[Call Meeting to Order] [00:00:02] >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THIS MORNING ON TUESDAY, THE 10TH DAY OF JANUARY 2023, AT 9:00 AM. COMMISSIONER THOMAS HAS AGREED TO DO INVOCATION FOR US THIS MORNING. >> DEAR, GOD, YOUR GRACIOUS HOLY AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME THIS MOMENT, THIS MINUTE, THIS HOUR ASKING YOU DEAR FATHER MAY THE WORDS OF THE MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF THE HEART BE ACCEPTABLE IN THY SIGHT, OUR STRENGTH AND OUR REDEEMER. HEAR THESE HUMBLE PRAYERS. WE ASK THAT YOU DIRECT THESE PROCEEDINGS ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL, THAT EVERYTHING BE DONE DECENTLY AND IN ORDER. HEAR MY HUMBLE PRAYER. AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE, WE ASK FOR TRAVELING GRACE. ALL OF THESE THINGS WE ASKED IN YOUR DARLING, PRECIOUS SON, JESUS CHRIST'S NAME AND IN THE BLOOD HE SHED. IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, IN THE NAME OF THE SON, AND IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND EVERYONE SAY IT, AMEN. >> AMEN. [Announcements] >> COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING? >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER HORN AND COMMISSIONER THOMAS TO THE DIAS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF CALDWELL COUNTY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. YOU GOT ANYTHING? COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE]. >> I HAD COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND'S COMMENTS AND DECIDED THAT IT NEEDS SUPPORT. >> GREAT. COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON SUNDAY, AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AT 3PM, PAST THE FRENCH WILLIAMS IS HAVING A COMMUNITY MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY CELEBRATION AND NEEDS TO INVITE EVERYONE TO COME OUT. COMMISSIONER THOMAS WILL BE DOING THE GREETING, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYBODY BEING THERE. THANK YOU. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. HAPPY NEW YEAR. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO INTRODUCE KRISTINA AYRES. SHE'S THE NEW GRANTS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, JUST STARTED JANUARY THE 3RD. SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL ASSET ALREADY AND SHE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE DUE DILIGENCE WORK ON OUR GRANTS FOR THE COUNTY AND I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER TO THE COURT. >> WELCOME ABOARD. >> LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU-ALL. THANK YOU-ALL FOR HAVING ME. >> YOU BET. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, ANYMORE STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? [Citizens' Comments] WE'LL GO TO CITIZENS' COMMENTS. >> GILSON WESTBROOK. >> JUST A REMINDER, MR. WESTBROOK GOT FOUR MINUTES. YOU STATE YOUR NAME, THANK YOU. >> AS ANNOUNCED, MY NAME IS GILSON WESTBROOK. I LIVE HERE IN CALDWELL COUNTY, 895, ST. JOHN ROAD. I APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND MY ADDRESS. I HAVE A SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM I SAY, IN WHICH I WILL BE WORKING ON, AND THEY WERE GOING TO SEND ME BACK HERE AS I WORK WITH TECQ. OVER THE LAST APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL EVEN UNTIL THIS PAST WEEK COMING OUT AND PAVING THE HOLES IN ST. JOHN ROAD THAT DID WELL THE ISSUES, AND THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM OUT THERE. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND THEN WHEN THEY CALL AND SAY, WHO IS THIS GILSON WESTBROOK? YOU SAY THE HEAD OF JURY BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> J. J. WELLS? >> MORNING JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. HAPPY NEW YEAR. MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, MY NAME IS J. J. WELLS, FORMERLY WITH THE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NOW I'M WITH [INAUDIBLE]. WE REPRESENT VARIOUS COUNTY ENTITIES, COLLECTING THEIR DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS FOR A LOT OF ENTITIES AROUND THE COUNTY. I WANTED TO APPEAR TODAY, MAKE A SPECIAL WELCOME TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, [00:05:02] COMMISSIONER HORN, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, AND REALLY TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE STILL HAVE THIS TEXAS HOMEOWNER'S ASSISTANCE FUND PROGRAM IN PLACE. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY FEDERAL LEGISLATION BEING ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE, TDHCA. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. THESE ARE FUNDS, THESE ARE GRANTS THAT DO NOT HAVE TO BE PAID BACK, THESE ARE NOT LOANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE FALLEN BEHIND FOR PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN, FOR RENTAL PAYMENTS, MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, DELINQUENT TAXES, AND CAN EVEN BE USED TO FUND RENOVATIONS ON PROPERTY. IT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID THAT HAVE FALLEN BEHIND TO NOT BE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR PROPERTY AS LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. THEY CAN APPLY ONLINE. THE PAYMENTS THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO, ASSUMING THEY QUALIFY, ARE MADE DIRECTLY TO THE ENTITY THAT THEY OWE. FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY'RE BEHIND ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, IT WOULD BE MADE DIRECTLY TO THE CAT OFFICE ON THEIR BEHALF. JUST IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT REMAINS IN EFFECT. I THINK PEOPLE IN CALDWELL COUNTY RECEIVED OVER $30,000 TO HELP THEM SO FAR SINCE IT'S BEEN STARTED. THE AMOUNTS, I BELIEVE WERE UP TO $25,000 PER ACCOUNT, AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL COVER DELINQUENCIES GOING BACK TO 2016. JUST SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE FOR PEOPLE HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN THAT POSITION AS I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE AFTER THE COVID PANDEMIC THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH. IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. AGAIN, A WARM WELCOME TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER SOON. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> LINDA HENKEL. >> I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON 12, 13 [INAUDIBLE] >> ITEM 12 AND 13. THAT'S FINE. >> MS. HENKEL, REMIND ME [LAUGHTER] WHEN WE GET THERE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? >> MATHEW ALLEN. >> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. >> NO MORE CITIZENS COMMENTS. >> OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO CONSENT. [CONSENT AGENDA] DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONSENT? SOMEBODY? >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? NOT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE. CONSENT AGENDA PASSES. ITEM 5, [5. Discussion/Action regarding the burn ban. ] DISCUSSION ACTION REGARDING THE BURN BAN, HECTOR. