO THE BANK SIDE, BUT BLACK ANKLE HAD A LOT RIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE.

LIKE THEY JUST THREW IT DOWN THERE AND THEY WERE DONE, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S TO HELP SLOW THE FLOW OF WATER MAYBE, BUT I CAN SEE THAT THE VOLUME TAKING UP, THE VOLUME OF THE WATER THAT WOULD FLOW THROUGH THERE, BOTH CREEKS ARE VERY [INAUDIBLE] WATER FLOW AND AN EROSION AS WELL.

YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE ENGINEER I'LL ASK THE ENGINEER REALLY LOOK AT BECAUSE I JUST WAS OUT IN THE AREAS AND I WANTED TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THEY DID.

OKAY. I DID HAVE ONE CITIZEN CONTACT ME THAT TRAVELS BLACK ANKLE, A FRIEND AND SAID, WELL, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ASPHALT IN THIS, AND I SAID, WELL, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO IT SAYS ASPHALT, BUT ACTUALLY IT WAS THE LITTLE ROCK AND STUFF THAT STILL FLYING UP IN THE DUST, AND THAT WAS NOTED ON THE WALKTHROUGHS THAT WERE DONE THAT THE LOOSE AGGREGATE WAS NOTED, WAS NOTATED AND WAS GOING TO BE KEPT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE KEEPING AN EYE ON IT TO SEE IF IT DID IMBED ITSELF INTO THE ROADBED OR IF IT DID NOT, AND IF IT DID NOT, THEN IT'S NOTATED IN THERE THAT IT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. YEAH, THAT'S THAT WAS ON ALL THREE SITES THAT HAD BEEN PAVED.

THAT WAS NOTATED IN THE FINAL WALKTHROUGH REPORT.

SO I MEAN IN OUR CONTRACT DID THEY IN THEIR BID, DID THEY BID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ASPHALT OR DID THEY BID THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS OTHER SOLUTION BECAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT ASPHALT.

OKAY, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

WE'LL WORK WITH THE ENGINEER ON THAT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE IF THEY BID ON ASPHALT, PUT THAT IN THERE, THEN IT SHOULD BE ASPHALT.

I WOULD GO.

ARE YOU DONE, DENNIS? YES, THANK YOU.

WHAT I HAD WAS JUST A COMMENT ON A PREVIOUS ITEM.

OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW WE TABLE ITEM 33.

HOWEVER, WE'VE NOW GIVEN ONE VENDOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON A PROJECT KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT THE OTHER VENDOR HAS BID.

SO I MAY MAKE THE SUGGESTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA THAT WE COME BACK AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION OF

[02:20:04]

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF I WAS IN LCRA SHOES, I WOULDN'T BE TOO HAPPY ABOUT MY COMPETITION KNOWING WHAT MY BID WAS.

I SEE THAT TOO, AND DIDN'T THINK OF THAT [INAUDIBLE] WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICATION ON LRCA IS NOT IN THERE IN THAT MONEY EITHER.

SO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THEY CAN'T SEE THEIR COMPARISON OF ITEM TO ITEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I STILL THINK WE SHOULD DO AN RFP.

NO, NO, I AGREE. I AGREE.

IF I CAN. DO YOU MIND IF I SAY ANYTHING? JUST WITH THIS GOING ON, IT NOW OPENS UP THE COUNTY TO BE SUPER VULNERABLE FOR ANY KIND OF PROCUREMENT ISSUES.

SO IF YOU DO WISH TO TABLE IT AND THEN WE CAN RECONVENE, DRAW UP A TYPE OF PROPOSAL FOR WHAT THE COUNTY'S NEEDS ARE AS FAR AS THE PROJECT GOES, AND THEN SOLICIT IT OUT FOR ARPA AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

THAT WAY IT JUST IT KEEPS EVERYONE IN COMPLIANCE.

THAT WOULD BE FINE. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE GIVEN ONE VENDOR A VERY UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER ANOTHER.

AT THIS POINT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AT ALL WITH THAT.

IS IT STILL A PROBLEM, THOUGH? I MEAN, WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT HAS THAT CONTROLS OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ASKING THEM FOR A WHAT THEIR PLAN IS FOR THE REPAIR OF THAT SYSTEM.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE PROCUREMENT.

YES, I WOULD SAY JUST TO BE SAFE, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOW PUBLICLY KIND OF HAVING TO VENDORS COMBAT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND A VERY EXPENSIVE ONE AT THAT.

SO WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN DRAW UP YOUR PROPOSAL AS WHAT THE COUNTY'S ISSUES ARE AND HAVE EVEN THOUGH MOTOROLA IS OUR CURRENT VENDOR, WE CAN STILL PUT OUT A PROPOSAL OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE AT HAND HOW THEY CAN EITHER FIX IT OR HAVE COMPETITORS COME IN AND COMPETE AGAINST.

AT THIS POINT, I JUST THINK I WANT AN RFP PERIOD BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF THE SITUATION.

SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM IF WE WOULD HAVE VOTED TO APPROVE.

