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[A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER ]

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OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF CALDWELL COUNTY, TEXAS, ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2024 AT 10:11.

COMMISSIONERS, I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO WAIVE THE INVOCATION PLEDGE AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO SO BY COMMISSIONER THOMAS AND A SECOND, SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OPPOSE HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES. ITEM E CITIZENS COMMENTS.

NO CITIZENS COMMENTS.

OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE EVIDENTIARY HEARING.

THESE WILL BE FOR ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE INDIVIDUALS.

THAT'S A HEARING OF APPEAL IN REGARDS TO THE CALDWELL COUNTY UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACT RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COST DETERMINATION.

WE'LL TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.

[F.1 Hearing of appeal in regards to Caldwell County's Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act (URA) Residency and Associated Cost Determination to claimant Joe Johnson. ]

ITEM F1.

HEARING OF APPEAL IN REGARDS TO CALDWELL COUNTY'S UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACT URA RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COSTS DETERMINED TO CLAIMANT JOE JOHNSON.

IS MR. JOHNSON PRESENT.

NO. OKAY.

WE'LL GO TO ITEM F 2.

[F.2 Hearing of appeal in regards to Caldwell County's Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act (URA) Residency and Associated Cost Determination to claimant Issac Perez. ]

HEARING AN APPEAL IN REGARDS TO CALDWELL COUNTY'S UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACT, URA RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COSTS DETERMINATION TO CLAIMANT ISAAC PEREZ.

IS MR. PEREZ HERE? NO. OKAY.

[F.3 Hearing of appeal in regards to Caldwell County's Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act (URA) Residency and Associated Cost Determination to claimant Madison Look. ]

WE WILL GO TO ITEM F 3.

HEARING AND APPEAL.

IN REGARDS TO CALDWELL COUNTY'S UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACT, URA RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COST DETERMINATION TO CLAIMANT MADISON LOOK.

IS MS. LOOK HERE.

COME TO THE FRONT. PLEASE, MA'AM.

AND THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DETERMINATIONS TODAY.

I DO HAVE TO PUT YOU UNDER OATH, AND I.

I. STATE YOUR NAME.

MADISON LOOK.

DO SOLEMNLY, SINCERELY, AND TRULY DECLARE AND AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY I'M ABOUT TO GIVE TO THIS COURT WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

I DO. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. SO MY NAME IS MADISON LOOK.

I MOVED TO TEXAS WHEN I WAS 18.

I LIVED AT THE AIRPORT IN MY OWN CAMPER.

MY PARENTS LIVED IN THEIR OWN RV.

I MOVED TO ARIZONA FOR SCHOOL, AND I HONESTLY WANTED TO DROP OUT AND MOVE BACK HOME.

AND I FOUND OUT THAT THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN FOR A PROJECT.

I ENDED UP STAYING.

I WAS ABLE TO FINISH MY DEGREE.

I BOUGHT MY OWN PLACE, AND I ENDED UP WORKING WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY THAT HELPED BUILD HOMES.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER OUR APPEAL TODAY.

THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU.

RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LOOK? DO YOU HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND THE I JUST HAVE MY APPEAL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION WITH ME TODAY.

DO YOU. CAN YOU SUPPORT IT HOW MUCH ARE YOU ASKING FOR? I'M ASKING FOR WHAT THE URA ACT ALLOWS.

THAT'S THE $5,225, I BELIEVE.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IT SPECIFIES THAT? OH, MY DAD WOULD KNOW.

SO YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW METHODS IN THERE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH ANYTHING EVIDENCE . I DID HAVE TO ABANDON MY CAMPER.

I COULDN'T AFFORD TO MOVE IT.

BUT I DON'T HAVE, LIKE, CONCRETE DOCUMENTATION OF THAT.

I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TODAY, BUT MY DAD DOES HAVE MORE INFORMATION, SO.

OKAY, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE ON AND GO TO MR.

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LOOK NEXT. YEAH.

AM I ABLE TO BE SEATED? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

[F.4 Hearing of appeal in regards to Caldwell County's Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act (URA) Residency and Associated Cost Determination to claimant Steve Look. ]

ITEM F 4 HEARING AN APPEAL IN REGARDS TO CALDWELL COUNTY UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION URA RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COST DETERMINATION TO CLAIMANT STEVE LOOK.