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF, AND GALLERY. I WANT TO WELCOME THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS TO DO CALDWELL COUNTY OR TO THE TEAM. I GAVE YOU ALL MY CARD. MAKE SURE YOU CALL ME SO I CAN HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBERS READILY AVAILABLE IF I NEED TO HAVE A [NOISE] CONVERSATION WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF FIRE UPDATE. SINCE JANUARY THE 1ST, WE'VE HAD A FEW FIRES. SOME OF THE FIRES HAVE BEEN STARTED BY EITHER MOWING ON DRY GRASS WHEN THEY STRIKE A ROCK AND HAVE A SPARK AND BURN SOME ACREAGE OR PEOPLE THAT ARE BURNING BRUSH AND LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED AND THE WINDS PICK UP AND THEN YOU START BURNING A LOT OF ACREAGE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BURN, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU CLEAR AN AREA OF ABOUT 25 FEET AROUND YOUR FIRES AND THEN MONITOR THE FIRES WHILE THEY'RE BURNING. ALSO TRY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF WATER SOURCE THERE JUST IN CASE IT GETS OUT OF HAND. THERE IS NO RAIN PREDICTED UNTIL ABOUT JANUARY THE 21ST AND THAT'S A VERY SLIGHT CHANCE. RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT NUMBERS THE KBDI, THE MINIMUM IS 95, THE MAXIMUM IS 419, THE AVERAGE IS 270, WITH A CHANGE OF PLUS TWO. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WE KEEP THE BURN BAN OFF ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STRONG WINDS AND THE GRASSES ARE EXTREMELY DRY, SO BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE BURN BAN OFF AND WE'LL MONITOR IT AS WE GO. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE MOTION TO KEEP THE BURN BAN OFF? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSE? HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS, HECTOR. ITEMS 6. [6. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of a Proclamation recognizing Judge Raymond DeLeon's years of service to Caldwell County. ] DISCUSSION [NOISE] ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUDGE RAYMOND DELEON YEARS OF SERVICE TO CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. [NOISE] JUDGE DELEON HAS SERVED THIS COUNTY FOR, I BELIEVE IT'S 20 YEARS; IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT LENGTHY SERVICE WITH A PROCLAMATION. [00:10:07] PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUDGE [NOISE] RAYMOND DELEON FOR 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF CALDWELL COUNTY. WHEREAS COMMUNITIES EXIST, THRIVE IN OUR ENHANCED THROUGH THE TALENT, SKILLS, AND COMMITMENT OF THOSE CITIZENS WHO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO A POSITIVE PURPOSE GROUNDED IN PUBLIC SERVICE. WHEREAS THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, MINDFUL OF THE IMPORTANCE OF POSITIVE CITIZENSHIP, BELIEVES IN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF RECOGNIZING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO POSITIVELY AFFECT THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY LIVE AND WORK. WHEREAS ON OR ABOUT JANUARY 1, 2003, THE CITIZENS OF PRECINCT 4 OF CALDWELL COUNTY ENTRUSTED THEIR INTERESTS AND THE PUBLIC GOOD TO RAYMOND DELEON AND ELECTED HIM JUSTICE OF THE PEACE. WHEREAS, RECOGNIZING HIS LEADERSHIP AND EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE, THE CITIZENS OF PRECINCT 4 HAVE CONTINUED TO ELECT JUDGE DELEON TO ENSURE THAT ORDERLY AND EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE WITHIN THE JUSTICE COURT A PRECINCT 4. WHEREAS JUDGE DELEON HAS EXPRESSED IN HIS INTENT TO RETIRE AND CONTINUE HIS SERVICE TO CALDWELL COUNTY AS AN EDUCATOR AT THE LOCKHART INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEREAS, COMMISSIONERS COURT DESIRES TO HONOR JUDGE DELEON FOR HIS DEDICATION TO CALDWELL COUNTY. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT IN APPRECIATION OF THE POSITIVE INFLUENCE JUDGE RAYMOND DELEON HAS HAD AND CONTINUES TO HAVE IN CALDWELL COUNTY, THIS COURT WISHES TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE HIM UPON RETIREMENT FOR 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF CALDWELL COUNTY, THIS STATE AND THIS NATION. JUDGE DELEON IS TO BE COMMENDED FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE. THE COURT WISHES AND WELL IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS, PROCLAIM THIS 10TH DAY OF JANUARY 2023. >> [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PROCLAMATION AND FOR INCLUDING THE LOCKHART ISD ON MY NEXT CHAPTER IN LIFE. WHEN I WALKED UP THE OTHER DAY, IT WAS BITTERSWEET WHEN WE DID THE SWEARING IN CEREMONY BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS SWORN IN AT 24 AND THE STEPS HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND I WAS WALKING INTO PASS OVER THE GAVEL TO MY SUCCESSOR. BUT TODAY I'LL WALK OUT HONORED WITH THIS PROCLAMATION AND PROUD THAT I CAN CONTINUE MY SERVICE TO MY COMMUNITY AS AN EDUCATOR, TEACHING LAW AND PUBLIC SERVICE AT LOCKHART INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT, HONOR. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> [APPLAUSE] OKAY. >> JUDGE, WE DO NEED THAT MOTION. >> OH, YES. SORRY, I FORGOT WE HAD [LAUGHTER] TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION? >> SALUTE. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HORN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, JASON. [7. Discussion/Action to consider taking action on appointment of a Caldwell County Animal Control Advisory Committee. ] ITEM 7, DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON THE APPOINTMENT OF CALDWELL COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY COMMITTEE , COMMISSIONER THERIOT. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. [NOISE] SINCE WE HAVE NEW FACES ON THE BOARD, I'LL GO BACK AND BE A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE ON WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BACK IN DECEMBER REGARDING THIS. CURRENTLY, CALDWELL COUNTY HAS TWO ANIMAL SHELTERS [NOISE] ONE IS IN THE CITY OF LULING AND ONE IS WITHIN THE CITY OF LOCKHART. THE SHELTER WITHIN THE CITY OF LOCKHART IS ALSO THE CALDWELL COUNTY SHELTER, MEANING THAT ANY ANIMALS CAPTURED OR PICKED UP OUT IN THE COUNTY GET BROUGHT TO THAT SHELTER. AS A RESULT, CALDWELL COUNTY IS CHARGED A FEE BY THE CITY OF LOCKHART. I THINK THE FORMULAS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT'S BASED ROUGHLY ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT COME IN FROM THE COUNTY AREA VERSUS WHAT COMES IN FROM THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW, VERY SELDOM TO PEOPLE DUMP ANIMALS. IF YOU'RE LIVING IN THE CITY OF NEW DUMP AN ANIMAL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DUMP IT IN THE CITY, USUALLY GO OUT THE COUNTY, AND DUMP IT ON THE ROAD. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER DESIGNATED AS COMING FROM THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE EXPERIENCING HEAVY ANIMAL OVERLOAD AT THE COUNTY SHELTER. [00:15:03] THERE'S, I THINK 56 KENNELS AND [NOISE] PROBABLY AVERAGING 70-90 ANIMALS, USUALLY AT ANY ONE TIME. FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, THERE HAD BEEN NO OR VERY FEW EUTHANASIAS THAT ARE RELATED TO OVERCROWDING IN THE SHELTER. AS OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ROUNDS OF EUTHANASIA TO PUT DOGS DOWN STRICTLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF OVERCROWDING. THAT EXPENSE IS BEING BORN BY THE COUNTY TO RISING EXPENSE. ALSO THE COUNTY HAS EXPENSES RELATED TO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, WHICH ARE THROUGH OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE HAVE TWO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IN LIGHT OF ALL THIS AND IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF WHAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE HAD DISCUSSED CREATING AN ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO GO OUT. I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF DRAFTING A CHARGE. THIS IS BY NO MEANS FINAL. ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE ON IT OR ADD OR DELETE FROM IT IS FINE WITH ME. BUT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD GO OUT AND DEVELOP A REPORT ON EXISTING ANIMAL CONTROL EFFORTS IN CALDWELL COUNTY. THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS AND AGENCIES THAT DO HAVE VARIOUS PROGRAMS. THERE'S SPAN NEUTER PROGRAMS UNDERTAKEN BY VARIOUS AGENCIES. THERE'S ORGANIZATIONS THAT PULL DOGS AND ANIMALS FROM THE SHELTERS, BOTH LOCK-HART AND LABELING AND OTHER SHELTERS IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND TRANSPORT THEM UP NORTH WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MANY ANIMALS AND THE SHELTERS WHERE THOSE ANIMALS GET ADOPTED. THERE'S OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE DOING SHIPPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. GIVE US A REPORT ON THE EXISTING ANIMAL CONTROL EFFORTS AND CALL THEM COUNTY BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR SO THAT WE HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S OUT THERE ALREADY. ALSO EDUCATION OUT IN THE COUNTY AS TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE, THOSE THING. LIGHT FOR THAT REPORT TO INCLUDE THAT. THEN COORDINATE WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF TO REPORT ON WHAT THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY IS FOR TEXAS COUNTIES TO ADOPT NEW ANIMAL CONTROL POLICIES OR REGULATIONS. COUNTIES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM CITIES. WHEREAS CITIES HAVE AUTHORITIES THAT ARE MUCH GREATER THAN COUNTY AUTHORITIES, THEY CAN DO WITH THIS LEGISLATURE SAYS THEY CAN DO PLUS ANYTHING THAT'S LEGISLATURE SILENT ON, USUALLY A VERY ROUGHLY. BUT COUNTIES ARE STRICTLY LIMITED TO DOING ONLY WHAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE HAS DECIDED THEY CAN DO. IT'S VERY LIMITED ON WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME COUNTIES OUT THERE, GOTTEN CREATIVE ON INTERPRETATIONS OF THAT AUTHORITY AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT VARIOUS REGULATIONS. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE ALSO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT TO GIVE US A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHAT OUR STATUTORY AUTHORITY MIGHT BE. FINALLY, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US REGARDING IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING PRIVATE AND PUBLIC ANIMAL CONTROL PROGRAMS AND WHAT, IF ANY, NEW LAW SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. JUST COME BACK TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT WE COULD DO IF THE COURT SO DECIDE. MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING THE COURT WANTS TO DO OR MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. BUT I'D LIKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE DETERMINED. I'VE RECEIVED A LIST OF FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING. I KNOW COMMISSIONER THOMAS AND COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND TALK [00:20:01] ABOUT IT AND DISCUSS IT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAVE FOUR FOLKS THAT HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON IT ALL OF THEM ARE INVOLVED IN ANIMAL CONTROL, BOTH IN LU LENG LOCK-HART AND OUT IN ACCOUNTING AND THESE FOLKS ARE ARE WILLING TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE. I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP AT THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE FORMATION OF THE COMMITTEE. >>NORMALLY WE WILL DO A MOTION IT BUT I THINK THIS BEARS A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION FIRST BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER, BUT I HOPE THE COURT WILL BE OKAY WITH THAT. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T HAD VERY MUCH TIME AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND PUTTING SOMEBODY ON THIS BOARD OR THIS COMMISSION RATHER COMMITTEE. OUR OPTIONS ARE WE CAN TABLE IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, GIVE YOU TIME TO THINK OF SOMEBODY, OR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] LIST OR WE CAN ADD SOMEONE. I KNOW CHRISTINA, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THIS AS SOMEONE FROM A PRIVATE ANIMAL GROUP AND SO WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT ADDING HER NAME TO IT. >> I HAVE ADDED HER. >> YOU DID. OKAY, GOOD. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. WELL, WOULD YOU MIND READING THAT LIST FOR US? >>THE FOLKS WHO I'VE TALKED WITH AND HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE AS CAROL JONES. I THINK SHE'S FROM THE MAC MAN AREA, I BELIEVE. JOHN BROWN, WHO'S FROM THE YUMLAND AREA. ALBERTO SANTOS, WHO IS FROM THE BALE AREA AND CHRISTINA HARRIS, AND CHRISTINA, ARE YOU FROM THE YUMLAND AREA? >> YEAH. >>OKAY. SO WITH THAT LIST, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT LIST? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. >>LET'S ALL OF THOSE CANDIDATES. EACH PRECINCT, [INAUDIBLE] >> COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MIC A LITTLE CLOSER THERE. >> SO WE KNOW DO ALL THOSE CANDIDATES COVER EACH PRECINCT PRETTY WELL. >> I SEE PRECINCT 2 I SEE PRECINCT 4 AND I SEE PRECINCT 3. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT PRECINCT [INAUDIBLE] >>WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD IS JAN LIVE ON? [LAUGHTER] SHE MIGHT BE IN ONE? >>CHRISTINE IS ON THERE? >> IT`S LIVING AREA AND SHE'S ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH A PRIVATE ANIMAL RESCUE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT BEFORE WE MAKE MOTION? OKAY. COULD WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER. >> A MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER MATERIEL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> YES. IF I COULD SUGGEST ONE MORE ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >>THAT'S ALSO A FULL MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, THAT WOULD GIVE US FIVE FOLKS ON THERE. >>PROBABLY NOMINATE. I MIGHT SUGGEST CHIEF CRAIG MILE AND IF HE HAD SOMEBODY FROM ANIMAL CONTROL IF HE'D LIKE TO HAVE BRING WITH HIM. >> OKAY. COME ON UP HERE. [LAUGHTER] >> [INAUDIBLE] DIVISION HAS TWO OFFICERS ALSO, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A CARPEL CALL TOWNSEND, AND HE'S THE ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE THE LONGEST. AND THOSE LEGAL POINT OF IT VERSUS JOHN CRAIG, MORAL DUTIES ARE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE. SO I WOULD THINK TO GET A BETTER PRODUCT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO NOMINATE CARL TOWNS INTO THAT SINCE HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH OUR PROGRAM FOR OVER 10 YEARS. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT. >> SO WHO? >> CARPELS CALL TOWNSEND. SORRY. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU. >> I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MOTION YET. [OVERLAPPING] >> I MIGHT HAVE A MOTION. >> OH, YOU DID, COMMISSIONER? SORRY. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'LL MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER THOMAS FOR APPROVAL OF THE LIST AND COMMISSIONER THERIOT WILL SECOND. [00:25:04] ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 8, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF [8. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of pay rate changes in Caldwell County District Clerk Office. ] PAY RATE CHANGES IN CALDWELL COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. JUANITA? >> GOOD MORNING. I'VE ADDED THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THE BACKUP WHICH I ALSO PRINTED OUT JUST A ONE-PAGE FORM. WOULD YOU PREFER TO HAVE THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS? >> YES. WE'RE WANTING TO LOWER TWO POSITIONS AND THEN MOVE THE SALARIES FOR THOSE AND THEN MOVE THE PAY FROM THOSE TWO TO ANOTHER ONE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I HAVE ONE POSITION. IT WAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND IT WAS A COMBO POSITION SO IT WAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE JUVENILE COURT. JUVENILE COURT GOES INTO THE COURTROOM, HANDLES EVERYTHING UNDER THE COUNTY JUDGE, SO I'M ASKING TO MOVE THAT POSITION BECAUSE I DID CHANGE THAT TO JUST AN ATTORNEY GENERAL POSITION AND I MOVED THE JUVENILE CLERK POSITION TO MY JURY CLERK, SHE WAS ALREADY BACKUP TO THE JUVENILE CLERK, SO SHE KNEW IT SO I'M ASKING TO MOVE THAT. I'VE MOVED THAT TO HER DUTIES, SORRY. [LAUGHTER] THEN THE CRIMINAL CLERK IS GOING TO BE BACKUP TO THE JUVENILE CLERK AND GOING INTO THE COURTROOM. THE AG CLERK POSITION WAS 39,843. I'M ASKING TO REDUCE THAT TO 36,627, THAT GIVES ME 3,216. I'M ASKING THE CIVIL CLERK POSITION WITH THE DUTY CHANGES TO BE INCREASED BY 1,000. I'M ASKING FOR THE JURY CLERK, WHICH HAS THE ADDED JUVENILE TO BE INCREASED FROM 36,975 TO 38,191, AND THE CRIMINAL CLERK, I'M ASKING TO CHANGE FROM 38,191 TO 39,191, WHICH IS A 1,000 INCREASE, SO TOGETHER, THAT IS JUST REALLOCATING THE $3,216. >> PROBABLY WE GO TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS COMMISSIONERS. I'LL GO FIRST, I'VE BEEN PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT THESE. I'D PREFER FOR THESE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH BUDGET CYCLE. >> YES, SIR. >> THE REASON BEING IS TYPICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'LL LOWER A POSITION AND THEN SPREAD THAT TO POSITION THAT'S TAKEN ON THE EXTRA WORK AND THEN WHEN BUDGET TIME COMES AROUND, WE INCREASE THE LOWERED POSITION AND THEN WE INCREASE THE OTHER POSITIONS AND IT WINDS UP BEING A PRETTY HEFTY RAISE. I JUST GO THROUGH A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF TROUBLE TO PUT [LAUGHTER] THESE BUDGETS TOGETHER. IT TAKES MONTHS AND MONTHS TO DO IT AND IT'S JUST SEEMS UNFAIR TO ALLOW SOME TO MAKE THESE MOTIONS MIDSTREAM AND THEN OTHERS DON'T, AND THEIR STAFF TAKES ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND WAITS FOR THE BUDGET CYCLE. FOR ME, THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH BUDGET CYCLE AND IT'S JUST THREE MONTHS AWAY, AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS THEN. >> IF I MAY, SIR, THAT WOULD NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER SO THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE NINE MONTHS. WITH THE POSITIONS THAT THEY ARE REALLY INCREASING, SWITCHING THE CRIMINAL CLERK WITH ADDING BACKUP TO THE JUVENILE AND THE JURY CLERK TAKING ON THE JUVENILE POSITION IS A MASSIVE INCREASE. THEY GO IN THE COURTROOM, THEY ISSUE WARRANTS, SHE HANDLES BOTH THEM NOW, SO, WITH RESPECT, I DO ASK THAT YOU DO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OF THE TIME FRAME OF THE NEW BUDGET. >> THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIFTH OR SIXTH ONE THAT I'VE HAD COME BEFORE HERE SINCE I'VE SAT UP HERE ON THE DAIS, AND THE PART THAT I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH IS THE MECHANISM FOR THIS BECAUSE JUST TO ECHO WHAT JUDGE JAYDEN SAID IS THAT THAT IS ONE PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT COMES AROUND WITH THE NEW BUDGET CYCLE WHERE WE ARE ASKED TO INCREASE THOSE BACK UP TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL FROM WHAT THEY WERE REDUCED TO. BUT THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THIS TYPE OF MECHANISM IS THE CONSISTENCY, AND WE GET THESE REQUESTS FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTY, AND THEY ARE ALL CONDITIONAL, AND THEY ALL HAVE SEPARATE DESCRIPTIONS AND WHY THEY'RE BEING ASKED FOR, [00:30:02] AND IT'S VERY HARD, IN MY OPINION, FOR THE COURT TO BE CONSISTENT ON THE WAY THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED, AND SO FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, FROM MY OPINION, IT'S EASIEST FOR US TO DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ALLOWED TO BE THE MOST CONSISTENT AND NOT CHERRY PICK AND PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE GRANTED THESE PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS AND WHICH DEPARTMENTS AREN'T. FOR ME, THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT IS TO ASK THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH THESE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO A MID-BUDGET OR A MID-STREAM ADJUSTMENT. THAT'S THE BASIS FOR MY OPINION SO THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN THE APPLICATION OF PAY INCREASES ACROSS THE COUNTY. THAT'S MY JUSTIFICATION. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION? >> AND IF I MAY? [OVERLAPPING] >> YES, MA'AM. >> I APOLOGIZE. I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE, WE HAVE SO MANY BRANCHES OF DIFFERENT DUTIES THAT WE HAVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE HIRE SOMEBODY AND THEY LEAVE THAT POSITION COMES OPEN, THAT OPENS UP. IF I HAVE SOMEBODY BACKUP AND ALREADY KNOWS THAT POSITION TO TAKE THAT ON, THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO PAUSE COURT. THEY'RE GOING TO COURT, AND IF I HAVE TO STOP AND TRAIN SOMEBODY FOR TWO OR THREE WEEKS, WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING INTO THE COURTROOM THAT DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND IF I HAVE BACKUP THAT KNOWS IT ALREADY, CAN GO IN THERE AND TAKE ON THAT POSITION, IT'S THE BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE INSTANCE. I KNOW WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, WE HAVE CIVIL, WE HAVE CRIMINAL, WE HAVE JURY, WE HAVE JUVENILE, WE HAVE SEVERAL BRANCHES, AND SO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY IT'S GOING TO BE THIS AND THAT'S IT BECAUSE OF THE DUTIES AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF EACH POSITION. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. HOWEVER, AS YOU SAID, IF IT TAKES A MONTH TO TRAIN SOMEONE, THERE IS A BACKUP ALREADY, THEY COULD DO THAT FOR A MONTH AND THEN GO BACK TO THEIR NORMAL DUTIES, COULD THEY NOT? >> IT TAKES AWAY FROM THEM DOING THEIR DUTIES, YES, SIR. >> BUT IT WOULD ANYWAY IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF THEY ARE BEING COMPENSATED FOR IT, THEY'RE TAKING ON AND BEING COMPENSATED FOR. I HAVE A GREAT GROUP. THEIR COMMITMENT IS AMAZING. THEY WORK HARD. THEY'RE AMAZING. >> I AGREE. I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT ABOUT ALMOST EVERYBODY [OVERLAPPING] THAT WORKS HERE. >> YES, SIR. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM, GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A MOTION. >> WELL I'LL MOVE THAT WE DENY THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AT THIS TIME IN LIEU OF THEM BEING BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE COURT DURING THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ITEM 9, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OF [9. Discussion/Action to consider the appointment of Judge Pro Tern of the Caldwell County Commissioners Court for Calendar year 2023, per section 2.04 of the Caldwell County Commissioner Court Rules of Procedure, Conduct, and Decorum. ] JUDGE PRO TEM OF CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 FOR SECTION 2.04 OF THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT RULES OF PROCEDURE, CONDUCT, AND DECORUM. COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND HAS BEEN OUR JUDGE PRO TEM THIS LAST TERM. COMMISSIONERS, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO EITHER REAPPOINT HIM OR TO CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE. >> I THINK HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB. [LAUGHTER] LOOKING FOR THIS REPORT, FOR HIM CONTINUING THAT IF HE WOULD LIKE. >> IS THAT A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND? >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND, THE JUDGE PRO TEM. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROLAND. ANY COMMENTS COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE VOTE? >> JUST HAPPY TO SERVE. [LAUGHTER] >> WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND CONTINUING AS JUDGE PRO TEM SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 10, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER [10. Discussion/Action to consider the designating a new Commissioner Court site at which terms are to be held during the 2023 calendar year, pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 81.005(d). ] DESIGNATING A NEW COMMISSIONERS COURT SITE AT WHICH TERMS ARE TO BE HELD DURING THE 2023 CALENDAR YEAR, PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 81.005(D). [00:35:01] COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING IT ON TUESDAYS, RIGHT HERE IN THE COURTROOM, SEEMS TO WORK OKAY, AND UNLESS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO IT ON A DIFFERENT DAY, I WOULD SUGGEST THE MOTION TO CONTINUE ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS HEARING COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> AT THE SAME TIME? >> AT THE SAME TIME, NINE O'CLOCK. >> SAME PLACE. >> I SAY HERE IN COMMISSIONERS COURT. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION? >> WHAT MOTION? >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AT NINE O'CLOCK 2ND AND 4TH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED, HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. [11. Discussion/Action to consider increasing the number of Precinct 4 part-time reserve deputy constables from 10 to 14 to assist Lockhart ISD student resource officers. ] ITEM 11, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PRECINCT FOR PART-TIME RESERVE DEPUTY HOSPITALS FROM 10-14 TO ASSIST LOCKHART, ISD, STEPHEN RESOURCE OFFICERS, COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. SINCE THERE ARE TWO NEW MEMBERS OF THE COURT, I'LL BRIEFLY GIVE A SYNOPSIS OF WHY THIS REQUEST IS BEING PLACED BEFORE YOU AT THIS TIME. THIS PAST NOVEMBER, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH LOCKHART INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR SECURITY PERSONNEL WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT ON CAMPUSES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY COVERED BY A LOCKHART POLICE DEPARTMENT STUDENT RESOURCE OFFICER. THOSE OFFICERS ONLY COVER THE JUNIOR HIGH AND LOCKHART HIGH SCHOOLS. THESE CONSTABLE DEPUTIES ARE TO BE USED AS SECURITY PERSONNEL ON THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUSES. ALL FIVE OF THEM, AS WELL AS CARVER EARLY EDUCATION CENTER, WHICH IS PRE-K, AND THEN THE PRIDE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS COHABITATED WITH LOCKHART ISD'S ADMINISTRATION OFFICES. AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, LOCKHART ISD REIMBURSES THE COUNTY FOR THE COST OF THE SECURITY SERVICES THROUGH PRECINCT FOURS CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS AGREEMENT AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS A CONCERN WITH IT. THE OFFICERS ARE NOT FULL-TIME, THEY HAVE TO REMAIN BELOW THE FULL-TIME THRESHOLD OF 30 HOURS OTHERWISE, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERED WHERE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO TREAT THEM AS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AT THAT POINT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THE POOL THAT THEY HAVE TO PULL FROM IN ORDER TO ROTATE THE OFFICERS IN TO KEEP THE HOURS DOWN, WE INCREASED IT ONCE, BUT AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH CONSTABLE VILLARREAL, THEY FEEL THAT IN ORDER TO FULLY MEET ALL SEVEN POSITIONS DURING THE DAY THAT THEY WOULD NEED THAT NUMBER TO BE INCREASED TO 14 IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN BELOW THE FULL-TIME THRESHOLD FOR ALL THESE RESERVE OFFICERS. THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST ENTAILS. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER? >> GOOD. >> WE'LL MAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND COMMISSIONER AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION. >> OKAY. >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRECINCT FOR PART-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE NUMBER FROM 10-14, TO ASSIST LOCKHART ISD WITH SECURITY SERVICES THROUGH OUR INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HORN. ANY DISCUSSION, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> WHAT TIMEFRAME WITH THIS TAKE PLACE, THE OFFICERS, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WILL IT BE? >> AS FAR AS HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN RUN. AS SOON AS IF THIS ITEM IS VOTED AND APPROVED ON, THAT IS CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF HIRING DEPUTIES AT THAT TIME. THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE INCREASE IN ALLOTMENT THAT WE GAVE THEM BACK IN NOVEMBER. THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON FILLING THOSE AS IT IS. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT PHASED AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM WHERE THEY'LL COVER SOME AS THEY CAN BRING OFFICERS ONLINE. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOW, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL FOR PART-TIME RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLES. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> OPPOSED, HEARING NONE, MOTION CARRIES. [12. Discussion/Action to consider a plat extension requestion for the Loopsy subdivision, a 4-lot subdivision of 44.73 acres located on Pebblestone Rd. ] ITEM 12, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER. LINDA, YOU WANTED 12 AND 13? >> YES. >> ITEM 12, DISCUSSION ACTION CONSIDER PLAT EXTENSION. THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A REQUEST, SAYS REQUESTION, [00:40:03] REQUEST FOR [INAUDIBLE] SUBDIVISION FOR LOT SUBDIVISION, 44.73 ACRES LOCATED ON PEBBLESTONE ROAD, CASEY? >> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START THEN I'LL LET LINDA MATTHEW SPEAK. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE LOOK IN YOUR BACKUP UNDER THE REQUEST LETTER FROM HMT JOSEPH SANDOVAL AND ON HERE WHAT IT IS LUCY ELAINE WAS APPROVED BY THE CALDWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT BACK IN FEBRUARY 9TH OF 2021. IT WAS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AND SO AT THIS TIME THEY ARE NOT READY TO SUBMIT FINAL PLAT, THERE'S SOME ISSUES AND THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION FROM THE COURT BECAUSE AFTER TWO YEARS IF YOU HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THE FINAL PLAT, IT DOES EXPIRE SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION FOR THE COURT FOR A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION SO THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND GATHER IT AND TO SUBMIT FOR FINAL PLAT. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET LINDA AND MATTHEW SPEAK. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND IF WE DON'T EXTEND AND THEN? >> THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO START ALL OVER. YES, SIR. JUST PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT TRACY BRETT AND A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP IN THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, TRACY IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT. THERE ARE ISSUES THAT I CAN'T SPEAK UP THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO. >> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION HERE? >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY. >> CASEY, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS EXACTLY ARE? >> WELL, I THINK THAT ISSUE WAS AN EASEMENT WITH PEBBLE STONE. ACCORDING TO JUST TRACY, JUST FROM WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, TRACY WAS NOT AWARE THAT EITHER 12 OR 13, WE'RE GOING TO BE AN ITEM ISSUE TODAY AND MATTHEW SEND AN EMAIL TO ME ON FRIDAY, SO I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING. TRACY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO CHANGE A SCHEDULED TO COME TO COURT TODAY. I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS IS ABOUT AN EASEMENT THERE. TRACY SEEMS TO THINK THAT A PEBBLE STONE ROAD IS RECOGNIZED FROM THE HOUSE BILL 1,117 AS A RECOGNIZED BUT NON MAINTAINED ROAD. I THINK MATTHEW AND LINDA DIFFER, BUT I'LL LET THEM SPEAK ON THAT. BUT I THINK THAT'S MORE SO WHAT THE ISSUE IS. >> OKAY. >> GO AHEAD AND SPRINKLE. >>I'M LINDA HENKEL. MY CONCERN IS ON THIS IF LOOP SEEN LANE, IF THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT, NOT COUNTY ROAD, NOT MAINTAINED BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN THE ARGUMENT LIKE FOR SIX YEARS NOW. IT PREVIOUSLY HAD GREENE COUNTY ROAD SIGNS ON IT. I MEAN, ALL THE WAY BACK TO DUSTY LANE AND THEN DOWN PEBBLE STONE. IF LOOPS, ELAINE, IF IT'S STILL AN EASEMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE PEBBLE STONE. IF IT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND YOU ALL WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT AS A NOT MAINTAIN COUNTY ROAD, THEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE IT. THEIR MAIN ENTRANCE WAS TAYLOR'S VALE WRITTEN, AND THEY CHANGED ALL THAT UP AND STARTED COMING IN OFF OF PEBBLE STONE AND REDEFINED. THEY'RE LOCKED CONFIGURATIONS PER TRACY WHEN HE WAS AT BOWMAN. THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN ABOUT WHETHER HOUSE BILL 1,117 SHOWED IT AND IT DOES IT SHOWS IT IN A LIGHT LINE GOING ON. [NOISE] FOR YEARS. IT'S NOT BEEN TAXED FOR THE PEOPLE. IT'S BEEN APPRAISAL DISTRICT OPEN WIDE AS A COUNTY ROAD. I BELIEVE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHEN MR. GABRIEL OWNED ALL OF THIS, CLAUDE HENKEL'S SURVEYED OUT THE ROAD AS A SINGLE IN I BELIEVE IT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY AT THAT POINT AS RECOGNIZED AS COUNTY ROAD. IT ALWAYS HAD A MAINTENANCE SUN AND MAINTENANCE ENDS HERE AND THEN IT WENT ON HIS COUNTY ROAD. IF IT'S NOT RECOGNIZED AS A COUNTY ROAD, WHICH I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR MS. CATHERINE FOR OVER SIX YEARS BEFORE BARBARA COMMISSIONER SHELTON, AND BEFORE AND WHEN HOBBY WAS COMMISSIONER AND TOM BOND. THEN IT WAS A BIG FIGHT OVER WHETHER IT WAS COUNTY ROAD OR NOT. EVERYBODY'S BILL GARDNER. IT'S JUST BEEN GOING ON. IT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE. CATHERINE, I STILL STAY IN TOUCH WITH HER. I CAN GET HER IN HERE ABOUT IT IF WE NEED TO, BECAUSE THE COUNTY GAVE HER A FAMILY LAND GRANT OFF OF THE COUNTY ROAD, PEBBLE STONE, COUNTY ROAD 90. [00:45:01] IT'S BEEN GOING ON AS COUNTY ROAD. THAT'S WHAT I NEED FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN. I DON'T CARE IF THEY GET AN EXTENSION, NOT WHY I'M HERE. BUT THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE LITTLE PINK MARKS ON IT. IT'S WAY BEYOND ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT IF WE'D STANDARD THEN WE HAVE TIME TO GRAPPLE WITH THIS AND DEAL WITH THIS. NOTHING IS GOING TO BE SAID TODAY. >> THE EXTENSIONS. I'LL HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DO AT THIS POINT. THANK PEBBLE STONE NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED AS TO WHETHER IT'S AND IF IT'S AN EASEMENT, THEY CAN'T USE IT. EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE OF PEBBLE STONE ON THIS SIDE WERE FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT. NOT OVER HERE. >> IF WE EXTEND IT, THEN WE CAN BRING THIS BACK AND BACK. >> THAT'S MY ONLY THING IS I WOULD LIKE THAT. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS APPROVED WHEN COMMISSIONER SHELTON HAD COVID SHE WAS NOT HERE. SHE HAD TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE PREVIOUSLY AND SAID, IF YOU GET PERMISSION FROM JOAN GABRIEL FOR PEBBLE STONE, IF IT IS AN EASEMENT AND YOU GET PERMISSION FROM HER TO USE IT, THEN I'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR SUBDIVISION. THOSE ISSUES NEED TO BE SETTLED FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT, BUT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON PEBBLE STONE AND NOW IT'S YOURS. YEAH, I WANT YOU TO TAKE A CONSIDERATION THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET A TON OF POLICY FOR THESE LOTS USING PEBBLE STONE. IF IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO. WHERE'S THE HISTORY OF THE B? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S A PROBLEM. MY PIECE WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION, BY THE WAY. >> WOULD YOU MIND FROM MAKING A COPY OF THAT SO THAT I CAN HAVE A COPY OF WHAT YOU HAVE? >> SURE. NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU. I THINK SOMEBODY HAS COPIES, BUT YEAH, I'LL MAKE NO PROBLEM. >> OR GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY HERE AND WE'LL MAKE IT? >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH WHOEVER. THERE'S A LOT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN WE GO DO A SURVEY. BILL, MOST OF YOU MAY KNOW HIM. HE'S A MASON HERE AND HE WAS A LANDOWNER. HE HAD A VETERAN'S LANDLORD TRACK BACK THERE ACROSS FROM WHERE WE GAVE CATHERINE HER FAMILY AND GRANT. VETERANS CAN OWN ANY PART OF A COUNTY ROAD. WHEN IT WASN'T EASEMENT, EVERYBODY WENT TO THE CENTER LINE. BILL BOULDER HAD TO GIVE THAT TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT COULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN HIS EIGHT ACRES THAT HE BOUGHT. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT IN THERE THAT NOBODY REALLY SEES THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO WHY IT WAS IN SHOULD STILL BE COUNTY ROAD. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MATTHEW. >> JUDGE, JUST GIVES THE AGENDA ITEM IS JUST FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE [INAUDIBLE] >> I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M WILLING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE LATITUDE BECAUSE THE CONCERN. > ARCH THAT JUST REMINDED CAREFUL. >> THANK YOU. >> MATTHEW FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, MATHEW ALLEN. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO LINDA HENKEL IS THE PLANT, DOESN'T IT SHOW WHAT A ROAD THAT IS? THERE'S A PIECE OF AN ARROW BUT IT DIDN'T SAY WHAT IT IS. BUT FOR WELL, AS OLD AS I'M, I USED TO LIVE ON THAT ROAD AND GO UP DOWN THE ROAD. THERE WAS ALWAYS A COUNTY ROAD. BUT YEAH, IT SHOULD SAY ON THE PLANT THAT IS PEBBLE STONE AS A COUNTY ROAD. BUT ONE OTHER QUESTION IS ON THE PLAN, THERE'S A DESIGNATED RIGHT-OF-WAY OF 0.65 ACRES. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT WILL BECOME COUNTY PROPERTY? >> I DON'T KNOW, MATTHEW, AND WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE DONE THE EXTENSION. IF WE DON'T DO THE EXTENSION, THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND YOU CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM WHEN THEY'VE DONE THAT. >> THERE WERE THREE NEIGHBORING OWNERS THAT WERE HAD WRONG INFORMATION ON IT. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S IT. >> WE'LL GET THOSE CORRECTED AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, HAVING HEARD WHAT MATTHEW AND LINDA SAID, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO EITHER GRANT AN EXTENSION OR NOT? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND IT. >> OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION TO GRANT THE EXTENSION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [00:50:01] >> AYE. >> OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 13, DISCUSSION ACTION TO CONSIDER [13. Discussion/Action to consider the approval of the preliminary plat for Lively Stone Addition consisting of 171 residential lots on approximately 259.98 acres located on Barth Road (CR 179) and Lively Stone Rd (CR 181). ] APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR A LIVELY STONE ADDITION CONSISTING OF 171 RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 259 ACRES, LOCATED ON BARTH ROAD AND LIVELY STONE ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 181. AND BARTH ROAD IS 179. >> THIS SUBDIVISION WAS ACTUALLY BOUGHT, BROUGHT BEFORE COMMISSIONERS COURT A FEW WEEKS AGO AND COMMISSIONER SHELTON EXPRESS CONCERNS OF NOT HAVING THE ADDITIONAL BACKUP TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT CLEARLY. THIS WAS TABLED. TRACY WAS ACTUALLY HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION AT THAT TIME. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME ROAD NAMES ON THE PLANT THAT ARE INCORRECT. I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO JACKIE AND LET HER KNOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY FINAL PLAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WAS MISSED ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. I APOLOGIZE FOR MYSELF AND FOR D SET. AT THIS TIME, I JUST AM LOOKING FOR APPROVAL. I THINK MATTHEW AND LINDA WANTED BOTH SPEAK ON THIS, BUT I AM LOOKING FOR APPROVAL. JUST THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT. >> THEN MATTHEW, LINDA, I DON'T MIND GETTING THE CORRECTIONS ON THE RECORD, BUT WE GOT TO STICK WITH THE ITEM OF APPROVAL OR NOT APPROVAL. >> OKAY. >> I'M MATHEW ALLEN FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. YES, I INITIALLY STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AFTER THE CORRECTED. THIS ONE WAS ONLY YOU COULD ACTUALLY READ THE PLAQUE. THERE WERE MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH ROAD NAMES AND WHEN I CONTACTED THE 911 COORDINATOR JACQUELINE, SHE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS ADD VISION BEFORE. I THOUGHT THE PROCESS WAS NORMALLY DEVELOPERS WOULD GET ROAD NAME APPROVALS IF IT DIDN'T WANT HIM LIKE A DUPLICATE NAME, INCONSISTENT WITH 911 STANDARD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT SHE HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS EVEN EXISTING. >> PROBABLY TRUE, SINCE IT WAS PRELIMINARY PLAT. BUT BEFORE A FINAL PLAT, SHE WOULD BE MADE AWARE OF IT AND MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS. >> BUT MOST OF THE TIME, A LOT OF MANY OF THE DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERS WILL CONTACT HER BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO GET A LIST OF ROAD NAMES THAT ARE APPROVED OR SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT TO CHANGE IT TO, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS AS CLOSE TO CORRECT THE SCAN. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S A NEEDLESS SENSE OF TIME TO MAKE APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT WITH TONS OF MISTAKES ON IT. >> IT CAN GET CORRECTED BEFORE OR AFTER. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO CORRECT IT. >> I KNOW THAT. >> IT HAS TO GET APPROVED AS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE WASTE OF TIME COMES IN. >> BUT MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS DO CONTACT BEFORE IT EVER BECOMES A COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SEE IF THE ROAD NAMES ARE LEGITIMATE. LIKE IN LOT OF CASES, THESE WERE DUPLICATING NAMES OF SIMILAR SOUNDING NAMES NEARBY, WHICH WOULD BE CONFUSING TO 911 OR EMERGENCY RESPONSE. LIKE THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT IS MORNING MISS? THEY CHANGED THE NAME AS OBVIOUSLY THE SAME ROAD. THEY JUST EXTENDED IT. THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING. IF A HOUSE ON FIRE, YOU GO OUT TO SEE THE FIRE. BUT IF YOU HAVE THE EMS COME IN AND THEY WILL BE CONFUSED HOW TO GET THERE. THERE COULD BE A PROBLEM. >> I AGREE. BUT THERE'S ALSO THE XGM AND 911 NOW. THEY'RE DISPATCHED ON LANGFORD. >> OKAY THE ONLY ONE OTHER THING OR TWO THINGS IS WHERE IT TOUCHES LOVELY STONE ROAD. LOVELY STONE ROAD IS THE OFFICIAL ROAD NAME. IT SHOULD BE BOLDED AND HIGHLIGHTED FIRST AND THEN SAY ALSO KNOWN AS COUNTY ROAD NUMBER, WHATEVER IT IS. >> I'M FINE WITH ALL THIS, MATTHEW. BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD DO THIS ALSO BEFORE WE COME TO COURT SO THAT THE STAFF CAN MAKE THE CORRECT LIST.[OVERLAPPING] >> ME TOO. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR 15 YEARS. >> BUT THIS GETS POSTED ON THURSDAY SO AT LEAST FRIDAY AND MONDAY TO REVIEW IT AND CALL CASEY'S OFFICE AND TELL HER THERE ARE ISSUES. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED TO TUESDAY'S IN THE FIRST PLACE [LAUGHTER] LET'S ALLOW THAT EXTRA DAY TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES. >> OKAY. >> GO AHEAD. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, SIR. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. LINDA. [00:55:05] >> I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MATTHEW AND 911 LOOK AT THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAD AN INCIDENT IN GUADALUPE COUNTY WHERE TWO ROADS GOT NAMED THE SAME THING, HAD THE SAME STREET ADDRESSES. MAN DIED IN GUADALUPE COUNTY AND HE GOT SUED FOR SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. [OVERLAPPING] WE CAN'T TALK TO YOU ALL BECAUSE IT'S A QUORUM IF WE DON'T COME TO SPEAK. I CAN SEND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL A MEMO. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU CAN. BUT WE CAN ALSO MAKE AN ITEM TO DISCUSS ISSUES AT LARGE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER COUNTIES, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OTHER CITIES AND SO WE HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION. WE COULD DO IT IN A WORKSHOP. BUT IT'S NOT MY RULE, BUT I HAVE TO KEEP IT TO THE ITEM AS MUCH AS I CAN. [OVERLAPPING] >> I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. THIS IS TO THE ADAM THOUGH. YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT. [OVERLAPPING] THE FACT THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE PROPERLY KEEPS FROM HAVING DELAYS. [OVERLAPPING] >> HOW LONG HAVE WE KNOWN ABOUT THESE ISSUES? >> I THINK HE JUST GOT NOTIFIED. WHAT? LAST WEEK? [BACKGROUND] THURSDAY WHEN IT CAME ON THE AGENDA. [OVERLAPPING] THE ONLY TIME HE SAW IT. >> OR ANY CALLS MADE THE CASE. HE'S OFFICER JACKIE OFFICE TO MAKE HIM AWARE OF IT. >> I'M HERE BACKING HIM UP. HE'S ASKED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET THESE SENT OVER TO HIM WHEN THEY COME TO HER FOR PRELIMINARY SO HE CAN HELP LOOK HIM OVER. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S AN ISSUE. >> IT'S NOT FOR ME. >> WELL, IT EVIDENTLY IS FOR TRACY BRETT OR WHOEVER BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS JUST AREN'T GETTING DONE PROPERLY. >> BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THOUGH, IF WE SIT ON FRIDAY [OVERLAPPING] OR I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE IT AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ROAD NAMES. >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU KNOW ABOUT IT FRIDAY OR MONDAY TO NOTIFY STAFF. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH IT IS I CAN'T CONTACT EACH ONE OF YOU SO THEN THIS ONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IS THIS PERSON KNOWS. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU CAN CONTACT STAFF. [OVERLAPPING] JACQUELINE OR CASEY. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CASEY? >> YEAH. OR JACQUELINE, IF SHE'S NOT AWARE. >> BUT IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET TO LOOK AT IT UNTIL THURSDAY THEN IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA TUESDAY. IT'S HARD TO CONTACT THE STAFF ABOUT IT. >> IT'S NOT, I CONTACT THEM ALL THE TIME IF I SEE SOMEHOW. >> BUT IT IS AN ISSUE AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SO THAT THE NEXT TIME IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO REQUEST TO BE ON THE AGENDA. >> OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I'LL PASS IT THROUGH FOR YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LIVELY STONE ADDITION, CONSISTING OF 171 RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 259.98 ACRES LOCATED ON PARK ROW. DO WE HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL? >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [OVERLAPPING] AYE. >> OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. [14. Discussion only of the GLO infrastructure grant roads. ] >> ADAM 14 DISCUSSION ONLY OF THE GLO INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PRICE. DENNIS. >> YES. THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONER. WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF COMPLETING THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE GLO TO DO SOME REHABILITATION, LOW-WATER CROSSING ON FOUR PARTICULAR ROADS. BLACK ANKLE POLITICAL ROAD, WEATHER ROAD WHICH ARE NOT COMPLETE AND WE'RE ABOUT TO COMPLETE BIGGS ROAD. IN JUST A MOMENT, DAVID WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE COMPLETION OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THE LAST OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO MEET WITH THE COURT. WE HAD A PAPER AUDIT CONDUCTED BY THE GLO A FEW WEEKS AGO. HAD FIVE GLO PERSONNEL HERE IN OUR OFFICE, WENT THROUGH OUR FILES DEALING WITH THAT GRANT, WAS 1.4 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR GRANT. THERE WERE LIKE NOT 80 ITEMS OF DOCUMENTATION WE HAD TO PRESENT TO THEM AND AFTER ABOUT A THREE-HOUR AUDIT, THERE WERE ONLY FIVE ITEMS THAT WE JUST NEEDED TO FOLLOW UP WITH AND GIVE THEM THAT. IT WAS A GOOD AUDIT AND THEY HAD GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT OUR RECORD-KEEPING. I ALSO WANT TO CREDIT THE FACT THAT LANGFORD COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, OUR CONSULTANT HELPED TREMENDOUSLY WITH THAT AT THAT EFFORT. BUT I'LL ASK DAVID WITH US HERE TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF BIG DROVE AND KEEP IN MIND, WE ARE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION ON THAT ROAD PLUS ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAYMENTS TO THE CONTRACTORS AND SO FORTH. [01:00:03] THROUGH THE LATEST EXTENSION THAT WE GOT WHICH BRINGS THAT DATE TO THE END OF FEBRUARY. >> MORNING JUDGE AND MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD TO SEE SOME NEW FACES. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. MY NAME IS DAVID CLARK, MATTHEW SAID ENGINEERS. WE'RE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT ON THE CDBG GRANTS PROJECTS. I SPOKE WITH DEBBIE JC THIS MORNING AND ASK ABOUT STATUS OUT OF BIGGS ROAD. THE TARGET WAS TO MAKE BIGGS ROAD PASSABLE, NOT COMPLETE BUT PASSABLE BY THE CHRISTMAS BREAK. OBVIOUSLY, WE DIDN'T HIT THAT GOAL. AS A LITTLE BIT OF WHETHER AT THE END OF DECEMBER THAT STACKED A LOT OF WATER UP, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO PUMP THAT OUT WITH THE LITTLE BIT OF DRIZZLE WE WERE GETTING THROUGH. THAT'S THE REASON IT WASN'T OPEN AT THAT TIME. CREWS WILL BE ONSITE STARTING TOMORROW TO COMPLETE BACK FILL OF THE BOX CULVERT STRUCTURE. NEXT WEEK THEY WILL SLATE IT TO INSTALL RIP RAP AND GUARD RAIL. AS SOON AS THAT SAME THEY'LL HAVE PAVING RIGHT BEHIND IT. I DID HAVE A VERBAL COMMITMENT FROM WJC THAT WITHIN TWO TO TWO-AND-A-HALF WEEKS, THAT SITE SHOULD BE COMPLETE AND READY FOR A FINAL WALK-THROUGH. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLOSE ALL CONSTRUCTION AND TO GET ASH BUILTS ISSUED BY THE END OF JANUARY AND WE WILL BE PROCESSING THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR THE BIGGS ROAD SITE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WELL. LOOKING LIKE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF JANUARY AND AS SIR DENNIS MENTIONED, ADMINISTRATIVE CLOSE OUT BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, [BACKGROUND] QUESTIONS? >> DENNIS, [NOISE] I KNOW THAT THE THREE OTHER BRIDGES HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A WHILE. WILL THERE BE ANY EVENT OR ANNOUNCEMENT OR ANYTHING RELATING TO THE COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT AND THEN GRANT WILL BE PUTTING THOSE FACILITIES? >> SPECIFICALLY WITH BIGGS ROAD, ONCE THAT ROAD HAS BEEN COMPLETELY FINISHED AND READY TO REOPEN, THE ACTIVITY THAT I THINK IS OUR NEXT RESPONSIBILITY IS TO NOTIFY ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS. FIRST RESPONDERS, THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD TO REROUTE BUSES AND SO FORTH, IS TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT ROAD IS NOW OPEN AND READY FOR ROUTINE TRAFFIC. AS FAR AS ANY OTHER PARTICULAR ANNOUNCEMENT, WE MAY WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, GET WORD OUT THAT ALL FOUR ROADS ARE NOW OPEN AND PROJECT'S COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY, ETC. NOTHING'S IN CONCRETE RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER, ON THAT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, DAVID. I JUST WANT TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. THE WARRANTY PERIOD FOR THE THREE PRIOR COMPLETED, HAS THAT BEGUN ALREADY FOR THAT PERIOD? [OVERLAPPING] >> YES. >> IF THAT HAS THEN IN BIGGS WILL HAVE ITS OWN SEPARATE WARRANTY PERIOD AFTER THAT? >> CORRECT. THE THREE PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME WARRANTY PERIOD. WE LUMPED IN WITH THE AS-BUILT ACCEPTANCE. THIS WILL HAVE A SEPARATE PERIOD THAT'LL BEGIN LIKELY AS PART OF FEBRUARY. >> OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT. [OVERLAPPING] THE DISCUSSION ON ITEM SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 15. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> MOVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> [OVERLAPPING] AYE. >> HEARING NONE, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:03. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.