NO, NO, BECAUSE UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE, WE HAD AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND WE WERE ABLE TO JUST GO WITH THE SINGLE SOURCE VENDOR, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE GIVEN ANOTHER VENDOR THEIR PRICE TAG AND WE'RE ALLOWING IT TO BE IN OPEN COURT, SO THEN THAT TAKES OUT THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY CASE THAT THERE WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN WITH BEING ABLE NOT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AREN'T SUBJECT TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING AND THE LCRA IS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY AND SUBJECT TO THE INTERLOCAL, WHICH ALSO REMOVES THAT.

WE WERE KIND OF PUT ON THE SPOT THEN TODAY BECAUSE I MEAN WE WERE GIVEN A NUMBER THAT WE WERE TASKED WITH EITHER APPROVING WITH NO KNOWLEDGE AT ALL GIVEN TO US AS TO WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS.

OKAY.

WE'LL GO FORWARD.

I'M TIRED OF ARGUING ABOUT WE CAN COMPARE WHAT WHAT THEY WE GO OUT FOR THE BID AND WE COMPARE WHAT THE RESTRUCTURING OF MOTOROLA IS, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE NEW AND WE LOOK AT WHAT IT WHAT'S THAT'S GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE FOR YEARS.

WE COMPARE WHAT WE KNOW THAT'S NEW AND POSSIBLE.

IS THAT GOING TO BE BETTER FOR US THAN IN TWO YEARS? WE TURN AROUND AND WE'RE SPENDING ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS WITH MOTOROLA BECAUSE SOMETHING FAILED.

MY PROBLEM WITH THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT MOTOROLA AND GATRRS HAVE BEEN HEARING MY FRUSTRATION FOR FOUR YEARS, AND UNTIL THERE IS ANOTHER DOG IN THE HUNT AND YOU HEARD HIM SAY IT, I JUST WANT TO SELL YOU A COUPLE OF MICROWAVES AND THAT'S OUR SOLUTION.

AND THEN NOTHING RESOLVED AT A MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO FIND OUT THAT THERE IS INDEED A SOLUTION TO FIX IRON MOUNTAIN TEMPORARILY AND IT GETS DONE, AND NOW THAT'LL WORK AT AT FENTRESS TOO? A TOWER THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE NOT WORKING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THIS COMPANY THAT'S HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND FIX THEIR SYSTEM HASN'T DONE IT, AND SO NOW WE'VE PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION TO GIVE

[02:25:06]

BECAUSE ANOTHER COMPANY AND THIS IS MY OPINION AND I'M GOING TO EXPRESS IT, ANOTHER COMPANY CAME FORWARD AND GAVE US A VIABLE SOLUTION WITHIN ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND TESTED IT AND PROVED THAT IT WORKED, WHICH MOTOROLA HAS YET TO DO.

WE GOT FIVE DAYS WORTH OF DATA OFF ONE TOWER.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY WE CAN MOVE ON, BUT THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

IF SOMEBODY DEALT WITH ANY OF OUR BUSINESSES IN THAT MANNER.

THERE'S NOT A PERSON SITTING UP HERE THAT WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO, COMMISSIONERS, ONE THING WE CAN DO IN THAT REQUEST FOR BID IS BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THAT THE SERVICES WOULD BE.

POTENTIALLY THIS COULD ALLOW LCRA TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEY THINK THE COST OR WHAT THE COST TO DO.

THOSE SAME SERVICES THAT MOTOROLA IS PROPOSING, AND WE COULD SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO VALUES.

THIS WOULD, ONE, POTENTIALLY PROTECT WHAT THE BID IS FOR THEIR TOTAL RESTRUCTURING OF OUR SYSTEM, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING.

WE WOULD BE REQUESTING SPECIFICALLY WHAT MOTOROLA THINKS THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FIX IT, AND THEN LCRA CAN DEMONSTRATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY THINK THAT IS ALSO THE COST BY THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT BID FOR THAT KIND OF A TEST BID.

WELL, WE CAN BRING IT BACK.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE CAN HASH ALL THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS ONE IS CLOSED UNLESS YOU WANT TO REOPEN IT, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO NOW FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO PROCUREMENT WISE AND GO FORWARD , BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG FOR WHAT ELSE THE CRA IS GOING TO CHARGE FOR A VERY GOOD FIX THAT EVERY RESPONDER GROUP IN OUR COUNTY LIKES , AND CAN'T BRING THIS STUFF TO YOUR GUYS' ATTENTION UNLESS I DO IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM, WHICH I DID, BUT AT THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON. YOU SAID IT, COMMISSIONER, YOUR CONSTABLES ARE COMING TO YOU IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY FOR EVER, AND SO IS THE FIRE.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS JUST CROPPED UP AND IT'S NOT LIKE I JUST MENTIONED IT AND I RESENT THE IMPLICATION THAT THIS JUST STARTED IN APRIL OF 2022.

ALL RIGHT. THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, IF YOU'LL INDULGE US JUST FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND KNOCK OUT THESE LAST COUPLE OF ITEMS. WE WON'T GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I PROMISE, AND MAKE YOU WAIT FOR THAT, BUT THAT WAY THE STAFF IS WAITING ON THESE ITEMS CAN GO BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG, LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS AS WELL.