MR. LOOK ARE YOU HERE TODAY? YES. COME ON UP TO THE FRONT, PLEASE, AND I'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I. I STEVE.

STATE YOUR NAME. STEVEN LOOK.

DO SOLEMNLY AND DO SOLEMNLY, SINCERELY AND TRULY DECLARE AND AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY I'M ABOUT TO GIVE TO THIS COURT WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. I DO.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. LOOK.

GO AHEAD. I WAS A PILOT AT THE DROP ZONE THE WHICH ENDED UP GETTING CLOSED BECAUSE OF WHAT THE COUNTY HAD DECIDED TO DO.

WE EXPERIENCED VERY SEVERE FINANCIAL TRAUMA BECAUSE OF WHAT OCCURRED.

WE'VE ONLY BEEN ASKING THAT YOU WOULD FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW AND PAY US WHAT YOU OWE US.

WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

I'VE SENT EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED, TO SIT HERE AND ASK US NOW TO PRESENT DOCUMENTATION.

THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S WAY BEHIND THE BALL.

THIS IS THE PROCEDURE THAT HUD HAS SET BEFORE US.

SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS PROCEDURE, SIR.

OH, WELL, THE PROCEDURE WAS TO BE SENDING YOU INFORMATION IN THE WHOLE TIME.

WE JUMPED THROUGH EVERY SINGLE HOOP THAT YOU HAVE ASKED US TO JUMP THROUGH.

AND TO BE FRANK, MANY PEOPLE HAVE FALLEN OUT.

MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THIS GROUP ARE NO LONGER ARE NO LONGER EVEN ASKING YOU BECAUSE THEY'VE.

MR. LOOK, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THIS IS AN EVIDENTIARY HEARING OF APPEAL TO TO WHAT WAS DETERMINED BY HUD ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.

SO YOU CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE TO.

THE EVIDENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED HERE, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU.

[F.5 Hearing of appeal in regards to Caldwell County's Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act (URA) Residency and Associated Cost Determination to claimant Teresa Look. ]

ITEM F 5 HEARING AN APPEAL IN REGARDS TO CALDWELL COUNTY'S UNIFORM RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND REAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACT.

URA RESIDENCY AND ASSOCIATED COSTS DETERMINED TO TERESA LOOK.

MISS LOOK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND PRESENT ANY EVIDENCE? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE, AND I.

I AND STATE YOUR NAME.

TERESA LOOK. DO SOLEMNLY, SINCERELY, AND TRULY DECLARE AND AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY I'M ABOUT TO GIVE TO THIS COURT WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

I DO YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. MISS LOOK.

WE'VE BEEN BATTLING THIS AGAINST THE CALDWELL COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, THEY CLOSED US DOWN.

THE OWNER OF THE DROP ZONE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF SITUATIONS WITH THIS NEW EVACUATION CENTER THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

THEY CLOSED IT DOWN.

THE COPS CAME DOWN AND SHUT OFF.

SHUT OFF? I WORKED FROM HOME.

THEY SHUT DOWN OUR ELECTRICITY, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL HAD TIME TO GET OUT AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG.

I LIVE HERE IN CALDWELL COUNTY.

AND THEN DURING THE TIME MISS LOOK, WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO PRESENT EVIDENCE TO APPEAL.

OKAY I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WELL, EVERYTHING MY HUSBAND SAID IS THE TRUTH.

WE'VE GIVEN JUMP THROUGH HOOPS.

YOU HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE, AND WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING OVER AND OVER AND KEEP GIVING YOU STUFF, AND IT'S GOT TO COME TO AN END PRETTY SOON.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR EVIDENCE.

RIGHT? TO APPEAL THE DECISION.

YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE EVIDENCE IN YOUR PAPERWORK.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE HAVE NO NOBODY ELSE.

SO AND NO, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK TO ADJOURN THIS EVIDENTIARY HEARING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COMMISSIONER WESTMORELAND.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HORNE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:20.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.