SO WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I'LL GO TO ITEM 38 DISCUSSION, ACTION AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MEADOW VIEW ESTATES, CONSISTING OF

[38. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of the revised Preliminary Plat for Meadow View Estates Consisting of 45 residential lot on approximately 56.09 acres located on Bugtussle Lane & Mineral Springs Rd.]

KASI. OKAY THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO Y'ALL, I BELIEVE, BACK IN APRIL FOR MEADOW VIEW ESTATES.

THEY'VE SINCE THEN DECIDED TO REVISE THE PLAT, SO I'M JUST BRINGING IT BACK BEFORE Y'ALL TO LOOK FOR AN APPROVAL FOR A REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT, AND THEY ACTUALLY REDUCED THE LOTS FROM THE 40 ODD LOTS TO 19, AND THAT WAS THEIR REVISION.

THEY JUST REVISED WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLOT OF MEADOW VIEW ESTATES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MEADOW VIEW ESTATES.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 39 DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF A FINAL PLAT SHORT FORM

[39. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of an Order authorizing the filing of a Final Plat (Short Form Procedure) for Ridge View Estates located on Brite Rd.]

THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE SHORT FORM PLAT FOR LOTS.

IF YOU'LL SEE ALL OF MY BACKUPS, EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM DOUCET AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF THE COURT IS READY TO APPROVE THIS. COMMISSIONERS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE RIDGE VIEW ESTATES.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RIDGE VIEW ESTATES.

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ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD.

I'LL SAVE 34.

SINCE IT'S DISCUSSION ONLY, WE'LL GO TO 36.

I'M TRYING TO DECIDE WHICH ONE BE BETTER.

WE'LL GO TO 36.

[36. Discussion/Action to consider approval of an agreement between Caldwell County and 130 Environmental Park, LLC, for waste disposal services and community development.]

IF THEY FAIL TO DO ANY PART OF THIS PROPOSAL, THEN WE WOULD CITE THEM $12,000 A POP.

IF THEY GO BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR HOURS LATER, THAT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE THEN YOU'RE CORRECT.

THAT WOULD GIVE THE COUNTY CAUSE TO PURSUE LEGAL ACTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE GOT MUCH FURTHER INTO THIS.

JUDGE, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME, AS YOU DID, LOOKING AT THIS AND TRYING TO TRYING TO WORK OUT THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. THEY STARTED OUT REQUESTING TO AMEND THEIR APPLICATION FOR 24 SEVEN OPERATIONS.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF, AND I KNOW THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF IT EITHER.

AS A RESULT OF THIS AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE AMENDED THEIR APPLICATION TO LIMIT IT TO SATURDAY OPERATIONS, WHICH TO ME IS A LOGICAL TIME FOR A LANDFILL TO BE OPEN.

IT PROVIDES FOR FOLKS THAT ARE CAN'T GET THERE DURING THE WEEK AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THERE ON THE WEEKEND WHEN THEY'RE MAYBE OFF FROM WORK. IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THAT TO ALLOW FOR THE COUNTY RESIDENTS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISPOSE OF A PICK UP LOAD OF TRASH PER WEEK IN CALDWELL COUNTY.

WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH FOLKS DUMPING ON THE ROADS AND ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAYS IN THE COUNTY, AND WE SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY DEALING WITH THOSE PROBLEMS TO THE TUNE OF 900,000 A YEAR FOR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT, AND I FEEL THAT PROBLEM IS EXACERBATED BY KIND OF SOME DEMOGRAPHIC FACTORS IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK A LOT OF OUR FOLKS CAN'T AFFORD A TRASH COMPACTOR CONTRACT.

I KNOW I HAVE ONE AND IT GOES UP ALL THE TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP OVER ALMOST $40 A MONTH.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A LOT OF FOLKS TO PAY TO HAVE THEIR TRASH PICKED UP, AND I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS AREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, THEIR TRASH COLLECTS AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO GET RID OF IT, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT SOMETIMES MEANS IT'S DUMPED SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY . AT ONCE A WEEK, BEING ABLE TO TAKE A PICK UP LOAD.

IF WE CAN GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE AND A BIG PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.

THERE'S ALSO OTHER BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

I DO FEEL FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT THERE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT WHAT YOU DEAL WITH EVERY DAY IS ISN'T REAL AND ISN'T TERRIBLE TO YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY THAT THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT WORSE AND CAN IMPROVE THE POTENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY.

SO I SUPPORT THIS AGREEMENT AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET THE GET THESE THINGS ESTABLISHED IN THE COUNTY AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION WITH THE

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GO AHEAD. OKAY.

YEAH, I KNOW MOSTLY ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT REALLY IN CLOSE VICINITY TO THE LANDFILL AND NOBODY WORKED HARDER THAN I DID TO PREVENT THEM FROM COMING HERE.

I MEAN, I LOST A LOT, AND I GAINED A LOT OF A LOT OF GOOD FRIENDS.

BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WAS AGAINST IT ALL THE WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO TAKE ONE OF THE SENTENCES THAT MISS LINDA MADE IS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. YOU KNOW, I ALREADY I BELIEVE THAT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN ME, THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THEM TO GET MORE HOURS, TO KEEP MORE NOISE FOR PEOPLE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GOING THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH BECAUSE OF THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING IN THE LANDFILL.

NOW, I HAVE BEEN IN THERE MYSELF.

I HAVE TAKEN SOME OF MY STUFF THERE, AND YOU KNOW, THEY GOT IT NOW TO WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT IN ONE OF THOSE CONTAINERS.

YOU KNOW, YOU PUT YOUR TRASH IN THERE AND REALLY THE PRICES ARE NOT BAD.

SO I JUST WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR NOW IS FOR MY CONSTITUENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE NOISE AND THE WORK AFTER 5:00.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY AGAINST THAT, BUT I THINK BEFORE I INTERRUPTED YOU, I WAS ABOUT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THIS APPLICATION, THE AMENDMENT.

IT'S THAT PART'S DONE ALREADY.

SO BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THERE BEFORE THEY MOVED IN IS THEY SOLD THEIR PLACES AND LEFT OFF.

SO I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT ANY MORE TEARS IN THEIR EYES.

COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL JUST ADD A FEW THINGS.

YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO TAKE HOUSEHOLD WASTE OR SOME SORT OF BULKY ITEM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO THINK IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF LOCKHART NEGOTIATED THROUGH THEIR PROVIDER, SIMILAR KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCE, AND SO THEIR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, BUT IF YOU LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF CALDWELL COUNTY, YOU DON'T, AND THAT'S KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ME.

SO I DO THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO OFFER.

I MEAN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE THESE CLEANUP EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH THEY'RE COMMITTING TO FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS PACKED.

THEY'RE ALWAYS ALMOST AT CAPACITY BEFORE THE TIME OF OF ADVERTISED ACTUALLY EXPIRES BECAUSE THE DUMPSTER SPACE IS COMPLETELY FULL, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A DESIRE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FAR TO SEE THAT THESE TYPES OF OFFERINGS ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

I MEAN, WE SEE THAT ALREADY RIGHT NOW JUST WITH THE ONES THAT WE OFFER THROUGH GRANTS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME CONSIDERABLE THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE JUST WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISCOUNTED, SO TO SPEAK, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT, AND TO SPEAK TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SPOKE THIS THIS MORNING DURING CITIZENS COMMENTS, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK DURING THE WEEK SATURDAYS ARE THE ONLY CHANCES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THAT, AND SO THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT MOST PEOPLE'S WORK SCHEDULES ARE AND THAT'S JUST A FACT OF LIFE AT THIS POINT.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT AND WITH THOSE SPECIFICITIES AS THEY'RE SPELLED OUT.

OKAY. SO I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL AT THE LITTLE EVENTS THAT I'VE ATTENDED AND HAVE TOLD THEM ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST IN THE PRECINCT FOR [INAUDIBLE].

I'M TALKING ABOUT OUT IN MCMAHON OUT IN TILLMAN, AND I'VE ASKED THEM THEIR OPINION OF THIS AND THEY'RE LIKE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I COULD LOAD UP MY PICKUP LOAD ON SATURDAY AND TAKE IT, OR I COULD LOAD UP MY PICKUP LOAD ON WEDNESDAY AND TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LIMITING THIS TO THE COUNTY AS ONE DAY IT'S ANY DAY.

SO ANYBODY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE CITIES OR THE COUNTY, YOU COULD GO OUT AND TAKE YOUR TRASH ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

SOME PEOPLE LET'S TAKE WAL-MART MANAGERS.

THEY'RE NOT OFF ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

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THEY HAVE TO DO IT DURING THE WEEK IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOAD IT AND CLEAN UP, AND SO THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY PEOPLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH IT.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS AN 8 TO 5 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WE ALL WORK DIFFERENT HOURS.

WE'VE GOT NURSES, DOCTORS JUST ALL KINDS, AND SO FOR THE RESIDENCES OF THE WHOLE COUNTY, TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN UP WAS EXCITING TO THESE PEOPLE.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL HELP MY NEIGHBOR.

HE'S GOT SO MUCH STUFF AND I'LL TELL HIM BECAUSE THE REASON HE DON'T DO IT, HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE TO TAKE IT.

HE CAN'T AFFORD $80 UP NORTH TO GO TAKE HIS HIS TRUCK LOAD OF GARBAGE.

SO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEKEND THEY CAN LOAD UP A LOAD AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL START SEEING THAT CLEANUP.

PEOPLE DUMP THEIR MATTRESSES ALONG OUR CREEKS.

THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO TAKE THEM.

YOU CAN'T PUT THEM IN A DUMPSTER LOCALLY.

SOME PEOPLE DO. SOME PEOPLE USE PUBLIC DUMPSTERS THAT BELONG TO ENTITIES.

THEY GO AT NIGHT AND THEY FILL THEM UP.

I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE AND LET PEOPLE DO THAT CLEANUP.

I THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT.

I THINK THEY'LL SEE A LOT COMING IN THERE.

I TRAVELED UP ON 1327 IN CREEDMOOR, AND IF ANY OF YOU, I'LL TAKE THAT LITTLE RIDE AND RIDE DOWN THEIR ROAD ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE FACILITY, A HUGE SUBDIVISION GOING IN AND NOT WITH NOT NOT WITH TRAILER HOUSES.

THEY'RE GOING IN WITH HOMES, BIG HOMES, 300-$400K HOMES.

IT DID NOT DECREASE THEIR VALUE.

IF YOU LOOK ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE AND YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES DOWN THROUGH HOME ANVIL TRAIL AND THE AREA NEAR WHERE THIS FACILITY IS, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE NOT DECREASED.

MATTER OF FACT, YOU'LL SEE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE WENT IN AND THEY'VE SOLD THE PROPERTIES AND PEOPLE ARE THEY'RE LIVING.

I KNOW THERE ARE SELECT FEW IN A GROUP AND WELL UNDERSTOOD, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEPLACE TO TAKE OUR REFUGE.

WE DON'T ALL HAVE THE PEOPLE OUT THE AND OUT IN THE COUNTY DON'T HAVE.

TRASH PICKUP SERVICE IN ALL AREAS.

SOME DO, BUT THE MAJORITY DON'T.

WHEN YOU GET OUT IN THE DEEP END, LIKE AROUND WHERE THE JUDGE LIVES AND STUFF, NOT IN THAT AREA.

SO THEY FIND A PLACE TO TAKE IT.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE TRAILERS THAT HAVE LOADED UP BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS, AND THEN THEY TAKE IT UP TO CREEDMOOR AND THEY PAY TO DUMP IT. BUT THEY KEEP IT.

THEY KEEP IT FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT CAUSES? IT CAUSES THE VERMIN, THE MOSQUITOES, IT CAUSES BAD THINGS, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM WHERE THEY COULD TAKE IT ONCE A WEEK AND NOT HAVE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO SPEND MONEY FOR GAS TOO TO GET THERE, AND IT'S CLOSER.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND ONE GOOD THING THAT COMMISSIONER THERIOT POINTED OUT WAS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP IS THAT THIS GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY GO AND CITE SOMEBODY TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN GO TAKE SIX CUBIC YARDS A WEEK TO START CLEANING UP, AND IF THEY START SHOWING THAT CLEANUP EFFORT, THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP WILL NOT BE ON TOP OF THEM SO HEAVY, BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THOSE FINES.

THEY'RE PAYING THE FINES, BUT THEY'RE NOT CLEANING UP.

THEY'RE JUST PAYING THE FINES.

SO THEN THEY WAIT BACK AND THEY GET A FINE AGAIN.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT IN OUR COUNTY.

WE WANT TO CLEAN OUR COUNTY UP, AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, IS THAT WE HAVE THE FACILITY OPEN SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T OFF DURING THE WEEK CAN TAKE THEIR THEIR REFUGE, AND THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WORKS DIFFERENT SHIFTS.

I'M SURE THE MAJORITY IN HERE HAVE PROBABLY WORKED ODD SHIFT JOBS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT YOUR SECOND SHIFT WORKERS.

YOU KNOW, I AM IN FAVOR OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR THE PART OF THE COUNTY.

IT WAS I HEARD FROM A LOT OF COUNTY RESIDENTS WHEN THE CITY DID IT, AND THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED TO TAKE ANYTHING UP THERE.

THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COUNTY? IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN, AND SO NOW THESE PEOPLE ARE ARE ENGAGED IN WANTING TO SEE THIS, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MY PRECINCT I WENT OUT IN THAT WERE ACCEPTING.

I NEVER GOT ONE NEGATIVE COMMENT, AND I PROBABLY TALKED TO ABOUT 50 PEOPLE.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT A LOT, BUT I TALKED TO ABOUT 50 PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS I'VE BEEN AT, AND THAT WAS NOBODY.

THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE TO IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE AGAINST IT ARE GOING TO SAY, NOT IN MY BUT IT'S NOT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

THE WHOLE COUNTY IS OUR BACKYARD.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN COUNTY, BUT THE PROPERTY VALUES ON THAT ROAD IS NOT DECREASED IN THE SUBDIVISION STILL CAME IN.

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THIS ONE IS ALL THE WAY IN AND I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING OF IT YET OTHER THAN A DRIVE THAT GOES IN, YOU KNOW, AND I TOOK A TOUR OUT THERE AND I WATCHED THEIR TRUCKS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

I DROVE OVER TO [INAUDIBLE] ROAD LISTENING FOR THAT, AND I CONSIDER TO HAVE GOOD HEARING, AND I HEARD NOTHING, AND ONE LADY I THINK THAT WAS TALKING THAT CAME THEY ACTUALLY WENT IN THERE AND CHANGED THE BEEPING SYSTEMS OF IT SO IT WASN'T AS LOUD TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM BUT I AM TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

BEFORE WE GO TOO MUCH FURTHER, I NEED TO GET A MOTION [CHUCKLING] WE'VE HAD AN AWFUL LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH NO MOTION.

SO WE NEED A MOTION YET.

CAN I GET A MOTION FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS, AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL FREE TO COME UP.

I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE YOU FROM THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'M SO SORRY. PLEASE COME UP.

WERE YOU THROUGH, COMMISSIONER? I'M DONE. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

NO, NO, NO, NO. I HAD TO GET A MOTION AND SECOND.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT HE SAID TO YOU.

I APOLOGIZE. NO, WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY TIME TO TRY TO PRESENT ANY MORE ARGUMENTS, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS.

THE FIRST IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE TCEQ IS GOING TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION ABOUT WHETHER WASTE, ACCEPTANCE HOURS CAN BE EXTENDED ON SATURDAYS OR DURING THE WEEKDAYS, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON.

WE WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT THE REVISED APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED AT TCEQ.

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THEIR DATABASE.

WE CALLED THIS MORNING JUST TO MAKE SURE, AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS THAT A DRAFT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED AND IT'S NOT BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED WHEN IT'S FINALIZED OR IF IT'S FINALIZED.

THEN THERE WILL BE A WHOLE NOTICED PROCESS, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONTESTED CASE HEARING, AS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND THE TCEQ WILL DECIDE WHETHER THOSE HOURS SHOULD BE EXTENDED OR NOT, AND IT WON'T BE BASED ON THE COUNTY'S RESOLUTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR, AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT, AGAIN, THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, THIS IS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS.

IT DESCRIBES THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT NONCOMPLIANCE WITH OBLIGATIONS, AND THEN AND IT SAYS THAT IF AT ANY TIME DURING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, 130 EP IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH ITS OBLIGATIONS PROVIDED IN THE AGREEMENT, THEN YOU GET, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT FRANKLY AREN'T VERY MUCH.

THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT DOESN'T START UNTIL AFTER TCEQ APPROVES THE APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY AS REQUESTED BY 130 EP.

SO IF TCEQ AGREES TO EXTEND THOSE OPERATING HOURS AND AGREES TO ALLOW FOR WASTE DISPOSAL ON SATURDAYS AND AT 5 A.M.

ON WEEKDAYS, THEN YOU GET ALL OF THESE BENEFITS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON.

IN THE MEANTIME, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW WITHOUT ANY ASSURANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING IN RETURN. SAYING THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH WITH THIS WITH THIS COMPANY, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN SOLD ONCE ALREADY.

WHO KNOWS WHO THE COMPANY WILL BE BY THE TIME WE GET THROUGH THE WHOLE TCEQ PROCESS.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.

I THINK IT'S STILL MORNING.

DAVID GREEN, PRESIDENT OF IWSG, THE OWNER OF THE 130 ENVIRONMENTAL PARK.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS AND I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNSEL FOR ONE OF OUR COMPETITORS IN RESPONSE TO THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE COOPERATIVE SPIRIT WE'VE HAD WITH THE COUNTY AS WE WORK THROUGH THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. WE'RE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THE TERMS, AND I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THE GOOD FAITH AND WE'LL CHECK ON THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE DRAFT LANGUAGE.

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IT'S BEEN THERE. WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE TCEQ AND WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT STEP AS A GOOD FAITH GESTURE TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING THAT REGARDLESS OF THE AGREEMENT.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I'M HERE.

THANK YOU. CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, DAVID? YES.

IN YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE AGREEMENT, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT TODAY, EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND YOU EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, ARE THESE TERMS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY OR ARE THEY PENDING THE TERM OF THE EFFECTIVE UPON RECEIPT OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE TCEQ PERMIT? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WORDED, BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT ARE IN THERE, WE'D HAVE NO PROBLEM STARTING IMMEDIATELY. WE CAN'T SERVE ON SATURDAY.

[INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE OF THE OPPOSITION CONTESTED CASE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FILE, BUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO START THOSE IMMEDIATELY.

THE TEN YEAR TERM IS WHAT'S TRIGGERED BY THE RECEIPT OF THE TERMS OTHER THAN THE BEING ABLE TO BRING WASTE ON SATURDAY APPLIES.

FOR INSTANCE DURING THE WEEK.

YEAH. FOLKS WOULD BE ABLE [INAUDIBLE] YEAH THAT'D BE FINE.

[INAUDIBLE] START IMMEDIATELY AND WE'D WORK WITH YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH, MAYBE A COUPLE ADS IN THE LOCKHART PAPER, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON GETTING SOME JOINT COMMUNICATION OUT THERE AND OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH YOU AS WE GET READY FOR THE CLEANUP DAYS, AND THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO A LOT OF COORDINATION THERE TO GET THE WORD OUT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START USING IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

COMMISSIONER, TO ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE INITIAL TERM STARTING WHENEVER THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED BY TCEQ, WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO DO ANYTHING THEY'RE NOT LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO DO, SUCH AS THE SATURDAY PICKUP, THAT KIND OF STUFF [INAUDIBLE] REGARDING HIS GENERAL INTERPRETATION OF WHEN. SO I GUESS A MORE CLEAR WAY TO ASK THE QUESTION WOULD BE IF THIS AGREEMENT WERE ADOPTED STARTING TOMORROW, CAN CITIZENS BRING STUFF DURING THE WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? WE WOULD ACCEPT IT, YES, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE AGREEMENT.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON RECORD THAT.

THAT COULD BE REFLECTED IN IT, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE DON'T ADOPT THIS TODAY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TABLE IT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS AND RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IF THAT'S WHAT THE COURT WANTS TO DO [INAUDIBLE] YES, IT WOULDN'T TAKE LONG, THEORETICALLY, ASSUMING THERE WAS AGREEABLE LANGUAGE, BUT IT WOULD CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND WHEN CERTAIN THINGS GO INTO EFFECT. IT'S DOABLE.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, TO ACCEPT THE AGREEMENT WE WOULD IN ORDER TO DO AS WAS JUST SUGGESTED, WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE NO TO THAT AND THEN MAKE A NEW MOTION TO PROCEED.

JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE BOOKKEEPING INVOLVED HERE.

I'LL MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY, MS. PERALES REPRESENTS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND THE INTEREST OF CALDWELL COUNTY, NOT A COMPETITOR.

I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO INVITE MS. YELTON OUT ON SOME NICE, CLEAR, FOGGY MORNING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE COFFEE WITH ME ON MY BACK PORCH AND SMELL THE GARBAGE.

YOU'D LOVE IT. IT'S JUST REALLY WONDERFUL.

THREE DAYS LAST WEEK.

WE'RE ALMOST NAUSEATING.

I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT SOMEBODY DOWN IN MCMAHON THINKS THAT, GEE, WE CAN GET FREE DUMP WHERE I'M SITTING THERE SMELLING EVERY MORNING OR HEARING EVERY MORNING OF THE SOUND OF EQUIPMENT KICKING UP AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING TO MOVE DIRT AROUND, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING IF THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO START EARLIER THAN THAT, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE AND REMOVE THOSE COVERS BEFORE THEY CAN EVER ACCEPT GARBAGE AND UP TO POSSIBLY 10:00 AT NIGHT, I THINK PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, THEIR CONCERNS TRUMPED SOMEBODY'S ABILITY TO COME IN AND PUT GARBAGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE DAMN MONEY TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THE APPLICATION AS IS.

I THINK WE CAN TAKE UP THAT CONVERSATION WITH MR. GREEN. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE IT.

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I UNDERSTAND. DEPENDING ON HOW THE VOTE GOES, THEN WE CAN DO THE NEXT STEP IF IT'S NECESSARY.

I'M SORRY. WERE YOU ASKING ME SOMETHING? I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE INTERPRETATION.

WE'RE FINE DOING IT, AND TO SEE IF IT'S ACTION YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE TODAY SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE TABLE AND COME BACK AGAIN AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE ARE FINE VERBALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE WILL HONOR THESE TERMS IMMEDIATELY.

I'M ALSO FINE WITH ACKNOWLEDGING AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE TODAY AND HAVE YOU VOTE ON IT THAT SAYS IF THE TERM WOULD START TODAY AND I WOULD AGREE TO IT AND WE'LL SIGN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAY SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.

IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE TERM STARTS TODAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ON CERTAIN HOURS.

THAT WOULD REALLY MUDDY THE WATER AND I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ORAL AMENDMENTS TO THIS.

YEAH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO.

AND YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND BRACKET WHAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, UNDER WHAT TIMES AND WHAT CANNOT UNTIL THAT.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT AS IS.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT FIRST, AND THEN IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF IT GETS VOTED DOWN, THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN A NEW MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN CALDWELL COUNTY AND 130 ENVIRONMENTAL PARK LLC FOR WASTE DISPOSAL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? WE HAVE FOUR ONE VOTE MOTION PASSES.

ITEM 37 CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN AMENDMENT PERMIT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY

[37. Discussion/Action to consider adopting Resolution 41-2022, supporting an amended permit application to the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality by 130 Environmental Park, LLC, which no longer seeks 24/7 operation.]

BEFORE WE START, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AND AMEND MOTIONS AS NECESSARY.

I MOVE APPROVAL ADOPTING RESOLUTION, SUPPORTING AN AMENDED PERMIT APPLICATION AT TCEQ WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE 4 TO 1 MOTION PASSES.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO ITEM 34.

[34. Discussion to consider amending the Caldwell County siting ordinance.]

THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE.

MS. PERALES INDICATED THAT AT ONE POINT IN CAPCOG SUPPORTED OUR CURRENT SITING ORDINANCE.

I DON'T RECALL DOING THAT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I HAD FOR BREAKFAST.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

HOWEVER, OUR SITING ORDINANCE, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IS A 12 ACRE GRAVEL PIT IN PRECINCT ONE.

THAT CONCERNS ME FROM A STANDPOINT OF THAT BEING A VIABLE SITE, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE ORDINANCE, FRANKLY.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A SITING ORDINANCE.

IT'S NOT A VIABLE SITE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2013 WHEN THIS WHOLE THING FIRST CAME UP THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A PROPER SITING ORDINANCE IN A SITE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VIABLE.

THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN SOME POLITICAL COURAGE ON SOMEBODY'S PART TO RAISE THEIR HAND SAY, LET'S MAKE THE SITE SOMEWHERE IN MY PRECINCT.

SO THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

THEN THE PARTS ONE AND TWO OF THE PERMIT WERE FILED, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO STICK ONLY TO THE FACTS HERE.

PARTS ONE AND TWO OF THE PERMIT WERE FILED.

THEN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ADOPTED THE SITING ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY OWNED GRAVEL PIT IN PRECINCT ONE.

AFTER PARTS ONE AND TWO WERE FILED, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND TODAY, AND ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS IS, IS THAT SITING ORDINANCE GOING TO BE SUPPORTED IN COURT, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, MS.

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NO OTHER LANDFILL OR WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT I KNOW OF HAS APPLIED TO ATTEMPT TO SITE ANOTHER LANDFILL AND BEEN PROHIBITED BY THE SITING ORDINANCE.

SO I DON'T FORESEE A CHALLENGE TO THE VALIDITY OF THE ORDINANCE ANYTIME WAS WAS THE ORDINANCE LISTED, AND SO THERE IS 100 AND SOME ODD I THINK IN AT LEAST IN THE DISTRICT COURT. I NEVER SAW THE APPELLATE COURT AND I HAVEN'T READ THE DISTRICT COURT ONE IN QUITE SOME TIME, BUT WAS IT LISTED IN THERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLAINTIFF FELT WERE ISSUES WITH THE LANDFILL.

I MEAN, WAS IT ONE OF THE 100 AND SOME ODD ITEMS THAT WAS LISTED THAT WERE LISTED AND TALKED ABOUT IN DISTRICT COURT? YES, SIR. SO I REPRESENT THE PLAINTIFFS WHO FILED.

IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL, ESSENTIALLY OF THE TCEQ PERMITTING DECISION, AND WE LISTED, AS YOU SAID, A NUMBER OF ERRORS THAT WE ALLEGE THAT THE TCEQ COMMITTED IN DECIDING TO ISSUE THE PERMIT, AND AMONG THOSE ERRORS THAT WERE LISTED WAS THE FACT THAT THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A SITING ORDINANCE IN PLACE BEFORE THE FULL PERMIT APPLICATION HAD BEEN FILED WITH THE TCEQ.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ON THAT.

SO THAT HELPS ME. SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHAT SHE SAID IS CORRECT.

THE APPELLATE OPINION OF POLICE DID NOT ADDRESS THE VALIDITY OF THE ORDINANCE TO THE EXTENT THE ORDINANCE WAS REFERENCED.

IT WAS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT BEFORE OR AFTER THE PERMIT WAS PENDING WITH THE TCEQ.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE WITH A GRAVEL PIT THAT'S OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND PRECINCT ONE.

WHAT'S BEING OFFERED UP FOR DISCUSSION IS AT SOME POINT, WOULD THAT ORDINANCE BE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, MORE SUSTAINABLE IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL LANDFILL SITE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH WE HAVE? SO WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON THIS TODAY, COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO PLEASE WEIGH IN.

COMMISSIONER ROLAND I KNOW YOU DO SO.

THERIOT. WELL, I THINK THAT OUR ORDINANCE IS PROBABLY SUBJECT TO SOME CHALLENGE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF OF THE VIABILITY OF THE SITE THAT WAS SELECTED. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, A POROUS GRAVEL PIT WOULD BE THE LAST PLACE ANYONE WOULD SELECT TO PUT A LANDFILL.

AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT PROBABLY NORTHERN CALDWELL COUNTY, NORTHERN AND EASTERN CALDWELL COUNTY HAVE PROBABLY SOIL WISE SOME OF THE BEST LAND FOR LANDFILLS THAT YOU COULD SELECT.

IT'S DEEP. LIKE YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY IN THE [INAUDIBLE] WATER SYSTEM.

WELL, YOU CAN ASK THE [INAUDIBLE] FOLKS.

NOW THERE'S YOU CAN'T HIT GROUNDWATER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH IT DOWN TO 1200 FEET AT LEAST, AND SO I'M CONCERNED THAT'S AN ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR OTHER LANDFILLS, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WE COULD POSSIBLY IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN TO OUR ORDINANCE, THAT THERE WOULD BE A OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO GET APPLICATIONS IN ON NEW SITES AROUND THAT AREA BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING THE CENTRAL TEXAS IS GROWING, THE REGION IS GROWING.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR SITES.

IF WE WERE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE THERE TO DESIGNATE THE SITE OF THE EXISTING LANDFILL AS THE ONLY SITE THAT COULD BE IN CALDWELL COUNTY, AND THAT'S A VIABLE SITE, OBVIOUSLY, AND

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THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I'LL JUST SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER THERIOT MENTIONED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ATTEND TRAININGS AND CONFERENCES, THIS TOPIC COMES UP QUITE A BIT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE FEW STATUTORY THINGS THAT COUNTIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE.

THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE FEW.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SITING ORDINANCE AND IF IT EVER WAS WAS CHALLENGED AND THE SITE THAT'S LISTED IS PROVEN TO BE NOT A VIABLE SITE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ORDINANCE HAS TO HAVE, THEN YOU ARE EFFECTIVELY NOT PROTECTED FROM ANOTHER SITE CHOOSING TO LOCATE AN ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL WASTE FACILITY IN YOUR COUNTY, AND SO THAT I DON'T THINK IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

SO, FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE PRUDENT IN ORDER TO LIMIT IT, SO TO SPEAK, TO THE ONE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. OKAY, THIS IS AN OPEN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE.

SO, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SINCE IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY.

NOBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AND GO AHEAD AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[40. EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551.087, the discussion of deliberation regarding economic development negotiations associated with Project Ardizia. Possible Action may follow in open court.]

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT, AND WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1207.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BACK TO ORDER AND LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1240, THE 27TH

[41. Discussion/Action to consider taking action on Executive Session.]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? I NEVER HEAR OPPOSITION TO THAT.

WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 12:44.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.